You can get some sex scenes with her if you aren't a sub, but it will not lead to anything deeper.
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Bombmaster
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Most girls have two branches so to speak, in her case It appears t be only sub or little bits as you pointed.
She is a cool LI but outside of sub/dom don't deliver. Well Joshy would love to lick her toes probably.
She is a cool LI but outside of sub/dom don't deliver. Well Joshy would love to lick her toes probably.
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Sure, my point is that is just as you pointed a rebound thing. Without a distinct route outside worshiping Deb.
And that makes me sad.
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She is not interested in MC as a sub, that is the whole point. MC can be a lost puppy being abused by her and that is it.
She never asked for a whino as Carl proved to be during her fling with him - the guy was too emotionally scarred by her flower power to get it up at all, the while she gets so many guys hitting on her, that such a dynamic turned her into a sore insufferable looser at the relationship table. She does not deserve actual relationships for the absolutely disgusting way she behaves towards Carl at first, one actual man who put his mind to trying to be there for her, but it spilled into every other guy - MC is a pet for her, absolute tool when she uses him for disgusting pet play - she has no feelings whatsoever, just disdain. feeling sorry for your torturer is just your end of the week kink you try and forget, move on to something you actually like.
She never asked for a whino as Carl proved to be during her fling with him - the guy was too emotionally scarred by her flower power to get it up at all, the while she gets so many guys hitting on her, that such a dynamic turned her into a sore insufferable looser at the relationship table. She does not deserve actual relationships for the absolutely disgusting way she behaves towards Carl at first, one actual man who put his mind to trying to be there for her, but it spilled into every other guy - MC is a pet for her, absolute tool when she uses him for disgusting pet play - she has no feelings whatsoever, just disdain. feeling sorry for your torturer is just your end of the week kink you try and forget, move on to something you actually like.
Too bad.I liked Deb until that first sex scene. Best personality & character model initially imo, but neither dom or sub path did it for me. Tried both. Hers & Carl's story were an implausible mess to me too, tbh. There was some stretching going on and I'm not talking about her vagina. I assume there's no third option with her you can take up further down the line where she doesn't need the heavy mean-streak towards someone in bed? New to the game.
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Quite correct assessment of Deb! There is more than one reason why Lea, Jen and Olivia are the best girls in the game, with Kim also an "inverted" thumbs up, if only for her truthfulness about being bad. While tastes are different and good that they are, these girls are (for me) the best ones in game.
Quite correct assessment of Deb! There is more than one reason why Lea, Jen and Olivia are the best girls in the game, with Kim also an "inverted" thumbs up, if only for her truthfulness about being bad. While tastes are different and good that they are, these girls are (for me) the best ones in game.
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Which is why I worded it "inverted thumbs up". Kim would not be for me, but I like her being truthful about how she is and as you say, fun to roleplay with. It is far more straightforward being with Kim than for instance Emma and Deb, which are infuriating. Kim is an unabashed a..., not nice but something you can work with, but Emma (and Deb) tops it insofar as she is constantly insulting the guy(s) she likes and want to be with.
Thanks. A cucking/cheating route could be hot. Just not the dommy-mommy face-stool "you'll come when I tell you" crap. Not for me. I prefer a loving nymphomaniac slut who feels bad but just can't help herself, collecting dick like Pokemon due to her sex-drive & daddy issues.
So I guess Deb's not for me. Nor Kim, based on first bitchy game impressions & some of the descriptions here. + East Asian look never really did it for me. (Just a personal preference. Don't hate. I know I'm a rarity. It just means more for you IRL).
So, as it stands in current content, do you have to select Submissive to get Jen railed by other guys when admitting your feelings for each other, or is there still a way to get that content with her after selecting Dominant or Vanilla (maybe Vanilla-ish with a swinging offshoot, but without MC needing to grovel in order to get his dick hard)?
Or, as I suspect, there are no (and will never be any, based on the kink tree) sharing routes at all on anything but the sub paths for any NPCs in the game?
In a perfect world (for me), having the green voyeur and silver tongue traits could be used to (mentally) fulfill Jen's need for dominance as you use her submissive nature towards you to share/pimp her out. While at the same time, using honor traits like aftercare, etc, to make sure she's safe & getting a positive experience from it. Or, with an offshoot of Vanilla operating as a Switch role of sorts. I'm assuming Sub is the only way to go for that though.
Or, as I suspect, there are no (and will never be any, based on the kink tree) sharing routes at all on anything but the sub paths for any NPCs in the game?
In a perfect world (for me), having the green voyeur and silver tongue traits could be used to (mentally) fulfill Jen's need for dominance as you use her submissive nature towards you to share/pimp her out. While at the same time, using honor traits like aftercare, etc, to make sure she's safe & getting a positive experience from it. Or, with an offshoot of Vanilla operating as a Switch role of sorts. I'm assuming Sub is the only way to go for that though.
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dontcarewhateverno I think you just gotta play it. Don't stress about the choices, it's simple enough to go back and replay to get where you need (using the easy mode or even all points modes).
Spoiler tags for the rest of my reply as think it's nice to allow newcomers to the game to find stuff out by playing, not ready other people's forum posts (hint: please use spoilers more everybody):
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Thanks. I definitely appreciate the guidance in the spoilers.
As far as "just playing it" or stressing about choices though, I'm partly here or in any such game for the (admittedly edge-case) kinks & don't want to sink my time into a route or game that's not my thing. Trying to figure out if the game or a route in the game have what I'm looking for before playing through or moving on to something else. I'm sure that's the case for others with less common interests too, whereas common harem, dom & sub are all relatively easy to find. Only so much time in the day.
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All good my man, we're here for fun. No issues with anyone enjoying stuff the way they want. The thing that annoys me (this is not pointed at you by any means!) are the entitled whiny-pants types who shout about "this game didn't cater to my exact interest" in the thread.
Now, regards your reasons for asking the original questions: I think there have been a few "how to get scene x/y" posts sometime in the past 10-20 pages of this thread, so maybe if you find that you can get straight to the scenes that interest you. Personally, I don't actually play the game linearly very often any more, I run through the scenes out of order using console commands as part of editing/testing, so I can't help you with the "how to get to path X" questions.
Thanks. I had done some forum searches before posting, but the route that seemed most promising turned out not so much the case for me. So just posting specifically what I was looking for to see if anyone playing through had experienced that seemed like the most logical course.
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The above is from a very positive review that was just added for NIF, and I wanted to clear up some factual misconceptions:
- The major releases have all been 5-6 months apart except the most recent one, which has been delayed because of the Steam release (
- It is my understanding from public and private info from MrSL that the story arc is intended to complete at the 1.0 release, i.e. 4 more releases including the real-soon-now upcoming v0.7 release. If the historic release pacing continues, that puts the ending in mid 2025, 1.5 years from now.
EDIT: I went back and looked at the details of the 0.6.3 (aka "Full Steam Ahead") release, and found that my notes above were wrong; There were additions to the story! Specifically, there were "romance" routes added for two characters who only had sub and dom routes before that point.
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Well, now it is 2 weeks later! How is the situation? Because while it is the first time we have delay after delay, it should not become a regular thing.