zeraligator

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The protags' eyelids clip through eachother in the intro, just before Jamie speaks for the first time.
The 'manly' response when Jamie lets you down seems a bit too whiney, wouldn't it fit the theme of stereotypical masculinity better if the protag doesn't immediately back down from his critique within the same text message?
Why does Emma only show her upper teeth when smiling? Looks weird (and just a bit horselike) to me.
Feels like the point gained notifications go by a bit too quickly, it makes it somewhat difficult to see whether it was a +1 or a +5.
The animations and styling are very nice and certainly give the impression that a lot of care has gone into this project. I would suggest having the transition automatically progress into the first line of a scene though as it feels a bit like a pacebraker to have to manually progress through multiple screens just after an animated segment.
In Jen's first scene she states the initial suggestion initially came from family, you don't need both those initials.
To be fair, I don't know much about chess but shouldn't it be 'the rank of grandmaster' or 'the title of grandmaster' rather than both? She also says 'close to become' which should be 'close to becoming'.
She later says she isn't 'at studying', as studying is an activity and not a location you can leave out 'at'.
 
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desmosome

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Bro. I am amazed after every update to this game. We always get timely updates that are substantial.

Kim might be the most vile woman I have ever seen in a porn game, and I love it lol. It's because of how good the dev is at portraying realistic characters. Think about some bitchy and evil woman in any porn game. 99% of them will be caricatures and cartoon villain types with no shred of humanity or introspection. Just off the top of my head, Kathleen from Pale Carnations might be the only other one I can think of that is as convincing as this one. Since Pale Carnation's plot is a bit more far fetched comparatively, this game has the advantage in depicting realistic character interactions. Damn that whole exchange with Kim was engaging.

I was a kinda torn on which route to go with her. On one hand, I really like cheating stories. MC cheating on girls. Girls cheating on their partners with the MC. Girls cheating on the MC in NTR games. That said, I had to really force myself to agree to the deal because I hate smug bitches "winning" lol. I hope we can take the upper hand in the relationship later on after taking her deal.

I wonder what would happen if you antagonize her though. Would she just purely turn into an obstacle, or would we have a chance to turn the tables on her and maybe dominate her for being a cunt?

Anyways, everything else was great. I like Jen's kink and the possible escalation from this rather tame exploration they shared. Emma is great as always. I love that spark and tension between them. The bit about the fatty waitress was great lol.
 
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SteelyDan14

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It seems like a really good game and the dev has put a ton of work into it... tracking all of those traits will not be easy... but I can't get past the black outlines around the characters. Totally takes me out of the story... I just keep getting distracted by it. I know it's a style and I appreciate the attempt at something new, but it's not for me.

Just because it's not for me, I can appreciate a good thing when I see it. Nice job so far!
 

desmosome

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It seems like a really good game and the dev has put a ton of work into it... tracking all of those traits will not be easy... but I can't get past the black outlines around the characters. Totally takes me out of the story... I just keep getting distracted by it. I know it's a style and I appreciate the attempt at something new, but it's not for me.

Just because it's not for me, I can appreciate a good thing when I see it. Nice job so far!
That black outline was pretty thick in the first chapter, but it gets toned down a lot later on.
 
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Frosty2000

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It seems like a really good game and the dev has put a ton of work into it... tracking all of those traits will not be easy... but I can't get past the black outlines around the characters. Totally takes me out of the story... I just keep getting distracted by it. I know it's a style and I appreciate the attempt at something new, but it's not for me.

Just because it's not for me, I can appreciate a good thing when I see it. Nice job so far!
This is just an issue in the earlier parts. Be a bit patient and from chapter 2 onwards this isn't really a problem anymore.
 
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Mister_M

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That's my playthrough so far and just wanted to give that advice too. Really no reason to cut your options short so far, as long as no real commitment has been made. ;)
Yeah, but I plan to be professional with Jen and against Kim on my main playthrough, where I am torn between Deb and Bri (I'll probably continue Emma's route up until commitment time to anyone, when I'll make a separate save for her). I'm not one for man-slutting or harems tbh. On the other hand I'm also curious about mixing various routes: maybe if we go against Kim and get to be close with Jen Kim will try to use that relationship against MC at some point; or maybe some decisions (like regarding cucking or submitting) will create come conflicts with our friends and LIs, maybe even edanger MC's career. Or maybe being with someone and Deb at the same time will lead me to the fork where I have to decide if I want to stay true to her challenge or lose it. For that reasons I prefer to keep few playthrough since start (plus it's always nice to repeat every update few times) and have easy acces to all routes and more important decisions.
 

Frosty2000

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Yeah, but I plan to be professional with Jen and against Kim on my main playthrough, where I am torn between Deb and Bri (I'll probably continue Emma's route up until commitment time to anyone, when I'll make a separate save for her). I'm not one for man-slutting or harems tbh. On the other hand I'm also curious about mixing various routes: maybe if we go against Kim and get to be close with Jen Kim will try to use that relationship against MC at some point; or maybe some decisions (like regarding cucking or submitting) will create come conflicts with our friends and LIs, maybe even edanger MC's career. Or maybe being with someone and Deb at the same time will lead me to the fork where I have to decide if I want to stay true to her challenge or lose it. For that reasons I prefer to keep few playthrough since start (plus it's always nice to repeat every update few times) and have easy acces to all routes and more important decisions.
Well you are a better man than me in that regard. Also from what MrSilverLust said, I don't think we will be punished harshly for being slutty. While in real life me being a "man slut" created some problems for me, I am confident my MC here will be relatively safe. ;)
 

LAKueiJin

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Regarding femdom, Deb and Kim are the most obvious ones. But, in the 3rd chapter, depending on your choices, Jen also has one path starting, and Lea gives the first hint that she might get more interested in that. Again, don't expect these paths to develop into them turning into leather dominatrixes in the next 2 chapters. It will be more nuanced than that. But, I hope that it will still be interesting and fun for femdom lovers.
:eek: Your game never ceases to pleasantly surprise then haha! Gotta go back on my playthrough and not resist Jen this time around then! (although I would've never expected it of Lea...) Also, probably nobody talked about this yet, but I loved how Mediterranean/Carribean the town where Jen had her tournament and played the chess hustler looked! I know most characters have Anglo-Saxon names, but for a moment there it felt like we were on a chess-themed romantic vacation with Jen on the island of Hispaniola or in southern Italy! :LOL:

Anyway, thanks for the update once again! And don't worry about "leather dominatrixes" - in a way I even find latex suits a bit of a cliche/stereotype in how often they are used to represent dominant women (eg I'm firmly in the "femdom in pretty dresses" camp so to speak ;)), so the fact that the girls will have more nuanced and uniquely-reflective of their personality kinks makes the game look like an even more enticing prospect from my perspective. Keep up the good work!
 
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gregers

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I'll be honest, when I saw a Black dude labeled 'Hustler' I feared the worst kind of lazy caricature, but was really pleased to be proven wrong. I generally don't go for wholesomeness in games, but that whole interaction was just super pleasant and wholesome and a nice little character moment for Jen, whom I'd not really warmed that much to previously.
 

MrSilverLust

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I'll be honest, when I saw a Black dude labeled 'Hustler' I feared the worst kind of lazy caricature, but was really pleased to be proven wrong. I generally don't go for wholesomeness in games, but that whole interaction was just super pleasant and wholesome and a nice little character moment for Jen, whom I'd not really warmed that much to previously.
Chess hustlers are still quite common in many areas of the US (or so I've read, since I'm not from there). That scene was okay, but I actually wanted it to be a bit more fun/trash talking, but it was too hard to convey that spirit. It was of fun video that inspired it. I think even non-chess fans can find that sort of thing fun.
 
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osanaiko

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It's "limbs", not "limps"...heh...driving me crazy. o_O
I'm currently working through the proofreading/editing for v3.1, so this issue (and many other minor phrasing or homonym issues) in Chapter 3 are getting fixed, and will be included in a future update.

Unfortunately, as is common with VNs that are developed AS A HOBBY, the developer ran out of time to get a proofreading pass completed before he released to Patrons. And this release here is the leaked Patron version.

MrSilverLust is awesome :love: and his English is 1000% better than my grasp of his language, but it's the reality of the world that non-native speakers are going to make some mistakes. Which is why I like to help improve this already fantastic game.
 

bulifun

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Wow, this game is so good, that it made me try out all the options in several playthroughs, even manly options to get the Jen scenes. Glad to see that we also have the option to go femdom with her in the future. Helping the inexperienced/sexually unsure girl explore her dominant side will be my mission. :ROFLMAO:
Emma, Jen, Kim and Deb are just great. Especially hoping to see more Emma content though, the first scene with the passive option was incredibly hot, and I really enjoy the playful love/hate/power relationship with her. Also interested to see what getting blackmailed by Kim will get me into. :p
 

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Cheats & Gallery Unlocker Mod [v0.2.2]


Note: Gallery is locked or scenes you have played are unlocked as it would be . To unlock unseen scenes use the button Unlock Gallery in Cheats menu.

As always If you like my work considering supporting me on my or join my and if you like the game consider supporting dev on .
Can you please update the unlocker?
 

SanguineYip

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Fantastic job.
Though definitely needs a mod to give all skills or enough points to get them.
As it appears you need to straddle all 4 trees.

I will say this though I definitely have alot of the kinks listed.
 

Mister_M

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Though definitely needs a mod to give all skills or enough points to get them.
You can start the game (New Game+) in Relax Mode, which doubles the pts you're getting for every action plus if you click "Options" in the skill menu you can also choose "Unlock all skills" cheat, which gives you all skills.
 
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underoath27

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Well, just played first chapter and gotta say: it is pretty good! I'm enjoying so far. Emma and Jen are my favorite ones. Deb is hot and all but I don't know. I like Lea too.
 

gokitan

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so, i dont know if anyone got this same problem, it happened right before going inside your mind after jen wins the final.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 445, in execute_pause
renpy.pause()
File "game/shader/shaderdisplayable.rpy", line 9, in _interactCallback
GLError: GLError(
err = 1281,
description = 'valor no v\xe1lido',
baseOperation = glDeleteTextures,
pyArgs = (1, c_ulong(504L)),
cArgs = (1, c_ulong(504L)),
cArguments = (1, c_ulong(504L))
)

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 326, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 617, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "scripts/script.rpyc", line 2968, in script call
File "scripts/script.rpyc", line 5899, in script
File "scripts/script.rpyc", line 2968, in script call
File "scripts/script.rpyc", line 5899, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1969, in execute
self.call("execute")
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1957, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/statements.py", line 278, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 445, in execute_pause
renpy.pause()
File "renpy/exports.py", line 1516, in pause
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='pause', type='pause', roll_forward=roll_forward, pause=delay)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3007, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3251, in interact_core
i()
File "game/shader/shaderdisplayable.rpy", line 9, in _interactCallback
File "shader/controller.py", line 98, in checkDisplayableVisibility
File "shader/controller.py", line 47, in freeController
File "shader/controller.py", line 127, in free
File "shader/rendering.py", line 134, in free
File "shader/rendering.py", line 43, in free
File "shader/rendering.py", line 35, in free
File "shader/gpu/texture.py", line 47, in free
File "OpenGL/latebind.py", line 63, in __call__
File "OpenGL/GL/exceptional.py", line 63, in glDeleteTextures
File "OpenGL/latebind.py", line 43, in __call__
File "OpenGL/wrapper.py", line 700, in wrapperCall
GLError: GLError(
err = 1281,
description = 'valor no v\xe1lido',
baseOperation = glDeleteTextures,
pyArgs = (1, c_ulong(504L)),
cArgs = (1, c_ulong(504L)),
cArguments = (1, c_ulong(504L))
)

Ren'Py 7.4.2.1292
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