This is excellent news for those of us who don't play with One Main Love Interest. I'd been annoyed by that screen.One thing mentioned somewhere above that I'll fix in the future is that part that forces the player to choose a crush. It was a mistake to not allow the player to simply pick no one.
Does anyone know what flag is used to designate crushes?
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You get to pick during the event with her and Carl, Bull or Bottom:Also is there any other path planned for Deb, other than being her sub?
I was actually a little bit annoyed I could just choose one. Would have chosen all of them. ;PThis is excellent news for those of us who don't play with One Main Love Interest. I'd been annoyed by that screen.
If I had to pick one it would have been Brie as by far the most attractive character, but she wasn't an option. And generally don't enjoy games forcing you to pick the MC's One True Love when there's so much fucking around to do.I was actually a little bit annoyed I could just choose one. Would have chosen all of them. ;P
For me Deb's approach is totally fine. Boundaries can simply be established naturally over time. No reason to go through a list kink list from the start. If she goes too far the MC can simply tell her in the moment. Deb seems to be a very well meaning Domme anyway. So not concerned there.hmm you make good points there.
I am a switch, with a stronger tendency to serve the others already from the get-go, but never to the point of becoming a slave. In the name of playfulness I can do many things, I can either be dominant or dominated (preferably both), as long as it's clear that it's something of the moment, not a contract for the future (I do however tend to establish relations where I am more frequently in the position of a giver and supporter).
So in the game, the dominant roles I played, they felt more like something of the moment, and that both parties understood that. But in the sub roles to me it sounded like that wasn't so clear. For example, for me it's completely crazy how with Deb what starts as a simple foot massage, can escalate crazily to a compromise of having no orgasms for a week. I'm glad that there's the option to say no to that (and fairly assertively so).
Deb being into femdom is all cool, but she has to learn a lot, she's not a good dom (yet?). She doesn't pre-establish boundaries, safe words, etc. She tends to impose her will while having very little notion of what she's actually doing. A good dom has tact and self control, and the MC should know better than to being a powerless enabler of a total rookie.
... plus her romantic dream TM (walt disney romance mentality) of wanting one single person to complements her in every field is rather annoying, if not scary in this case. And well, unfortunately this is indeed quite realistic of the game. Most people do see the world that way :/
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omg it's so weird to see me ranting like this about fictional characters hahaha
proof that this game is quite well made
I don't think a crush is the one true love. So personally I didn't put that much importance in it. I choose Jen, since she reminded me the most of crushes I had in real life. I think MrSilverlust even said that choice won't force us into a path. But again as a man-slut I wouldn't have really preferred one over the others at this point either.If I had to pick one it would have been Brie as by far the most attractive character, but she wasn't an option. And generally don't enjoy games forcing you to pick the MC's One True Love when there's so much fucking around to do.
The dev sort of answered this in a recent patreon post. The simple answer is while there might be some options for non-submissive players it won't be long lasting or a happy relationship with Deb. Since her entire relationship problems are because she wants a submissive partner.Also is there any other path planned for Deb, other than being her sub?
Honesty after that scene where MC cucks Debs fiance I lost interest in her. Everything became so depressing so quickly after MC fucked her, one moment they all seem to be having a good time but then she just starts insulting her fiancé making him feel like shit and it just makes the whole scene depressing given the fact that he's only being a cuck to make Deb happy bacuase he loves her. I was into the whole cuck thing when I thought the fiance just enjoyed watching his woman get fucked by other men but that wasn't the case here. If anything she doesn't deserve to be with him, she's just a whore who likes being in control and it's disappointing because she was one of the LIs I was most intrigued by.. visually at least.The dev sort of answered this in a recent patreon post. The simple answer is while there might be some options for non-submissive players it won't be long lasting or a happy relationship with Deb. Since her entire relationship problems are because she wants a submissive partner.
I will stick part of his patreon post in spoilers for anyone that wants to hear the answer straight from him.
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I completely agree! I was super bummed she wasn't as choice. (Even though choosing Deb was nicely rewarded in the last chapter on her sub route.)If I had to pick one it would have been Brie as by far the most attractive character, but she wasn't an option.
I can understand what you mean but I think that was the point of that scene if you choose to cuck Carl. What I got from that scene was the opposite of what you said and the only reason she agreed to that stuff was to try and make Carl happy since he is the one who has a cuck fantasy not Deb.Honesty after that scene where MC cucks Debs fiance I lost interest in her. Everything became so depressing so quickly after MC fucked her, one moment they all seem to be having a good time but then she just starts insulting her fiancé making him feel like shit and it just makes the whole scene depressing given the fact that he's only being a cuck to make Deb happy bacuase he loves her. I was into the whole cuck thing when I thought the fiance just enjoyed watching his woman get fucked by other men but that wasn't the case here. If anything she doesn't deserve to be with him, she's just a whore who likes being in control and it's disappointing because she was one of the LIs I was most intrigued by.. visually at least.
My question was more regarding her choice in CH 3, the foot fetish scene is the sub option.You get to pick during the event with her and Carl, Bull or Bottom:
Yeah, it certainly served to establish that Deb is currently not very good or experienced at being a domme. There were no clear roles or limits set beforehand so the scenario got out of hand. Carl is into sharing his girlfriend, not necessarily the humiliation of being cuckolded, but the only way that works for Deb is through the lens of a D/s dynamic where the humiliation becomes the focal point.I can understand what you mean but I think that was the point of that scene if you choose to cuck Carl. What I got from that scene was the opposite of what you said and the only reason she agreed to that stuff was to try and make Carl happy since he is the one who has a cuck fantasy not Deb.
It got out of control since they are having relationship problems and it all came to a head when Deb started degrading him hence it becoming incredibly awkward after everyone came to their senses. So I think that was the developers intention if you chose that route.
You are probably right, I know absolutely nothing about D/s relationships so for me I just found the whole scene really awkward and uncomfortable.Yeah, it certainly served to establish that Deb is currently not very good or experienced at being a domme. There were no clear roles or limits set beforehand so the scenario got out of hand. Carl is into sharing his girlfriend, not necessarily the humiliation of being cuckolded, but the only way that works for Deb is through the lens of a D/s dynamic where the humiliation becomes the focal point.
To me it came across as a scene where the MC—had he been less of a clueless buffoon—ought to have stepped up and taken responsibility for steering the scenario. He's a former sexual therapist, he should have some idea how these things work and how easily they can go wrong.You are probably right, I know absolutely nothing about D/s relationships so for me I just found the whole scene really awkward and uncomfortable.
I agree with your point here. To be honest until your post I forgot that he is also supposed to be a former sex therapist since I just have it in my head that he is just a psychologist.He's a former sexual therapist, he should have some idea how these things work and how easily they can go wrong.
It's also very plausible if you consider that a lot of therapists are very good when diagnosing a scenario from the "doctor's perspective" but really struggle in their personal relationships in similar scenarios...I agree with your point here. To be honest until your post I forgot that he is also supposed to be a former sex therapist since I just have it in my head that he is just a psychologist.
I think the same point could be applied to the male dom scene with Jen in this update since he seemed like a complete idiot when she is talking about how she likes to be told what to do and didn't quite get what she was talking about there either.
That's what I thought too at first, that getting cucked was Carl's kink henceI can understand what you mean but I think that was the point of that scene if you choose to cuck Carl. What I got from that scene was the opposite of what you said and the only reason she agreed to that stuff was to try and make Carl happy since he is the one who has a cuck fantasy not Deb.
It got out of control since they are having relationship problems and it all came to a head when Deb started degrading him hence it becoming incredibly awkward after everyone came to their senses. So I think that was the developers intention if you chose that route.