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saddlface

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Been inactive as of late, but just wanted to say, if anyone here already played the first half of chapter 7, this update is really underwhelming on the Kim path and you should probably skip it if she's your main LI. I respect this dev for all the hard work he's putting in, and I know this game has MANY paths, but I'm only interested in femdom and I have 3 main saves - a Kim's slave save, an Emma/Deb save, and an Emma/Deb/Jen one, and while I'm sure there will be some hot scenes on those other paths, I first tried the Kim route because I was excited about seeing the annoucement unfold and the 2 of them finally start their relationship and, well, none of that happened. In fact if you are on the Kim femdom path there isn't a single sex scene in this update, not even a text message conversation with her, and it all takes about half an hour/40 minutes max to read through.

Again, I will go back and play the other paths and I'm sure I'll like it more, and I'll definitely keep watching this game, but, that said, it is probably the most disappointing update thus far for anyone who loves Kim content...
I'm also on the Kim femdom path, but I think its a little unfair to criticize the dev for lack of progress on every path in this update. He has said multiple times that he is trying to advance every path in every chapter. But that is why he split chapter 7 into two parts. He did half the paths in part one and the other half in part 2. As much as I would like more content on my specific kinks with every update, Kim's story was advanced at the end of 7.1. There is more good femdom content in 7.2 however in the form of Emma's strapon scene. It irks me a little that I cannot get both of those on a single playthrough, but the scenario feature makes it so you don't have to do a completely separate playthrough I guess.
 

Gicoo

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It irks me a little that I cannot get both of those on a single playthrough
Full submission to Kim let MC break up with the other girls, but if he doesn't commit fully and let her stay with Pete, he can submit with Kim and keep submitting to all the others (as of yet) like Deb or Emma.
 

saddlface

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Full submission to Kim let MC break up with the other girls, but if he doesn't commit fully and let her stay with Pete, he can submit with Kim and keep submitting to all the others (as of yet) like Deb or Emma.
Thanks I did not realize that. Do you happen to know which chapter that choice is made in? I'm guessing that will be a pretty significant difference, however, given the dev seems to be planning on focusing the dedicated Kim sub path on humiliating the mc to the rest of the group going forward.
 

Gicoo

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Thanks I did not realize that. Do you happen to know which chapter that choice is made in? I'm guessing that will be a pretty significant difference, however, given the dev seems to be planning on focusing the dedicated Kim sub path on humiliating the mc to the rest of the group going forward.
End of chapter 5. Either ask her to break up with Pete for you or don't.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Many skills are used multiple times.

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Game won't go on forever.
Thank you for assembling that, so sad to see HONOR tree doesnt get more use :cry:....

And cunning is like I suspected - tons of use for a few then little for others, wheras both manly and sensitive are pretty well distributed.



It would be so tempted if I were dev to put in secret easter eggs, like if you happened to have 'discipline', 'misogyny', and 'pleasing', when kim comes on to the player, mc gives her a strong pimp backhand...
 
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tioafa4

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Easter egg skill combos would rule. I think they would have to be wild combos, though, so that they wouldn't necessarily come up on a normal playthrough. Bodywriting + Assplay + Humiliation lets you competently write a message on your own asscheeks and moon someone.
 

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Yeah, I really like how if you're going the maledom path, aftercare is such an essential skill. You can choose to ignore it, but that path leads straight to Abusive Town, population: the MC. As you mention, the gaslighting incident in the latest chapter in particular is the MC as pure villain, and probably won't end well.

As for balance, I think the femdom options were quicker off the block in the early chapters and also went into slightly more fetish content (chastity n'such), while the maledom content took a bit longer to be developed but has been catching up lately. But most of the game stays fairly vanilla, so if you've been hoping for the femdom to keep escalating, I can see how it could come off as underwhelming.
 

MrSilverLust

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Hopefully I can hit my 91% target this weekend,
You seem ready to start writing that wiki you mentioned before!

89% at 47:10 now. I really want that last 2%. But it's hard to really find it tbh.
I'm not sure what you're missing, it might just be all the no's around the game. Since each sex scene can be refused, I have to write a bit every time for the rejections of every scene. And all the scenes later one that mentioned anything from before also need to have some alternative line in case the player didn't do the earlier scene.

Also, all the break-ups. Not sure if you've seen those.
If you get exclusive with Lea, and don't cheat on her, you need to break-up with all the girls you were seeing before. Same for one of Kim's path. Some girls might already have at least 3 different versions of a break up that happen at different times thanks to different reasons. It has actually been quite annoying to write them all, so I suspect they might take a few percentage points.

You can also unren the files and look through the scripts to see if there's anything obvious that you've missed.

Many skills are used multiple times.
Thank you for assembling that, so sad to see HONOR tree doesnt get more use :cry:....
That table is incomplete btw. It's missing:

9 Hon
10 Sen
6 cun
4 manly

And, while 16 of those are from chapter 7 part 2, which the table hasn't been updated with yet, there are 12 more skill uses that were missed from scenes/variations from earlier updates.


(...) this update is really underwhelming on the Kim path (...) I first tried the Kim route because I was excited about seeing the annoucement unfold and the 2 of them finally start their relationship and, well, none of that happened. In fact if you are on the Kim femdom path there isn't a single sex scene in this update, not even a text message conversation with her, (...)
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. The truth is that Kim is probably the LI with more lines devoted to her in the whole chapter, thanks to that path. If you accept it, the MC has to break up with all the girls. And, since anyone can reach this chapter with any combinations of girls he's seeing, I had to write a break-up bit for each girl. If you were a "man-whore" and were playing with all the girls in that path, you almost couldn't play two ch7 scenes in a row without any reference to Kim, thanks to all the break-ups.

Of course, your save with a solo path for Kim saw none of that and, therefore, she's very absent from the chapter. Perhaps that was a oversight on my part and I should have added something for that circumstance.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Easter egg skill combos would rule. I think they would have to be wild combos, though, so that they wouldn't necessarily come up on a normal playthrough. Bodywriting + Assplay + Humiliation lets you competently write a message on your own asscheeks and moon someone.
Lol exactly, those were my thoughts but they'd have to be combinations players would normally never encounter organically, like "cuck" + "dominant" :LOL:
 
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Joshy92

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The setup for the Jen sharing stuff was really good this update.
I think the payoff is going to be awesome.
 
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Demnor

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Easter egg skill combos would rule. I think they would have to be wild combos, though, so that they wouldn't necessarily come up on a normal playthrough. Bodywriting + Assplay + Humiliation lets you competently write a message on your own asscheeks and moon someone.
I like the idea of easter egg combos, as it is I hoard all my skill points untill I get to a choice where there's a path/skill I would like to take and at that point I commit my points. But with an easter egg bonus that would not be possible.

Oh wait isn't what I just described the Blind Mode you can choose at the very beginnin of your playthrough - duh!! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Bloodguard

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This game needs more attention. It's been on my Steam wish-list for quite some time. Saw it had an update, and was on sale, so picked it up. It won't win any awards for visuals, but the writing is top notch. Very unique skill system, and the inner monologue battles with the personalities are hilarious and terrifying in their accuracy. The evil twin is a bit on the nose, but kudos to the Dev for creating a truly layered and original approach to the dating sim. Good game kid! (y)
I'll leave a Steam review after I finish a few playthroughs, but I'm greatly enjoying it so far. :love:
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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This game needs more attention. It's been on my Steam wish-list for quite some time. Saw it had an update, and was on sale, so picked it up. It won't win any awards for visuals, but the writing is top notch. Very unique skill system, and the inner monologue battles with the personalities are hilarious and terrifying in their accuracy. The evil twin is a bit on the nose, but kudos to the Dev for creating a truly layered and original approach to the dating sim. Good game kid! (y)
I'll leave a Steam review after I finish a few playthroughs, but I'm greatly enjoying it so far. :love:
Yeah unfortunately dev announced somewhat recently the end is in sight, as in maybe less than a year or two of updates and it's done-zos, which is a damn shame because so few games have such wide breadth.
 
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Bloodguard

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Yeah unfortunately dev announced somewhat recently the end is in sight, as in maybe less than a year or two of updates and it's done-zos, which is a damn shame because so few games have such wide breadth.
Well, there seem to be a ton of branching paths. The longer a game with these goes on, the more time consuming and challenging each update is. Also, for players who don't follow a lot of paths, it actually seems like less content for more wait, so they get restless. It seems a good length with lots of content for what it is. While I enjoy it immensely, I don't think it should be some sweeping epic covering years of in game time, as well as Dev time.
What surprises me, is that even though I don't do any sharing/femdom/cuck/Sub/NTR stuff, only a few girls are left out, and there is still plenty of content to enjoy. Most games that have those kinds of tags, even when they say the content is avoidable, seem to really be lacking in alternative kinks. I probably never would have checked out this game here due to those tags, so I'm very glad Steam does not use the tag system in as much detail for their adult games. ;)
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Most games that have those kinds of tags, even when they say the content is avoidable, seem to really be lacking in alternative kinks. I probably never would have checked out this game here due to those tags, so I'm very glad Steam does not use the tag system in as much detail for their adult games. ;)
No this game has true variety for sure. You can play a 100% over-the-top alpha path and never have to do anything with the blue tree, (other than hearing MC's inner monologues :LOL:), or a total submissive blue path, or even a fairly vanilla dating-simulator on the gold (orange?) path.

My only complaint on pathing is not enough girls had "middle of the road paths", but since the last few updates, that's starting to change with things like Jen's vanilla path. I don't always want to be forced into either calling a girl my dirty slut, or being a her bitch , sometimes I just want a more chill experience with a hot LI.
 
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merleved

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I won't despair then. Sorry not to mention it earlier. I guess I have gotten used to this happening all of a sudden and it was not until I saw the comment that I felt I wanted to reply.

Thanks for giving us bushlovers a treat and keeping it so.
Thanks for asking to verify. As a fellow bush-lover, I always appreciate other fans who make a point of mentioning the interest that many of us have in 'natural' women in AVNs.

This game is utterly fantastic on multiple levels and I greatly enjoy the depth and narrative. If there were some way (either just as a player option toggle or as part of an actual kink path) that we could get more bush in this game, it'd be an absolute home run for me.
 
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JSimon8668

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Well, there seem to be a ton of branching paths. The longer a game with these goes on, the more time consuming and challenging each update is. Also, for players who don't follow a lot of paths, it actually seems like less content for more wait, so they get restless. It seems a good length with lots of content for what it is. While I enjoy it immensely, I don't think it should be some sweeping epic covering years of in game time, as well as Dev time.
What surprises me, is that even though I don't do any sharing/femdom/cuck/Sub/NTR stuff, only a few girls are left out, and there is still plenty of content to enjoy. Most games that have those kinds of tags, even when they say the content is avoidable, seem to really be lacking in alternative kinks. I probably never would have checked out this game here due to those tags, so I'm very glad Steam does not use the tag system in as much detail for their adult games. ;)
I guess the only real solution is a new game featuring the same skill tree! Back to before all of the branches forces a focus on breadth of content instead of depth.

But honestly, it would be great if other devs took a cue from this one about developing engaging skill systems - instead of the three bars (fem - masc, sub - Dom, pure - corrupt) that always pin femininity to submission and masculinity to domination while having pure act as just a barrier for entry to lewd scenes
 

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So, will Deb ever have actual intercourse with the MC on the submissive path? One person made fun of me for picking the Manly path with Deb. He said, "Ha Ha there only two scenes with Deb on the Manly path. There's like six or seven on the Sensitive path. What do you get from Deb in those two scenes that you don't get from her in the other six or seven scenes?" I answered, "Pussy." That shut him up. :sneaky:
 
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dolfe67

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So, will Deb ever have actual intercourse with the MC on the submissive path? One person made fun of me for picking the Manly path with Deb. He said, "Ha Ha there only two scenes with Deb on the Manly path. There's like six or seven on the Sensitive path. What do you get from Deb in those two scenes that you don't get from her in the other six or seven scenes?" I answered, "Pussy." That shut him up. :sneaky:
We don't play a sub path for pussies though :HideThePain:
 
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