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Who knew a bush could cause such a stir? But hey, let's not beat around the bush – options are always a good thing!
I interpreted this as a broken translation yet quite funny in its intent as a 'typical ntr/no-ntr' warfare satire.
You make it sound like it's really easy and I just don't do it out of pettiness.
I get it that you, as a player, don't need to think about how that would work, but let me show you what goes through my mind when deciding such things.
Yes, it's true that I'd already have that one animation done, but do you mean I should give the option to toggle just that single scene? And that in all past and future animations Kim keeps the bush, and there's no option for those? What's the point of that?
So, I assume you mean that I should remake all past Kim animations and also start making two versions of all future animations. And that's already quite more work, as you can imagine. But okay.
The next thing to consider is if, when you say that "That sort of thing really should be a choice", do you mean that you want a choice to take away the things you don't like? Or if you mean that all players should have a choice to have it the way they, personally, want? Because, if it's the first, I'm afraid it seems a bit egocentric... No disrespect, but why should the opinion of one player be more valuable than another one?
So... if I'm getting it right, that means that you think I should add options to have bushes or not to every single girl... is that it?
After all, if "that sort of thing really should be a choice", then the players that like bushes should also be allowed to toggle them ON for Jen, Lea, Deb, Emma, Olivia and Bri that currently don't have none... Or they having more option doesn't matter? Only matters that you have options? I mean, they will ask for it when they know I did it for Kim, should I ignore them and only listen to you?
Since you seem to be a reasonable person that has always been cordial in this thread, I'll assume that you mean I should remake all past animations for all girls, to have a version with bush and one without, and that, from now on, I should also start making 2 versions for all future animations. To give everyone "a choice for that sort of thing". Which "really should be a choice".
I mean, you said it yourself:
All right, then. Time to remake most of past animations and doing two versions of all animations of future updates
Without all that extra work, Chapter 8 part 1 could be out in like 4/5 months and be longer with more different scenes, but with all those extra options, all the past animations that need to be remake, all the required dual versions for the new animations, it might take me, like, 7/8 months and have less scenes...
But I'm sure that, when it'll be released, you wont say:
But, instead, you'll say something like "It's a small update that took 8 months, but no problem at all because now everyone has the choice to toggle ON/OFF a bush for all girls, for every scene in the game. So, the extra time/effort is totally worth it, because more options is always a good thing!"
And everyone else that plays the game will also be super happy and not mind at all the extra development time. Because there's nothing more important they want me to do with my time, than making every animation with bushes and without them.
So, yeah... this is the kind of thinking that goes through my mind when someone asks for such a simple thing that should really be a choice.
Let me know if I was able to change your mind, or if you still think it's a good idea. Contrary to what others might say, I've been "persuaded" plenty of times before, when the idea is good. But you need to be reasonable. Tell me about your development plan for such a feature.
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Probably because it smelled like malice and betrayal.
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Damn this dev is complicating so much, what the hell. You dont have to remake past scenes or add only bushes or no bushes. Guy probably meant make 2 scenes for only Kim in future scenes, with on/off bush. And then you make it sound its gonna take 5 months for a single bush option, like god damn. Calling him egoistic and shit, this dev crazy man.
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Been inactive as of late, but just wanted to say, if anyone here already played the first half of chapter 7, this update is really underwhelming on the Kim path and you should probably skip it if she's your main LI. I respect this dev for all the hard work he's putting in, and I know this game has MANY paths, but I'm only interested in femdom and I have 3 main saves - a Kim's slave save, an Emma/Deb save, and an Emma/Deb/Jen one, and while I'm sure there will be some hot scenes on those other paths, I first tried the Kim route because I was excited about seeing the annoucement unfold and the 2 of them finally start their relationship and, well, none of that happened. In fact if you are on the Kim femdom path there isn't a single sex scene in this update, not even a text message conversation with her, and it all takes about half an hour/40 minutes max to read through.
Again, I will go back and play the other paths and I'm sure I'll like it more, and I'll definitely keep watching this game, but, that said, it is probably the most disappointing update thus far for anyone who loves Kim content...
Again, I will go back and play the other paths and I'm sure I'll like it more, and I'll definitely keep watching this game, but, that said, it is probably the most disappointing update thus far for anyone who loves Kim content...
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Well, if I counted correctly, there wasn't a single maledom scene overall in 7.2, so you are complaining on a very high level...
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What do you mean by "complaining on a very high level"? I guess this update is even more underwhelming if you only enjoy maledom then - I was only speaking from my perspective...
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Crap, I forgot the Emma scene, I've seen it in the gallery, but I'm not interested in her bratty spiel, so I was wrong. I wouldn't go so far to call it underwhelming, as clearly most of the maledom scenes have been in 7.1, maybe label it as not optimal planing.
Long story short: So I have waited for like... almost 3 months, and there is only text reading without any scenes? Do I understand it correctly?
It feels a bit crummy to go after a girl that our friend Jamie was into and is clearly still a bit hung up on, only a few weeks after they break up, but goddamn was it satisfying to be there for Olivia in her moment of need and have a breakthrough with her.
I was especially glad that we had the choice to pursue her romantically even if we chose only to be friends up until this point. The revelation of the illness was a pivotal point in her character arc and this chapter is showing some excellent signs of growth and progression in her character. She is easily my second favourite love interest behind Jen, and probably the only one I would go for IRL since dating Jen would be breaking every ethical boundary.
Man, I LOVE the vanilla paths in this game. Despite what the dev may say or think, they are super fulfilling to experience.
I was especially glad that we had the choice to pursue her romantically even if we chose only to be friends up until this point. The revelation of the illness was a pivotal point in her character arc and this chapter is showing some excellent signs of growth and progression in her character. She is easily my second favourite love interest behind Jen, and probably the only one I would go for IRL since dating Jen would be breaking every ethical boundary.
Man, I LOVE the vanilla paths in this game. Despite what the dev may say or think, they are super fulfilling to experience.
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The "scenes" depend on the route you're on, but no it's not "only" text reading. There are pictures also
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Feels like a regression to her character development if she actually lies, but we'll see.
You misunderstood big time.
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MrSilverLust Congratulations on this masterpiece, I only discovered this game recently and I am amazed by the work you've done on it. There is so much in it that it surprises me, it even includes chess moves, and the most incredible thing is that it has a simple sandbox mode. I don't know anything about you, but I hope you succeed in your professional life because you've shown that you are competent in what you do.
I would love to use the Cuckquean skill on Emma. Preferably by having sex with Bri right in front of her then getting Emma to join in. It would satisfy Emma's kink by giving her the Manly hate sex that she needs. And it would satisfy Bri's kink by giving her the Honorable adventurous sex that she needs. Everybody wins.
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It was nice to see some more branching development for Emma's maledom route. Instead of just purely hate-sex, the posting photos task was something that usually was almost solely for Lea to do, but it was neat seeing how it was introduced into Emma's route. Hopefully that gets expanded upon with the corruption aspect of Emma's maledom route, either with more degrading photos or tasks.
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Look, I get it. Adding options means more work. But let's be real here - if you're gonna complain about the workload now, why didn't you think about it before? Seems like an oversight from the get-go.
And you've already got Kim's scene done? Great, then if it's such a big issue to redo it, then leave it alone. But if you're willing to slow down the pace and go through the hassle, then yeah, there absolutely should be a choice here.
But hey, it's not just about me. Offering choices isn't just some fancy feature, it's about respecting the player base. People want to feel like they have a say in what they're experiencing. And if that means more work for you, well, that's the price of keeping your audience happy.
And let's not forget, if you're gonna offer it for one character, it's only fair to offer it for everyone else. So yeah, it means doubling your workload. But isn't it better to do it now than deal with complaints later? Plus, it could attract more players who appreciate the customization.
Bottom line, yeah, it's a pain. But if you don't want to fall behind and lose players, options are what's gonna keep them hooked and keep players coming back, options are a must. So it's just one of those things you have to suck up and get done.
So, no, you haven't exactly changed my mind. Offering choices might not be the most glamorous part of development, but it's damn important. And as for a development plan? How about we focus on listening to player feedback and making improvements where we can? Seems like a solid plan to me.