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VN Ren'Py Not Going Back [Ch.2.2] [Cicada]

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Dessolos

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Cautiously liked it so far - has a dark feel to it like the rich assholes are going to get out of hand - hope not don;t want to see any forced sex on any girl, nor the sick shower scene, it is really stupid to think we are going to create sluts out of our women to please the rich.
Mia is great she embelishes all the right things. Not sure I agree to the underwear event but at least most kept them on.
Also if someone makes mia or whomever their girl then would not want her to be involved in such debauchery
im curious what sick shower scene? are you talking about the one with Mia? otherwise I forgot. I really didn't see any issue with that one since it was player choice. Sure it made Mia feel a bit easy at first but didn't feel bad either since it felt like she actually liked the MC for who he was. Even tho it didn't lead to anything but touching her boob ive seen much worst from girls in other games that are actually slutty.
 
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Cautiously liked it so far - has a dark feel to it like the rich assholes are going to get out of hand - hope not don;t want to see any forced sex on any girl, nor the sick shower scene, it is really stupid to think we are going to create sluts out of our women to please the rich.
Mia is great she embelishes all the right things. Not sure I agree to the underwear event but at least most kept them on.
Also if someone makes mia or whomever their girl then would not want her to be involved in such debauchery
icadaNGB already stated - nobody will be forced on you romantically, everything only by your choice.

Calling it "Debauchery"would be too harsh, but that's my perspective.
Well there is at least one nerd-ish girl, Alice, I doubt she will participate in this "Debauchery", not her vibe.
 
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Dessolos

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To call it "Debauchery"would be too harsh, but that's my perspective.
100% agree with you on that, I dont see anything they have done as Debauchery or too slutty yet. Other than maybe Bobbie 's outfit. But not surprised either by his response he has overly harsh views on tattoo's too if I recall correctly. Was more confused when he called the shower scene sick haha. Only recall the Mia one and didn't see anything wrong with that one
 

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icadaNGB already stated - nobody will be forced on you romantically, everything only by your choice.

To call it "Debauchery"would be too harsh, but that's my perspective.
Well there is at least one nerd-ish girl, Alice, I doubt she will participate in this "Debauchery", not her vibe.
She totally freaked when MC saw her topless. She's definitely not the debauchery type.
 

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Want to comment a bit more of some things people have said but there's some quite detailed comments and I've not got the time atm to give a good reply to everything, but I will real quick say on the subject of animations: I tried playing around with making them while making ch2, but quickly realised I wasn't able to make them to an acceptable standard, and it would have taken too long to improve. Also, as people probably know already from other games, animations take a really long time to render, because for just one second you're looking realistically at 30 individual renders, so from the standpoint I couldn't justify adding animations when I currently only have one computer to do everything with. Would like to include them in the future, of course, but for now I decided it would be better to stick to just renders rather than adding in poorly made/rushed animations. Felt like that was a better decision both for overall quality and use of time
I think that's a very good decision.
I like good animations, like most do, but as you said they are a huge amount of work and none likes clunky, bad animations. The sex scenes in the update were good imo.

Just please for all that's holy don't do nonsense as 60fps animations...
 
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Dessolos

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I think that's a very good decision.
I like good animations, like most do, but as you said they are a huge amount of work and none likes clunky, bad animations. The sex scenes in the update were good imo.

Just please for all that's holy don't do nonsese as 60fps animations...
100% agree tho I will say I have a hard time noticing bad animations unless they are really bad and obvious. Probably cause im a visual person and need to compare it to something not sure. All i know there been times I seen some complain about certain animations but I didn't notice it being bad haha.

But I will say the fact this dev can make some pretty hot sex scene renders that makes me wish there was animations is a really good sign that this game doesn't need the animations. Besides sex scenes are usually such a small part of any game not really like we miss much by not having them.
 
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Dessolos

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Yeah, that's why I suggested her to that guy as a LI since he is too pure for all other LIs :rolleyes:
I think Bonnie and Ellie might be somewhat pure too at least I get that vibe too from them. But yeah I don't think they compare to Alice. As they dont really seem like they are in a sorority to party and let lose but just to be in one that is chill.
 

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I think Bonnie and Ellie might be somewhat pure too at least I get that vibe too from them. But yeah I don't think they compare to Alice. As they dont really seem like they are in a sorority to party and let lose but just to be in one that is chill.
It wasn't too difficult to get a nude out of Ellie though. Alice would never, and I doubt Bonnie would either.
 
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It wasn't too difficult to get a nude out of Ellie though. Alice would never, and I doubt Bonnie would either.
o right scratch that about Ellie I 100% forgot about that tho she still seems more reserved than most of the other LI, just perhaps less than Bonnie and Alice. Cause if I recall it wasn't immediate but something she thought about and only if you promised not to show anyone. While the other girls wouldn't probably like you showing their nudes probably wouldn't be upset for long either expect maybe Mia.
 
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It wasn't too difficult to get a nude out of Ellie though. Alice would never, and I doubt Bonnie would either.
well, to be more precise - Ellie hesitated, I don't remember but I think I chose "Let her decide" or smth and she sent nude later a bit, can't say anyhing about Bonnie though, will pay more attention while playing again

IIRC I didn't even have to ask Mia, she just offered, so did Lucy & Bobbie. I actually though it was funny that Tegan sent the least revealing one of all. :ROFLMAO:
I think Tegan genuinely likes MC and she didn't want to scare him away;), at least this vibe I get from her behaviour in general - like when she suddenly acts all shy and embarrassed around MC, especially when other girls start joking around
 
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o right scratch that about Ellie I 100% forgot about that tho she still seems more reserved than most of the other LI, just perhaps less than Bonnie and Alice. Cause if I recall it wasn't immediate but something she thought about and only if you promised not to show anyone. While the other girls wouldn't probably like you showing their nudes probably wouldn't be upset for long either expect maybe Mia.
IIRC I didn't even have to ask Mia, she just offered, so did Lucy & Bobbie. I actually though it was funny that Tegan sent the least revealing one of all. :ROFLMAO:
 

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IIRC I didn't even have to ask Mia, she just offered, so did Lucy & Bobbie. I actually though it was funny that Tegan sent the least revealing one of all. :ROFLMAO:
yeah Mia offered however this might just be my feeling towards her . While she does come off as a bit slutty to some I really don't think so at least not on the same level as Tegan or Bobbie. I get the feeling it is because she actually likes the MC not just cause he is hot and wants that dick but if you tell her your past where she feels bad for you and hugs you , I felt like she started to have a genuine like for the MC as a person. Also this last part is 100% me reading to much into it but I feel like the fact there is a hand holding scene ( tho it was the MC that initiated it) to me kind of shows or symbolizes her character and path gonna be more of a a romance then her being a bit easy haha ( even tho she is).
 

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im curious what sick shower scene? are you talking about the one with Mia? otherwise I forgot. I really didn't see any issue with that one since it was player choice. Sure it made Mia feel a bit easy at first but didn't feel bad either since it felt like she actually liked the MC for who he was. Even tho it didn't lead to anything but touching her boob ive seen much worst from girls in other games that are actually slutty.
The common shower is not a desireable thing for young women to have to go through and should not be portrayed in this or any other story. Men obviouslt like it but sorry that still does not make it right
 

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So after seeing the 2 lewd scenes I missed on my first playthrough im 100% gonna make a save where my MC is a bit of an asshole now. I didn't pick any of the rude / asshole remarks or hide the truth about his past on my first playthrough. As those 2 lewd scenes I missed kind of feels like the MC is leaning towards that way considering who he does sleep with and how it seems to cause some issues with 1 character.
 

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Just finished this game, will post a review later but wanted to post some of my thoughts.

First I will say I loved this game not sure where id rank it just yet but in the higher side of my list can see it making it's way into my top 10.

This game gave me a BAD feel but more serious and toned down which I really liked. I really can't wait to learn more about the MC's past and some of the other characters as well. Also I found the characters that did get some love are really good so far. While there are others I liked but need to see more. I really like how this game it doesn't feel like you are stuck with the same characters but a bit of everyone to actually make it seem like the world is alive and other people exist beyond the MC and his potential LI.

My only real criticism so far isn't that there is alot of characters but there are some that is hard to tell if they are a Main Girl , Side Girl , or just a background characters. For example I read Rachael isn't a Main Girl yet she didn't give me side girl vibe either. I assumed she was a main girl from what little ive seen of her so far. Tho this criticism is probably because this game is only on it's second chapter and the game needs more time for them to be made clear.

Also is there an official list of who is and who isn't a Main girl a bit hesitant to make to many saves right now until I know who is what. I can guess a few that will be save bets and a few im a bit unsure of.

Speaking about the girls I typically not big on LI that are easy to sleep with or this quickly in a game unless it's a harem or something. Yet with all the interactions or character deveolopment we have gotten so far I didn't mind one bit in this game. As the sex scenes felt like they came on pretty naturally and not because they are glued to the MC's dick. As it felt like the LI that did sleep with him had a genuine like of the MC because of who is and his character and not because of the MC. If a game is gonna have early lewd scenes that isn't with a side girl hell even if they are with a side girl this is the way to do it. As I was already invested or liked their character where the lewds were welcomed even if I would personally like to take things a bit slower haha.

Also the sex scenes were great especially for a game that has no animations. As I felt the renders showed some hot looking renders ( tho a few times I wish there was an animation cause it was really hot to look at haha). Then within the sex scene could feel a bit of character deveolopment , character or personality which is something that was a surprise for sure. Like during Mia's sex scene she was hesitant to give a blowjob like it freaked her out or something. It's clear to me she has some kind of trauma I can't wait to learn about.

Speaking of trauma , I really loved how there are some characters with some issues or trauma but they come across in a way that makes them a bit interesting. The crazy thing is we haven't even scratched the surface with alot of other characters yet so I can't wait to see what we find out.

lol this ended up being alot longer than I thought and still isn't my full review for when I actually post it.

Now here is what I think of the girls so far

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Finally got the time to properly read through this comment. Firstly, thanks for playing and leaving such a detailed comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

BaD was definitely an inspiration. It was one of the first AVNs I played back towards the end of 2021. I do worry sometimes that some elements of my game are going to lean too heavily on that inspiration, but I'm hoping that people won't just end up seeing this as a knock-off or whatever. At the end of the day a college game is a college game so there's bound to be similarities somewhere. BaD is also more comedy focused than I'm making this game (not that BaD doesn't have serious moments too, of course), so your comment that this is kinda like a toned down version is pretty accurate.

The character and world building was something I prioritized for the first two chapters in particular because as I've said before I wanted the game to feel fairly real. I also wanted the player to realize that the characters have their own lives and goals they're getting on with, and that while the MC is the main character, he's the main character of his own life, not everyone's else's. I felt like that was necessary to create a compelling story. I feel like it's hard to care about a character that feels one-dimensional.

This in part causes the confusion between main and side LIs. As you say, as the game goes on the main LIs will become more prominent, but I did also want to obfuscate this deliberately a bit to make player choices mean more. I would like, at least on a first playthrough, the player to just be making the choices they would make, without thinking about the importance of a character. Just take the information given, make the decision they want to make, and see what happens. For similar reasons, the player only really knows what the MC knows. I'm not cutting away to other character's conversations where the MC is not present. I'm deliberately withholding some information, or giving it through possibly unreliable sources (i.e. other characters), so that the player doesn't know everything.

I like to think that I've done a good job of not making the sex scenes feel to rushed or out of nowhere. Now, the game is set in college, after all, so in future chapters there may be a bit more spontaneity but I am focused on making the relationships feel genuine.

On the trauma/issues bit, like you mentioned before, the game in parts leans towards being a bit more serious than maybe some college-setting games do, and of course the MC himself is clearly working through some stuff. So without spoiling anything I'll say that this is a prevalent theme throughout the game. Not every character will have like a major issue, though, it's worth saying.

Thanks again for the comment, was very interesting to read through, particularly about specific girls. I always enjoy seeing what people think about certain characters so far. And have also just seen your review as I finish this, thank you for that as well
 

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So after seeing the 2 lewd scenes I missed on my first playthrough im 100% gonna make a save where my MC is a bit of an asshole now. I didn't pick any of the rude / asshole remarks or hide the truth about his past on my first playthrough. As those 2 lewd scenes I missed kind of feels like the MC is leaning towards that way considering who he does sleep with and how it seems to cause some issues with 1 character.
Which one you mean, the Chloe one ?
Because in that one he doesn't come over as asshole imo.
 
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