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so, i dont know if anyone got this same problem, it happened right before going inside your mind after jen wins the final.
I strongly suggest next time you use the post's spoiler feature to hide your traceback, so that you don't clutter the thread with all that text...
 
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MrSilverLust

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In the Galley i got 3 scenes unlocked (all about the BJ), but one more is still locked at the end.Cant really figure out what iam missing there. Any hints?
During her scene you need to choose “To be honest, that sounds hot as hell”.

Then, during the blowjob you’ll have 3 options, one requiring the use of a skill. Pick them all to unlock all screens in the gallery. Each one of the options changes a bit how the scene ends.

Fantastic job.
Though definitely needs a mod to give all skills or enough points to get them.
As it appears you need to straddle all 4 trees.
As was explained, all of that is already implemented in the game. In the skills menu, click "options" and choose the settings as you like: getting double the points for each option, or cheat and just get all skills. Also, when starting a new game, you can set those settings from the start.

Please not that I have several checks throughout the game to check which status is higher (for example do you have more manly points or sensitive points). So, the content you might see is still different if you’re playing a manly character or a sensitive character. The cheats don’t change that.

so, i dont know if anyone got this same problem, it happened right before going inside your mind after jen wins the final.
Hmm... that error in that place was never reported. Please try to switch off the shaders in the options menu and try again. Also, as said before the patch 0.3.1 fixes a couple bugs and lots of typos. I'd recommend using that. Although, it has nothing to do with that particular error.
 

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I'll be damned ! This might just be the only "real" porn game on this website I ever found (no offense to other works, just a personal feeling). The writing makes the situations so realistic it's kind of impressive how immersing this VN gets. And it's damn interesting because I think I tried most of those kinks on some different, mostly low levels but it gives ideas for more experimentations with the lady. Maybe I've even learned something new about myself lol !

Don't even want to add the usual positive criticism because the direction seems to be top-notch and I don't want to interfere with it at all. The skill tree idea is just great and I'm curious where it will go from there.

And is it just me or the MC kinda cornered himself into a future heavy drama Bang while bringing all those babes together into a secluded cabin for at least a week to live with ? Not a smart move coming from a psy !

The only thing I would recommend is to add some kind of warning at the beginning, to urge people going through a hard time not to play the game while feeling off. I can definitely see how, at least the first chapter, could open wounds for some. The writing is too good not to spare the depression feeling someone might be inclined to. Just a bit of advice so the author avoids potential retaliation if something turned bad somewhere.

But seriously, amazing job, I'll check the patreon.
 
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Just make certain choices in the conversation with Kim at the coffee-shop, it won't (yet) lead to a sex scene, but it is a fem-dom scene that presumably appeals to masochists.
Just make certain choices in the conversation with Kim at the coffee-shop, it won't (yet) lead to a sex scene, but it is a fem-dom scene that presumably appeals to masochists.
kim starting to walk all over you is that it?
 

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kim starting to walk all over you is that it?
That's it for now. Let her trample all over you during the conversation and accept her proposal afterwards to start the path, that's as far as she goes.
 

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And is it just me or the MC kinda cornered himself into a future heavy drama Bang while bringing all those babes together into a secluded cabin for at least a week to live with ? Not a smart move coming from a psy !
Yup, I totally agree, it's the kind of idea that looks very exciting but it's like playing with a barrel of gunpowder...


The only thing I would recommend is to add some kind of warning at the beginning, to urge people going through a hard time not to play the game while feeling off.
there is a warning in the beginning: 1644108279554.png

But anyway, yeah, me personally felt a bit triggered here and there or at least quite annoyed. Cos like you said, it's a game way more immersive and realistic than others, but on the other hand the MC behaves in ways that are too reckless, considering how well informed he's supposed to be.
I actually decided to stop playing for a couple of days out of that x)

It's because even the MC himself sucks a good bit at communicating his true intentions, desires, needs and boundaries. He jumps into dynamics without pre-establishing things properly, which is an aspect that a good psychologist, specially a sexologist, should be quite aware of.
And more than anything he definitely needs to do therapy himself, his inner voice is just too self-destructive.

For me (relational anarchist) it's frustrating to finally find a game this good, taking such a great step into demystifying a bunch of important things in real life which common people are severely uneducated about, but then showcasing it by.... hmmm... "bad example" is too strong, but well...
I mean at least so far, that's what I observe hahaha (I guess there will be character growth, but I wish the MC didn't have to commit so many rookie mistakes that affect unnecessarily so many other people).

I think that this game has yet much to show us, and more than that, I feel it may open a precedent for creations way more wholesome out there.
Major kudos to MrSilverLust
 
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Frosty2000

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Yup, I totally agree, it's the kind of idea that looks very exciting but it's like playing with a barrel of gunpowder...




there is a warning in the beginning: View attachment 1637038

But anyway, yeah, me personally felt a bit triggered here and there or at least quite annoyed. Cos like you said, it's a game way more immersive and realistic than others, but on the other hand the MC behaves in ways that are too reckless, considering how well informed he's supposed to be.
I actually decided to stop playing for a couple of days out of that x)

It's because even the MC himself sucks a good bit at communicating his true intentions, desires, needs and boundaries. He jumps into dynamics without pre-establishing things properly, which is an aspect that a good psychologist, specially a sexologist, should be quite aware of.
And more than anything he definitely needs to do therapy himself, his inner voice is just too self-destructive.

For me (relational anarchist) it's frustrating to finally find a game this good, taking such a great step into demystifying a bunch of important things in real life which common people are severely uneducated about, but then showcasing it by.... hmmm... "bad example" is too strong, but well...
I mean at least so far, that's what I observe hahaha (I guess there will be character growth, but I wish the MC didn't have to commit so many rookie mistakes that affect unnecessarily so many other people).

I think that this game has yet much to show us, and more than that, I feel it may open a precedent for creations way more wholesome out there.
Major kudos to MrSilverLust
Hmm, but aren't most of the MC's "bad" decisions a result of player input though? Personally I had sex with Emma first chance, decided to have no professional distance to Jen, jumped on any chance to explore Lea's naughty side more, immediately agreed to sexual activity with Deb and totally caved in to Kim's pressure and blackmail.
All of this could have been avoided, so not going to blame MrSilverLust for any problems being created because of these decisions. Reminds me of some people, who complained in other threads about femdom scenes, even though to get these scenes you had to actively choose obvious options to get there.^^
Anyway somebody who would be morally perfect would have only Bri and Emma as valid options and would have rejected the hate fuck with Emma. Okay, maybe they would have got farther with Bri than our damaged game MC, if this would be a real life simulation. Still would be quite boring in comparison, so I am in full support of MC's various voices in his head and will happily choose more "not so smart" options in the future! ;)
 

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There is no Netorare in the game or will be. There is Netori (you have sex with someone else's girlfriend) and there will be a sharing/netorase path in the future. All sex scenes are optional and require skills that you need to "buy" with points that you get from dozens of choices. A pic of the skill tree is in the first post. If you don't have a skill you don't like, like sharing, you'll never see a scene with that kink.
If there will be a sharing/cuckold (netorase) path i'm in for sure!!! :)
Because MC starts single, who will be the lucky woman to cuck our protagonist?
 
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Tikita

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Yup, I totally agree, it's the kind of idea that looks very exciting but it's like playing with a barrel of gunpowder...




there is a warning in the beginning: View attachment 1637038

But anyway, yeah, me personally felt a bit triggered here and there or at least quite annoyed. Cos like you said, it's a game way more immersive and realistic than others, but on the other hand the MC behaves in ways that are too reckless, considering how well informed he's supposed to be.
I actually decided to stop playing for a couple of days out of that x)

It's because even the MC himself sucks a good bit at communicating his true intentions, desires, needs and boundaries. He jumps into dynamics without pre-establishing things properly, which is an aspect that a good psychologist, specially a sexologist, should be quite aware of.
And more than anything he definitely needs to do therapy himself, his inner voice is just too self-destructive.

For me (relational anarchist) it's frustrating to finally find a game this good, taking such a great step into demystifying a bunch of important things in real life which common people are severely uneducated about, but then showcasing it by.... hmmm... "bad example" is too strong, but well...
I mean at least so far, that's what I observe hahaha (I guess there will be character growth, but I wish the MC didn't have to commit so many rookie mistakes that affect unnecessarily so many other people).

I think that this game has yet much to show us, and more than that, I feel it may open a precedent for creations way more wholesome out there.
Major kudos to MrSilverLust
Yeah, I also saw the disclaimer but to me, it's more oriented to social justice warriors or stuck-up puritans, not necessarily people down on emotions and dark thoughts. And today you never know what could happen depending on which crazy law system the case could fall into. It never hurts to take extra precautions with these kinds of things I believe.

And I feel you about the MC being reckless as hell, but I chose to play it from the pov of a walking disaster. Because come on, with his degree of knowledge on communication, the guy behavior is a ticking bomb. First of all, he's definitely in a bad place even if he tries denying it, second, he's supposed to be an expert in helping people but refuses any kind of help at all cost (friends, consulting... which is sorta funny because I think psychology worker must at least consult with a peer once or twice a year to keep their license, at least in my country). He got an issue with his ego, overreact when unecessary, shut down and pouts for weeks. To me, he got all the warnings signs checked.

I don't know but exploring your sexuality when in those conditions is not very safe for you or anyone else around, especially with his skills he could turn into a monstrous manipulator while exploiting his knowledge. But who knows where the story will take us, maybe it will be an ultimate redemption tale of growing up or a desperate fall into the rabbit hole. Or something else, I'm not even sure if morality questions will have any place at all in this one. That unpredictability definitely shows how good the writing is here. Black and white usually suck, grey is the only realistic color when it comes to people. But I think the title of the game might give us a clue about the final direction, maybe, I don't know xD

The only game this one might make me think of and that I'm also sponsoring is New Coral City season 2, I can draw a few parallels between the both. But the take on the writing is completely different, not necessarily worse but definitely different.

At least, next update should definitely makes things clearer what is gonna be here.
 
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Yeah, I also saw the disclaimer but to me, it's more oriented to social justice warriors or stuck-up puritans, not necessarily people down on emotions and dark thoughts. And today you never know what could happen depending on which crazy law system the case could fall into. It never hurts to take extra precautions with these kinds of things I believe.

And I feel you about the MC being reckless as hell, but I chose to play it from the pov of a walking disaster. Because come on, with his degree of knowledge on communication, the guy behavior is a ticking bomb. First of all, he's definitely in a bad place even if he tries denying it, second, he's supposed to be an expert in helping people but refuses any kind of help at all cost (friends, consulting... which is sorta funny because I think psychology worker must at least consult with a peer once or twice a year to keep their license, at least in my country). He got an issue with his ego, overreact when unecessary, shut down and pouts for weeks. To me, he got all the warnings signs checked.

I don't know but exploring your sexuality when in those conditions is not very safe for you or anyone else around, especially with his skills he could turn into a monstrous manipulator while exploiting his knowledge. But who knows where the story will take us, maybe it will be an ultimate redemption tale of growing up or a desperate fall into the rabbit hole. Or something else, I'm not even sure if morality questions will have any place at all in this one. That unpredictability definitely shows how good the writing is here. Black and white usually suck, grey is the only realistic color when it comes to people. But I think the title of the game might give us a clue about the final direction, maybe, I don't know xD

The only game this one might make me think of and that I'm also sponsoring is New Coral City season 2, I can draw a few parallels between the both. But the take on the writing is completely different, not necessarily worse but definitely different.

At least, next update should definitely makes things clearer what is gonna be here.

I wanted to clap react, but then I saw that it means "hey there" so I've put a heart instead hahaha

I couldn't agree more to everything you said! He's really reckless and shortsighted, and I also think that in my country the therapists need to do therapy before being therapists, and probably do those yearly sessions too.

And thank you for mentioning New Coral City game, I think I will check it.

Frosty2000 I also agree that this is a game, not a simulator, we get to try out things we wouldn't do in real life, at least to see up to which crazy point it takes us.
To me it just irked me cos it's the first game that I see that has a scenario this plausible and which is this good at showcasing more realistically all those kinks, but then the experience is kind of ruined for me personally because I can't take pleasure from any of the outcomes of the MC's actions. Maybe because they are too similar to shitty things I've either seen happening to friends or experienced myself...
Yes, me being the player, I get to decide what he does or doesn't do, BUT, what I'm saying is that in his place I wouldn't choose any of the available options in the most crucial moments. I see a break of character cos he's supposed to be much better informed and trained as a psychologist and sexologist.

But don't think that I hate this MC, I don't, it's more frustration than anything ‍♂
I'll surely keep on seeing the evolution of this game :D

oh and btw,
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Frosty2000 I also agree that this is a game, not a simulator, we get to try out things we wouldn't do in real life, at least to see up to which crazy point it takes us.
To me it just irked me cos it's the first game that I see that has a scenario this plausible and which is this good at showcasing more realistically all those kinks, but then the experience is kind of ruined for me personally because I can't take pleasure from any of the outcomes of the MC's actions. Maybe because they are too similar to shitty things I've either seen happening to friends or experienced myself...
Yes, me being the player, I get to decide what he does or doesn't do, BUT, what I'm saying is that in his place I wouldn't choose any of the available options in the most crucial moments. I see a break of character cos he's supposed to be much better informed and trained as a psychologist and sexologist.
Hmm first of all I think I have done worse things in real life than what the MC here did...:sneaky: To be honest I don't find anything really bad what my MC did. I play him as totally submissive and so far I see him as a positive influence on anybody, besides himself maybe. Although seeing it as negative for himself would be only from the view of someone not enjoying femdom. ;) Personally I would see a dominant MC more critical though, but reading your spoilers you considered them to be less bad. Anyway maybe your disconnect comes simply from not having the mindset/desires for maledom and especially femdom content?:unsure: I might characterize you wrong, but nice, balanced vanilla options might be your preference and the focus hasn't been on these I guess.
Still from the options I have seen (haven't really played all of them) my impression was that it is quite possible to play through the game as an honorable "vanilla" guy.
 
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It's a bit strange to see a 'save here' screen after chapter one even though chapter two has already been finished.
 

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Hi, MrSilverLust

what software do you use to illustrate?

Your work is impressive. Congratulations.
Funnily enough, the art style seems to be a polarising part of this game. Some people really don't like it.

It's just daz3d with a cartoonish shader. In all honesty, it started out of necessity because my old laptop cannot render the realistic art style you see in the other daz3d games. It'd probably take 20x longer per render...

So, I searched for alternatives and found this shader. My hang of it is getting better (the first chapter had too strong outlines, and I didn't even know how to change some settings; also, even now, the lighting can look a bit bad at times), and I really like the style as it is now.

But yeah, if you look at the reviews or in the comments, that's the biggest point of criticism.

It's a bit strange to see a 'save here' screen after chapter one even though chapter two has already been finished.
Yeah, it would look better if I changed those old images to just say "end of chapter x" and remove the save here part.

Yeah, I also saw the disclaimer but to me, it's more oriented to social justice warriors or stuck-up puritans, not necessarily people down on emotions and dark thoughts.
I'll extend the disclaimer bit, although the mc is getting into a better place, so, the worse part is the mental health department is getting behind us.

As for the walking disaster... there are options that are better than others, you don't have to go for any of the lewd scenes if you think that's wrong or the mc is being manipulative. There is room to not be (much) of a walking disaster and just try to help those around you the best you can (even if the mc still makes bad choices for the story sake).

But, because this is meant to be a bit more realistic than the average game, I understand it can feel uncomfortable at times. And that it's easier for the player to lose immersion if something is more unrealistic and out of place.

One thing mentioned somewhere above that I'll fix in the future is that part that forces the player to choose a crush. It was a mistake to not allow the player to simply pick no one.
 

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Hmm first of all I think I have done worse things in real life than what the MC here did...:sneaky: To be honest I don't find anything really bad what my MC did. I play him as totally submissive and so far I see him as a positive influence on anybody, besides himself maybe. Although seeing it as negative for himself would be only from the view of someone not enjoying femdom. ;) Personally I would see a dominant MC more critical though, but reading your spoilers you considered them to be less bad. Anyway maybe your disconnect comes simply from not having the mindset/desires for maledom and especially femdom content?:unsure: I might characterize you wrong, but nice, balanced vanilla options might be your preference and the focus hasn't been on these I guess.
Still from the options I have seen (haven't really played all of them) my impression was that it is quite possible to play through the game as an honorable "vanilla" guy.
hmm you make good points there.
I am a switch, with a stronger tendency to serve the others already from the get-go, but never to the point of becoming a slave. In the name of playfulness I can do many things, I can either be dominant or dominated (preferably both), as long as it's clear that it's something of the moment, not a contract for the future (I do however tend to establish relations where I am more frequently in the position of a giver and supporter).
So in the game, the dominant roles I played, they felt more like something of the moment, and that both parties understood that. But in the sub roles to me it sounded like that wasn't so clear. For example, for me it's completely crazy how with Deb what starts as a simple foot massage, can escalate crazily to a compromise of having no orgasms for a week. I'm glad that there's the option to say no to that (and fairly assertively so).
Deb being into femdom is all cool, but she has to learn a lot, she's not a good dom (yet?). She doesn't pre-establish boundaries, safe words, etc. She tends to impose her will while having very little notion of what she's actually doing. A good dom has tact and self control, and the MC should know better than to being a powerless enabler of a total rookie.

... plus her romantic dream TM (walt disney romance mentality) of wanting one single person to complements her in every field is rather annoying, if not scary in this case. And well, unfortunately this is indeed quite realistic of the game. Most people do see the world that way :/


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omg it's so weird to see me ranting like this about fictional characters hahaha
proof that this game is quite well made ;)
 
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