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AL.d

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Had a chance to play a little through Ch 6, and so far I have to say I'm liking the game, and really liking the characters. Virtually all of the LIs are people you can get attracted to.

HOWEVER, having said that - the game has one underlying major flaw in my opinion. If I want a girl to top ME for some anal play, the only way to accomplish that is to be a sub who takes demoralizing comments and actions. There's no "fun bottom" path to follow with anyone that I've seen. Sometimes in the bedroom (in real life) you like to be the top, other times you like to be the bottom, but it doesn't HAVE to be a permanent sub/bottom where you're demoralized by your partner. That's where I feel Emma's (and Debs) paths are both essentially far too black and white, and have zero leeway.

I was literally on the verge of hitting "Quit" for good when I learned that dominating Deb the first time meant she'd never allow me to be a sub/botom in a fun way. That choice locks the MC into a path that doesn't deviate until the end of the game, doesn't warn you, and leaves zero options for sub play with a girl that's a natural Dom.

It'd be nice to see both of their paths opened up a little bit so they aren't so pidgeon-holed into a straight line when you choose a path with them. Allowing that to happen (via learned skills) would be a welcome change to the game. A little like when we get to choose if we'll get a blowjob or titjob with a girl via the skills/choices made available. If a girl is a natural Dom, then allow us the choice to be their sub, irrespective of which path we chose with them initially.
I get what you are saying but this is already offering far more variety that most games out there. Adding even more options, would make this even harder for a dev who already seems to be struggling a bit to make it all work as it is now.
 

Jaga Telesin

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I get what you are saying but this is already offering far more variety that most games out there. Adding even more options, would make this even harder for a dev who already seems to be struggling a bit to make it all work as it is now.
I'm not asking for more options (or more scenes). I'm asking to allow us to utilize earned/bought skills at our choice, instead of being railroaded into a "path" that has hardcoded scenes behind it for the rest of the game.

The skills and their use in opening up scenes is great - the paths are not at all great.
 
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Kakasan

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What a good game my friends I played until chapter 6, a part of me felt sorry for betraying Jen and Léia,
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I hope that in the next updates there will be content to manipulate Paige, that chubby girl.
 
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What a good game my friends I played until chapter 6, a part of me felt sorry for betraying Jen and Léia,
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I hope that in the next updates there will be content to manipulate Paige, that chubby girl.
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Bloodguard

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Is there a path to make Jen your Girlfriend like there is with Lea, or does she not want to commit to MC? :unsure:
 

Dessolos

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Is there a path to make Jen your Girlfriend like there is with Lea, or does she not want to commit to MC? :unsure:
yet to play the update so not sure if anything has changed. However even tho the character sheet doesn't give her the girlfriend label. I honestly would argue she is your girlfriend it's just it cant be made public for several years so makes sense the character sheet doesn't reflect it.
 

Kakasan

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Is there a path to make Jen your Girlfriend like there is with Lea, or does she not want to commit to MC? :unsure:
I played the cheat path until chapter 6, basically Jen and Leia become girlfriends from MC.
However, he warns that he cannot make it official for a while.
 

TanyaC

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I don't understand why the tag NTR since the protagonist here is a guy alone, NTR works for boyfriends or husband and wife, unless he induces his patients to commit treason if they are married, if not that, this tag should be removed.
 

Dessolos

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Last time I played this was v0.5.1 and I remember there was no real plot besides exploring kinks, did anything change? Is there any exciting action/plot?
nah this game never had any plot to begin with it and still doesn't imo. It's just a slice of life game about the characters and their life's nothing more. I forget where 0.5 left off but I recall Oliva got a decent bit of character development. I also felt Jen and Emma branches started to get good 2 but not alot of new character development compared to Oliva. I forget about the rest.
 

Bloodguard

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I don't understand why the tag NTR since the protagonist here is a guy alone, NTR works for boyfriends or husband and wife, unless he induces his patients to commit treason if they are married, if not that, this tag should be removed.
You literally Cuck a dude with his fiancé while he is in a chastity cage. Also bang a chick while she is on the phone with her boyfriend, cum in her mouth and have her kiss him. Both of these could be considered NTR. It does not have to be the MC getting NTRd, as it has various meanings.
Dev also does not have control of the tags on top of the page, just the ones under the Genre Spoiler, and it's not there.
 

Kakasan

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You literally Cuck a dude with his fiancé while he is in a chastity cage. Also bang a chick while she is on the phone with her boyfriend, cum in her mouth and have her kiss him. Both of these could be considered NTR. It does not have to be the MC getting NTRd, as it has various meanings.
Dev also does not have control of the tags on top of the page, just the ones under the Genre Spoiler, and it's not there.
Maybe Moderators are considering sharing Equal to NTR.


There is 1 LI that was shared with a friend(
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another is heading this way too(
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), but it totally depends on the player's path, everything can be avoided.
 

osanaiko

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I've been playing around with the Scenarios. I'm not entirely certain that scenarios don't have different dialogue from the main game. But they are a really nice streamlined way to get through things. Especially if you're hunting for dialogue percentage.
I can tell you for sure that there is no extra dialogue in any of the code that implement the Scenario feature, in fact the opposite is true: There is some skipping of dialogue for better "continuity" between the scenes in the scenario playthrough.

The "final 10%" barrier will be hard to complete. This is due to many subtle dialogue variation branches, often based on choices made 2 or three chapters previously. The dialogue in these variations is often quite similar and have many lines that are identical between the branches, so there's no easy way to see which branch you are seeing from the player perspective until you hit the difference.

More than any other game I've ever seen, NIF is implemented so that previous choices do have effects all the way down the line, at the dialogue level if not at the route level. It's an accomplishment that I wish more players would appreciate rather than being grumpy that their specific kink is not catered for in more detail. MrSL is but one man, battling the many headed hydra that is the combinatorial explosion a truly choice-responsive game represents.
 
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camube

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I can tell you for sure that there is no extra dialogue in any of the code that implement the Scenario feature, in fact the opposite is true: There is some skipping of dialogue for better "continuity" between the scenes in the scenario playthrough.

The "final 10%" barrier will be hard to complete. This is due to many subtle dialogue variation branches, often based on choices made 2 or three chapters previously. The dialogue in these variations is often quite similar and have many lines that are identical between the branches, so there's no easy way to see which branch you are seeing from the player perspective until you hit the difference.

More than any other game I've ever seen, NIF is implemented so that previous choices do have effects all the way down the line, at the dialogue level if not at the route level. It's an accomplishment that I wish more players would appreciate rather than being grumpy that their specific kink is not catered for in more detail. MrSL is but one man, battling the many headed hydra that is the combinatorial explosion a truly choice-responsive game represents.
Yeah NiF would be an amazing CYOA game once it's finished.
 
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