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There is a misogynist and a humiliation fetish path for Emma for example.
So I'm wondering if Deb will continue with only one path or if will be possible to open another
That sounds like a dumb rule. So you're telling me that something like this
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- Jun 6, 2017
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a bit much focus on the girls?
the mc looks like plastic sometimes
the mc looks like plastic sometimes
A few comments about my impressions with the last chapters. For whom it may concern.
First of all, i am enjoing this game very much. I believe that author is doing a great job. The plot, the characters, the music choice - sheer class.
Game has a very cosy feeling and characters are truly alive. I felt a lot of amusement just by seeing the pep-talk from Jamie (and overall he is a guy that casually brings up your mood in almost every scene, i can't look at his appearances without a smile).
I would also like to commend the losing in poker scene - i was tingling from how intense was that.
Yet, there are some things that left me troubled.
1. In many bed scenes MC starts giving psychology lections out of the blue, ruining whatsoever erotic or romanting mood i might have. It happend with Emma, it happened with Jen (several times), and each time it was very cringy. Like, you have a girl lying next to you, she confesses something very intimate, everything is very cute, and suddenly MC decides to give a 5 minute speech about psychology. WTF? No offence, i enjoy how the game is done in the informative way, with all that psychology and chess details, but i can't picture a real person to act like that in such intimate moments. Especially, when he is all turned on, stroking in front of Emma. Felt like absurd-comedy-level nonsense.
2. The chapter 4 started strong, but lacked any culmination, any cliffhanger, anything like that at all. And it leaves me feeling quite dissapointed. No catharsis.
Chapter 1 had a very intense ending. End of Chapter 2 highlighted the return of Emma, which was very intriguing. End of chapter 3 left me waiting for the holiday trip, and i was expecting something massive is going to happen since all the characters are gathering in one place. But as a result, nothing really happened. I understand, that the chapter is called "Calm before the storm" for a reason, but something intriguing still needs to be present to look forward for the next chapter and to relieve from the long way walked. It was fine to chill a bit after extreme Chapter 1 ending, but now it feels underwhelming, like if all the last 3 chapters could be named "Calm before the storm". I currently have nothing to wait for, everything is just boringly calm and at peace.
3. While the Emma scene was hot, it felt quite awkward that MC decided to open all his cards and give up their game completely. Eh, if i wanted him to lose, it doesn't mean that i wanted him to start actively humiliate himself and confess everything. I wanted their game to keep going. Do i have to skip that scene entirely then? It doesn't feel very nice. I would love to have more choice in that scene about how MC would act - to confess that he enjoys it, or to pretend that he doesn't.
Anyway, looking forward for the next chapter. I hope Kim will indeed get more attention, because she is the most intriguing character in my opinion, really well written. It's really fun to interact with her, but shamefully she doesn't do much in chapter 4 no matter what path you take with her. I believe her potential is very high, since she is actually a somewhat antagonistic character, and it has a lot of contrast with naive shy student girls like Lea and Jen, which you have to interact with too much, eventually getting bored from this type.
Best of luck!
First of all, i am enjoing this game very much. I believe that author is doing a great job. The plot, the characters, the music choice - sheer class.
Game has a very cosy feeling and characters are truly alive. I felt a lot of amusement just by seeing the pep-talk from Jamie (and overall he is a guy that casually brings up your mood in almost every scene, i can't look at his appearances without a smile).
I would also like to commend the losing in poker scene - i was tingling from how intense was that.
Yet, there are some things that left me troubled.
1. In many bed scenes MC starts giving psychology lections out of the blue, ruining whatsoever erotic or romanting mood i might have. It happend with Emma, it happened with Jen (several times), and each time it was very cringy. Like, you have a girl lying next to you, she confesses something very intimate, everything is very cute, and suddenly MC decides to give a 5 minute speech about psychology. WTF? No offence, i enjoy how the game is done in the informative way, with all that psychology and chess details, but i can't picture a real person to act like that in such intimate moments. Especially, when he is all turned on, stroking in front of Emma. Felt like absurd-comedy-level nonsense.
2. The chapter 4 started strong, but lacked any culmination, any cliffhanger, anything like that at all. And it leaves me feeling quite dissapointed. No catharsis.
Chapter 1 had a very intense ending. End of Chapter 2 highlighted the return of Emma, which was very intriguing. End of chapter 3 left me waiting for the holiday trip, and i was expecting something massive is going to happen since all the characters are gathering in one place. But as a result, nothing really happened. I understand, that the chapter is called "Calm before the storm" for a reason, but something intriguing still needs to be present to look forward for the next chapter and to relieve from the long way walked. It was fine to chill a bit after extreme Chapter 1 ending, but now it feels underwhelming, like if all the last 3 chapters could be named "Calm before the storm". I currently have nothing to wait for, everything is just boringly calm and at peace.
3. While the Emma scene was hot, it felt quite awkward that MC decided to open all his cards and give up their game completely. Eh, if i wanted him to lose, it doesn't mean that i wanted him to start actively humiliate himself and confess everything. I wanted their game to keep going. Do i have to skip that scene entirely then? It doesn't feel very nice. I would love to have more choice in that scene about how MC would act - to confess that he enjoys it, or to pretend that he doesn't.
Anyway, looking forward for the next chapter. I hope Kim will indeed get more attention, because she is the most intriguing character in my opinion, really well written. It's really fun to interact with her, but shamefully she doesn't do much in chapter 4 no matter what path you take with her. I believe her potential is very high, since she is actually a somewhat antagonistic character, and it has a lot of contrast with naive shy student girls like Lea and Jen, which you have to interact with too much, eventually getting bored from this type.
Best of luck!
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dub con is dubious consent. It isn't hardcore non-con (flat out rape) but is less than enthusiastic consensual sex. For example if your boss says "have sex with me or I fire you" that isn't rape in most legal jurisdictions but its no fully consensual.
Also Patreon lets you skate with a minimal amount of creativity. Darktoz got away with full on snuff, torture and rape by saying this game is about people cosplaying and telling a story.
Just found and downloaded this yesterday and gotta say it was a good ride. The skill point/tree system for me seems to work perfectly and even with a lot of options, I find it easy to understand. I've yet to be short points for a specific skill I required for a scene, and I'm interested to see how everyone's kinks develop on different routes. Really want more time with some of the other girls however such as Bri and Kim. Can't wait for future updates. Keep up the good work!
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The rape part is bullshit. Darktoz had to rework his projects so that the characters have to give consent before sexual acts. He even talked about it on patreon after they had taken his page down. maybe smaller projects can get away with it but noncon sex is a no go for patreon, no matter how much you say it is cosplay.
- Jul 4, 2017
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We're kinda heading off topic here gentlefreaks... This whole side-track started when ninjaman expressed his wish that it might contain some content related to his interest of "dubious consent".
Nothing is Forever currently has no content related to non-consensual sex.
And to be honest, I like it that way.
Nothing is Forever currently has no content related to non-consensual sex.
And to be honest, I like it that way.
- Apr 14, 2019
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Hey MrSilverLust !
I wanted to give back in some small way as thanks for your awesome game, at least until I can afford some more material support. So, I did some proofreading - this is from 2 playthroughs, covering at least 93% of the text (according to the options menu stat). It's a lot - small mistakes mostly! - and there are probably still some errors that I missed somewhere, but I hope you find this helpful! Tbh this took me a couple days lol
Again, hope this was helpful!
As an unrelated sidenote, I really like the body variations in the main cast. Bri's body shape is so voluptuous, Jen's fairy-like features are fittingly adorable, Deb's eyes are mesmerizing (as are her nipples), I love how Lea constantly has a tantalizing peek at the top of her buttcrack on display (this is such an underutilized eye-catcher in these types of games - these and thongslips [maybe Mel could utilize thongslips? I only mention her since she's a blank slate... Olivia has these somewhat already with her bikini so maybe it would fit her appeal more, idk]), and Kim has an incredibly cute belly button (so tiny! so kissable! since we'd have to kneel to lick it, I hope she's willing to "force" us someday [but that's just me]). I like Emma's pouty lips too. The only one that doesn't quite stand out to me is Olivia - not to say she isn't attractive, because her personality is awesome (except the nasty smoking, but thankfully there's an option to cut that); it's just that her most distinctive feature is her nose stud, which is... there on her face. Doesn't do much for me. Perhaps the thongslip idea would work to distinguish her more after all... But that's neither here nor there, my point is I think you did a great job varying up the love interests!
I realize this is entering dead horse territory, but I also have to admit I found it surprising Jen was interested in submitting to other men - as others said, she seemed to highly value her partners, of which she's had very few, so the fact that she's more okay with seeking out random men to dominate her than considering switching roles once in awhile came as a real shock to me. Still, I get from a technical standpoint you wanted to experiment with the sharing/cuckoldry kink, so while I have to stand on the side of people who read all the explanations and still feel it doesn't vibe with my perception of her character, it is what it is. You do you, always!
Overall, thanks again for the great game! I'm really looking forward to what's coming! The calm before the storm has ended... bring on the thunder!
I wanted to give back in some small way as thanks for your awesome game, at least until I can afford some more material support. So, I did some proofreading - this is from 2 playthroughs, covering at least 93% of the text (according to the options menu stat). It's a lot - small mistakes mostly! - and there are probably still some errors that I missed somewhere, but I hope you find this helpful! Tbh this took me a couple days lol
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Again, hope this was helpful!
As an unrelated sidenote, I really like the body variations in the main cast. Bri's body shape is so voluptuous, Jen's fairy-like features are fittingly adorable, Deb's eyes are mesmerizing (as are her nipples), I love how Lea constantly has a tantalizing peek at the top of her buttcrack on display (this is such an underutilized eye-catcher in these types of games - these and thongslips [maybe Mel could utilize thongslips? I only mention her since she's a blank slate... Olivia has these somewhat already with her bikini so maybe it would fit her appeal more, idk]), and Kim has an incredibly cute belly button (so tiny! so kissable! since we'd have to kneel to lick it, I hope she's willing to "force" us someday [but that's just me]). I like Emma's pouty lips too. The only one that doesn't quite stand out to me is Olivia - not to say she isn't attractive, because her personality is awesome (except the nasty smoking, but thankfully there's an option to cut that); it's just that her most distinctive feature is her nose stud, which is... there on her face. Doesn't do much for me. Perhaps the thongslip idea would work to distinguish her more after all... But that's neither here nor there, my point is I think you did a great job varying up the love interests!
I realize this is entering dead horse territory, but I also have to admit I found it surprising Jen was interested in submitting to other men - as others said, she seemed to highly value her partners, of which she's had very few, so the fact that she's more okay with seeking out random men to dominate her than considering switching roles once in awhile came as a real shock to me. Still, I get from a technical standpoint you wanted to experiment with the sharing/cuckoldry kink, so while I have to stand on the side of people who read all the explanations and still feel it doesn't vibe with my perception of her character, it is what it is. You do you, always!
Overall, thanks again for the great game! I'm really looking forward to what's coming! The calm before the storm has ended... bring on the thunder!
- Jul 4, 2017
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Wow dude, you're gonna put me out of a job!
Great work, I'll take these as chances to learn and keep trying to improve.
Thanks a lot, not only for the proofreading but also for the extensive feedback. I'll review and fix all of that.
This is one of the few places online where I, as a dev, can get a lot of feedback to know what is working or not, and where your concerns about the future are. That's valuable and very appreciated. So, thank you all that take your time to write lengthy comments/reviews that let me know your opinion on several points of the game.
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Seven great girls with lots and lots of meaningful choices in non-linear paths! Try it and you'll see immediately.
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There has been no need in the gamescript to remove the record of a player decision because the game logic only progresses forward. So there is no convenient function to do it like there is for adding decisions.
However it's easy from the console:
$ mc_choices.remove('ch2_deb_bottom')
If you are trying to hack your saves to unlock certain routes, be aware that there's also a second system that has influence over the game's branches, and that's the "paths".
The code has a number of checks for which relationship path you've chosen with a character i.e. "on_path('jen_exploring_path')". Jen has "professional", "reject", "dom", "sub", and "exploring" paths. So far there's only one for Deb, the "learn" path, which is unlocked with the foot fetish scene in chp 3 and seems to control further progress as her sub.
And back to your first question: the ch2_deb_bull and ch2_deb_bottom options don't really influence the branch flow very much, they seem to be used mainly for dialogue flavor.
- Apr 25, 2020
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Rape is obviously a big NO for patreon (or maybe just as a backstory of a character it's ok, even if you show the flashback), but also blackmail especially if the MC is involved in either side of it.
Recently in Fetish Locator they had to rewrite the part of the game where the MC is blackmailed into sex, because of the patreon police.
Though there is still the possibility of a "fan" patch if you really want some content.
wow,i have goosebumps at the and of 4 episod.Coud someone tell the name of the song in the end ?
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Having played through the game multiple times now during my self-imposed proofreading quest, I admit I spent some time after each run looking ahead and speculating a bit. If this is valuable to you, I'm happy to share my thoughts! But hopefully what will be of more value is whatever kind of discussion doing so can generate. Before I say anything further though, I just want to mention that it's really awesome of you to be open to feedback! I know that can be tough - brutal, even - or a real slog sometimes. So kudos to you, good sir!
Alrighty, boys, if we're talking about wild speculation, I think a good way to go about it is to peek at purchasable skills and character personalities. I consider the purchasable skills as fair guiding lights for the future of routes since they are intrinsically tied to each other; the question of "Who's affiliated with this kink?" is inherently relevant. For the sake of the discussion, I'll treat this like a roulette table, where the skill trees are the board and we all get chips with one main LI each on them. While of course the skills crossover and are blended among multiple routes, what we're gambling on here is: which character feels like the primary one associated with each tier 3 skill? There are 8 LIs (What? 8? Yes... we'll get to that) and 16 skills to choose from. Place your bets!
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Anyways, those are my guesses. Below is my logic, as well as my impressions of the LIs and some of my musings on where they'll go from where they are now. Obviously, we can’t predict the exact events MrSilverLust will put the characters through (we could try, but I won't bother with that), so this is pure “soft” speculation - a vague guess at the primary flavors of the arcs, rather than pinpointing the hard plot points that lead the characters along those arcs. I want to stress that these are simply “interesting possibilities” rather than “what I expect to see” - I think it's important to make that distinction. I’d be happy to see everyone else’s thoughts too: I’m not asserting anything as fact except what I pull straight from the game, so please don’t treat this as though I am. Your guess is as good as mine on where things are headed! Also, saying what we like or hope for can be useful to devs, but imposing expectations would be counterproductive. So, I hope we stay firmly in the realm of speculation and avoid making any demands.
Fair warning, while there aren't multiple 10-page essays lurking below, each character does get at least a paragraph. If you don't want to "waste your time" reading all that... by all means please don't lol. This is supposed to be fun. If it ain't your cup of tea, no worries! Thanks for reading this far, have a good one!
One last note for clarity: I will refer to each character’s "Red Path" and "Blue Path" to distinguish Dominant and Submissive playthroughs. The dev has stated there won’t really be neutral ground due to the exhaustion of creating yet another path for every character, so I won’t bother musing over the admittedly curious cases of mixing Red and Blue significant choices in a character’s route (Jen has some of this, for example). I’ll stick to either pure Red or pure Blue.
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Whew! After all the proofreading and now all the theorycrafting, I think I've finally shook the game's hold on me for a bit. Still, I think it's a testament to how compelling the game is that I was motivated to invest perhaps a bit too much time over the last few days to thinking and talking about it! Great stuff! Now I'm looking forward to everyone else's thoughts. Anyone feeling like betting against me? Where would you put the Cuckquean Crown? What surprises do you think Bri, Olivia, and Mel have in store for us? Please share!
They say the house always wins when it comes to gambling - in this case, I truly hope that's the case. Best regards, MrSilverLust ! And thanks for your hard work, osanaiko ! I sincerely hope you continue to enjoy creating this game - it's a blast to play! Now, to find some way to hibernate until the next release...