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Raziel_8

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This in part causes the confusion between main and side LIs. As you say, as the game goes on the main LIs will become more prominent, but I did also want to obfuscate this deliberately a bit to make player choices mean more.
How do you plan to handle side girls ?
I mean, they are of course different from girl to girl, less important, less content etc. But more as fuck buddies only or will a couple of them have some kind path were you can have a ending with ?
 

Dessolos

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Which one you mean, the Chloe one ?
Because in that one he doesn't come over as asshole imo.
Yeah idk I felt like an asshole after not during the lewd scene with her because I either forgot or had no idea Nathan liked her. While I would of still done it to see the scene just to see it as it wasn't my main save. The scene where Nathan is upset and Chole is ashamed of what she did and giving the MC the cold shoulder and avoiding him took me as a surprise and made me feel like I fucked up and I am a bit of an asshole on that save for going along with it.

Edit: Granted the MC wasn't really being an asshole but I get that feeling from it so it's perfect for an asshole save I think
 
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Yeah idk I felt like an asshole after not during the lewd scene with her because I either forgot or had no idea Nathan liked her. While I would of still done it to see the scene just to see it as it wasn't my main save. The scene where Nathan is upset and Chole is ashamed of what she did and giving the MC the cold shoulder and avoiding him took me as a surprise and made me feel like I fucked up and I am a bit of an asshole on that save for going along with it.

Edit: Granted the MC wasn't really being an asshole but I get the feeling from it so it's perfect for an asshole save I think
I found both of their reactions pretty amusing to be honest.
For one, i don't considere Nathan a friend. Then the MC was pretty drunk after that drinking challenge before.
The more important reason was, as Chloe came onto the MC i asked the fuck she's doing, than i asked again what about Nathan, as she pretty much said 'fuck Nathan', i just thaught the guy fucked up somewhen and didn't really care.

Chloe reaction of avoiding the MC and giving him the cold shoulder i find kinda a strange reaction (the giving him the cold shoulder part), as if he did something wrong/fucked up, not her...
Nathan's i found to be a mix of pure hypocrisy, as well as ironie and had to laugh.
Like the guy was totaly ready to fuck some girl for the hazing, or did, if you rejected the challenge. And as the MC pointed that out the answer you got was 'who cares, nobody would have cared, just some fuck'.
Not sure if Chloe would have thought the same, or his reaction if Chloe fucked someone for the hazing.
Ironie because the 'who cares, just some fuck' was excatly my thoughts as i agreed to fuck Chloe and what would i have answerd him :LOL:
 

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I found both of their reactions pretty amusing to be honest.
For one, i don't considere Nathan a friend. Then the MC was pretty drunk after that drinking challenge before.
The more important reason was, as Chloe came onto the MC i asked the fuck she's doing, than i asked again what about Nathan, as she pretty much said 'fuck Nathan', i just thaught the guy fucked up somewhen and didn't really care.

Chloe reaction of avoiding the MC and giving him the cold shoulder i find kinda a strange reaction (the giving him the cold shoulder part), as if he did something wrong/fucked up, not her...
Nathan's i found to be a mix of pure hypocrisy, as well as ironie and had to laugh.
Like the guy was totaly ready to fuck some girl for the hazing, or did, if you rejected the challenge. And as the MC pointed that out the answer you got was 'who cares, nobody would have cared, just some fuck'.
Not sure if Chloe would have thought the same, or his reaction if Chloe fucked someone for the hazing.
Ironie because the 'who cares, just some fuck' was excatly my thoughts as i agreed to fuck Chloe and what would i have answerd him :LOL:
yeah I agree with what you said just the aftermath was what gave me that asshole vibe not that the MC really was one or anything cause what you said is correct. Then I doubled down and fucked Benji's sister, since that was the other scene I missed haha.
 

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How do you plan to handle side girls ?
I mean, they are of course different from girl to girl, less important, less content etc. But more as fuck buddies only or will a couple of them have some kind path were you can have a ending with ?
There won't be endings with side girls. That's the big difference between main and side LIs here. Main LIs will have actual relationships and paths to the end, side LIs won't have established relationships. Some will have more than one scene, though, but more will be one-off flings if you want to just fuck around. There will be a 'solo' path, too, for if you don't like (or mess up with) every main LI, or for if you just want to fuck around with side girls the whole time
 

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yeah I agree with what you said just the aftermath was what gave me that asshole vibe not that the MC really was one or anything cause what you said is correct. Then I doubled down and fucked Benji's sister, since that was the other scene I missed haha.
I will keep the fucked Chloe in my main run and see it more as not my problem thing...maybe buy some popcorn and watch the show :whistle:
Well, Benji is kinda fine with you fucking his sister...but then, he's kinda mentally challenged, eh, as long he's happy :LOL:
I did the scene, but honestly i don't find his sister attractive, or cared about her, overall the weakest sex scene imo.

There won't be endings with side girls. That's the big difference between main and side LIs here. Main LIs will have actual relationships and paths to the end, side LIs won't have established relationships. Some will have more than one scene, though, but more will be one-off flings if you want to just fuck around. There will be a 'solo' path, too, for if you don't like (or mess up with) every main LI, or for if you just want to fuck around with side girls the whole time
Kinda sad, i didn't expect them anywhere cose to the main ones, but Lucy or Rain, maybe Molly would have been interesting, even if it was just some sub route.
But than it would likely increase your workload by a lot, so kinda understandable.
 

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I will keep the fucked Chloe in my main run and see it more as not my problem thing...maybe buy some popcorn and watch the show :whistle:
Well, Benji is kinda fine with you fucking his sister...but then, he's kinda mentally challenged, eh, as long he's happy :LOL:
I did the scene, but honestly i don't find his sister attractive, or cared about her, overall the weakest sex scene imo.


Kinda sad, i didn't expect them anywhere cose to the main ones, but Lucy or Rain, maybe Molly would have been interesting, even if it was just some sub route.
But than it would likely increase your workload by a lot, so kinda understandable.
The side girls will still have varying importance to the story and get a decent amount of screen time. Just like how Rachael and Chloe have gotten more screen time so far than some main LIs, other side girls will get some focus here and there
 
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I will keep the fucked Chloe in my main run and see it more as not my problem thing...maybe buy some popcorn and watch the show :whistle:
Well, Benji is kinda fine with you fucking his sister...but then, he's kinda mentally challenged, eh, as long he's happy :LOL:
I did the scene, but honestly i don't find his sister attractive, or cared about her, overall the weakest sex scene imo.


Kinda sad, i didn't expect them anywhere cose to the main ones, but Lucy or Rain, maybe Molly would have been interesting, even if it was just some sub route.
But than it would likely increase your workload by a lot, so kinda understandable.
Funny thing is I did find his sister unattractive cause of the crazy hair mostly lol at least compared to the rest yet I was starting to like her a little bit she seems like a decent character. Yeah her scene is the weaker of them all but I still like it.

Yeah same I really wanted Rainn to have some kind of path ( tho I was hoping she was a main girl) as she seems just as interesting as Imogen to me as a character
 
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Dessolos

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Rainn is special. She's intriguing for a reason. I'm glad I've seen so many people comment on her.
haha a comment like this just making me more impatient and can't wait for more Rainn scenes. I know ive said this already but great game I really love your approach and insight on things in this one. Once it gets more updates I can see this being one of the better games out of the ones I consider a favorite.
 
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Something that was mentioned back with the original release of ch1, and I've seen mentioned again with ch2, is some sort of status screen/character sheet type of thing to help people keep a better track of things. I was originally a little hesitant, but I've decided that it's something worth making, even if it's just a character sheet with basic information. I'll try and implement it into the game itself, but coding is by far my weakest point so it may just be a separate PDF download or something like that.

What I wanted to ask with this post is what sort of information would people want on a character sheet? Obviously if I manage to implement it in the game I could code it to update based on decisions that have been made etc., but just for the basic character overview what sort of things do people expect from something like this? Just so I don't miss anything that people would expect from a character sheet. (I'll also have a look around other games for examples)
 

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What I wanted to ask with this post is what sort of information would people want on a character sheet? Obviously if I manage to implement it in the game I could code it to update based on decisions that have been made etc., but just for the basic character overview what sort of things do people expect from something like this? Just so I don't miss anything that people would expect from a character sheet. (I'll also have a look around other games for examples)
IMO some of the "main" things would be things useful to the player "in game" such basic info like their name or year, their house (or lack thereof), their relations to other characters (non choice dependent ones), in this category would also be "useless" fun facts that inform us about the character but might be hard to work into the story (ie favorite movie/activity).

The other main thing would be sexual stats (measurements, favorite act.....uhhhh other things i guess? :HideThePain: ) Then like you said something to show what they have gotten up to that was dependent on the MC choices (helps people when updates come imo)
 

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Something that was mentioned back with the original release of ch1, and I've seen mentioned again with ch2, is some sort of status screen/character sheet type of thing to help people keep a better track of things. I was originally a little hesitant, but I've decided that it's something worth making, even if it's just a character sheet with basic information. I'll try and implement it into the game itself, but coding is by far my weakest point so it may just be a separate PDF download or something like that.

What I wanted to ask with this post is what sort of information would people want on a character sheet? Obviously if I manage to implement it in the game I could code it to update based on decisions that have been made etc., but just for the basic character overview what sort of things do people expect from something like this? Just so I don't miss anything that people would expect from a character sheet. (I'll also have a look around other games for examples)
At the very least I think this should be included
Picture of the girl , name , any nicknames , sorority , a bit about their personality / traits , siblings ( as long it won't spoil anything)

(optional) maybe a small bio would be nice but isn't needed, maybe classes they they are taking just cause it's a college AVN , maybe some basic likes and dislikes would be nice too

These are ones I can think of if you do include it in game but not sure how hard it is to code.

the relationship status, with the MC ( friend with benefits , girlfriend or single) , Their feeling towards the MC base on choices maybe but this might be a bit complicated. So if you make to many bad choices maybe can see they hate the MC for example or vis versa.

unsure how you going to handle relationships with other male characters If you do plan to allow some LI to get in relationships with other guys and have the player find out about it or know about it them. I think another good for in game only would be BF's / relationship with other guys or who they like. But this also might be something you want to stay away from to cause people might be calling NTR for no reason just cause they see the status even if said character isn't a LI or anything.
 

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Something that was mentioned back with the original release of ch1, and I've seen mentioned again with ch2, is some sort of status screen/character sheet type of thing to help people keep a better track of things. I was originally a little hesitant, but I've decided that it's something worth making, even if it's just a character sheet with basic information. I'll try and implement it into the game itself, but coding is by far my weakest point so it may just be a separate PDF download or something like that.

What I wanted to ask with this post is what sort of information would people want on a character sheet? Obviously if I manage to implement it in the game I could code it to update based on decisions that have been made etc., but just for the basic character overview what sort of things do people expect from something like this? Just so I don't miss anything that people would expect from a character sheet. (I'll also have a look around other games for examples)
This is possibly overkill, but as an example

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Then you click to a short bio

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And a list of choices player made

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cicadaNGB

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Noted, thanks guys. I will say the only thing here I definitely won't include is a bio (at least not one that detailed). Personally don't want to give that much background info on characters, wouldn't work with what I'm going for here. For similar reasons some characters might end up with more and less information about them, I'll have to see what I end up going with. Thanks
 

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Just played through this tonight for the first time and I have to say, I'm impressed.
The MC seems interesting and good looking, which always makes me happy, he actually looks like someone who would be popular with the ladies. I'm also looking forward to learning more about his back story, it all seems pretty tragic.
And speaking of the girls, there are plenty of great looking ones to choose from, almost too many if I'm honest. I'm probably into Mia and Tegan the most at the moment, but we shall see.
I look forward to seeing more of this one in the future.
 
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I played both chapters, I enjoyed this one a lot and will definitely follow .

The thing I liked the most is realism, the story feels realistic, and the characters behave in a believable way, girls don't instantly fall in love with the MC like in other games and the times we had sex felt once again believable, so for me this was a bonus.

That being said I have some problems with the MC who is making some weird decisions that sometimes don't seem to fit him, I imagine this will be explained in future chapters cause it feels a little contradicting:

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