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It's unlocked in chapter 15 after finishing this chapter. So you need to play it again or use the mod, i think.
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How would he know she needs rescued? Check her facebook page? "Sydney has checked into Commune prison" She's gone man, she's not coming back
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The whole "female only camp" idea is not a good one, especially with military women. Where are the military men, would they really leave women and children behind alone ? Do you really think they would all turn rapists ? And no other women was wondering where are the men ? Are they all single, lesbian or with dead partner and hating men before arriving except 1 ?
But then you would need another idea for the MC to reunite with Alice in a camp and not stay there.
But then you would need another idea for the MC to reunite with Alice in a camp and not stay there.
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I already had a potential scenario for this and I feel it is quite obvious: The current resources in terms of drinking water and food are simply not enough to accommodate more survivors.
More elegant approaches in this scenario as one could have written Sydney out:
1. Her family is here.
2. possibly some survivors are sick and need medical care. So far the sanctuary only has one vet and she is overwhelmed with the situation for obvious reasons.
Just a few little ideas of mine and I think that's a little more elegant than the given ending.
Sydney could then have been seen off with these last words, "[MC], you saved my life twice and now it's time for me to save as many lives as I can myself."
Something like that.
Yep, this was actually my first thought. Was it an entire military unit of just women? Is this game set in Iran??
A better solution would be to have the camp run by a repressive military regime, because who can't see that happening? Then it becomes a clear choice between the dubious safety of the camp or freedom. It becomes a more realistic scenario which is easier to believe and easier to find reasons for people to act in different ways, because it is closer to reality.
In this scenario, the teacher friend could still want to stay because she is afraid for her young son. What mother would want to chance their young child's safety to the day to day existence of essentially being on the run, living day to day? The arguments for Sydney staying would essentially have been the same, and someone trying to kill the MC to enforce control would still make sense (would actually make more sense). It would shift the dynamic from leaving because the MC can't stay, to leaving because none of them feel safe there, a far better situation, because it makes it feel like the other characters have some agency. We play as the MC so we need to feel his agency, but that doesn't mean that other characters should have none themselves.
I'm not suggesting the story needs a rewrite or anything like that. It's done, we have to move on. But it is clear that the inconsistencies, errors etc are mounting up. It doesn't always feel like this story has been properly storyboarded more than about one update into the future, which would help to maintain a consistent narrative.
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You get the threesome option when you've finished the chapter and then load an older save (e.g. start of ch. 15). When you can choose to "take the long way back..." or "end your patrol" there's now an additional option to "go by the library...". For the other scenes i had to go back to chapter 11 (dunno, if i missed something earlier).
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It really depends. I mean, we never saw inside the compound so it's hard to really work out the set up. It's female led sure but that's not to say there are many in there. All it would take would be a handful of women who know what to do and then train up anyone that comes in that looks like they can handle themselves. So Cassie would be military, one or two others, but the rest of the guards may just be random women who have appeared who have shown to have weapon training.
It's in the mid teens for percentage of the army which is female, slightly higher for guard divisions. The setup looked like a beefed up checkpoint so it's unlike there were a lot of soldiers on guard there to begin with. Or the soldiers saw it was the end of days and discipline collapsed and the women killed the men to defend themselves hence the hatred for men. it's never really fleshed out sadly. But hey, at least we got 30 updates roaming about a school eh?
True, there may not be many, but you won't find any military unit that is 100% female (except for Iran and maybe North Korea to my knowledge, who really do have all female units. Maybe also a few other Islamic states (NOT Islamic State, just to be clear.) because men have to be segregated from women to avoid being tempted obvs). The highest percentage would probably be medical or maybe a support unit like logistics or admin (though obviously not medical in this case as they are short on trained medics), but even then it wouldn't be more than about 50% at most. So you have to figure out how to remove a specific 50% of the unit from the situation. Its just needlessly far fetched and breaks immersion.
I can see the author may have been trying to comment on how its not just men that go crazy when all the rules go out the window, as a sort of counter point to the male bandits that appeared early on, but sadly I don't think it really works in that respect, because it's too easy to get hung up on all the inconsistencies in how the situation was constructed.
I'm conflicted on the school. True it got boring, but the reasoning and justification as to why they were there made sense, which is the exact opposite of the 'commune' as people seem to be calling it.
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I had no issue with how long we spent in the school until we were introduced to different places that would have been a lot more interesting plot wise. When you're spending 4 or 5 updates roaming about a school checking all the windows are closed and then spend 1 update leaving the school, travelling to a new place, travelling to a THIRD place, which just so happens to be a woman only compound staffed by what's left of the military....... it kinda makes the previous updates feel cheap in comparison. And incredibly rushed. The whole episode felt like the end of season episode a show would have if it was being cancelled before it's completed run so the writers have to rush to get all the loose ends tied up. And not only did they NOT really go into detail about the compound, but what they did fill the episode with was just generic trash
The episode went like
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Fucking stellar story telling there.....
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After finishing this update I figured there'd be a lot of mixed opinions on this update, although I'm a bit surprised at some of the more extreme/aggressive ones that have been said. Suggesting a complete rewrite or suggesting you can't become invested in any new characters because of this chapter seems like a huge overreaction. I'll try and be brief with my opinions as things have already been discussed in depth:
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Are some people really so salty that, in a world with actual male-only rape gangs, there is a settlement for women only? And that certain members of said settlement are fucking crazy? There is nothing that they need men for except for reproducing and they don't care about that right now. Survival first.
Sydney staying makes perfect sense if you follow her story: she doesn't want to be alone but she also doesn't want to leave the city. Sure, they want to kill MC because he's a dude, but Syd isn't a dude and she'll be safe and be useful until she finds her family. She is not as attached to the MC, and the MC is not as attached to her, as much as some players are attached to Sydney. She simply doesn't love MC enough to forget about her family. And this should NOT be a surprise to anyone.
Julie staying makes perfect sense for some of the same reasons. She's made a home there with her son. She is safe and her son is safe (for now) and she believes that things will change in the settlement by the time her son's gender becomes an issue.
Neither of them are willing to trade their relative safety for the terrifying uncertainty of a cross-country trip through zombie and rapist-bandit filled territory. And that actually makes sense. Where they are isn't perfect, but it's certainly better than the alternative.
Sydney staying makes perfect sense if you follow her story: she doesn't want to be alone but she also doesn't want to leave the city. Sure, they want to kill MC because he's a dude, but Syd isn't a dude and she'll be safe and be useful until she finds her family. She is not as attached to the MC, and the MC is not as attached to her, as much as some players are attached to Sydney. She simply doesn't love MC enough to forget about her family. And this should NOT be a surprise to anyone.
Julie staying makes perfect sense for some of the same reasons. She's made a home there with her son. She is safe and her son is safe (for now) and she believes that things will change in the settlement by the time her son's gender becomes an issue.
Neither of them are willing to trade their relative safety for the terrifying uncertainty of a cross-country trip through zombie and rapist-bandit filled territory. And that actually makes sense. Where they are isn't perfect, but it's certainly better than the alternative.
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I hope for Sydney she doesn't have male family members because they can be killed on sight (as almost has been the MC)...
In male only rape gangs there are no good people, but in this female only camp there seems to be good people (at least Julie and Alice). I can't conceive every good woman would hate all men (their husbands/boyfriends/teen or adult sons) because of a few rapists, and could think their loved ones would leave them. That's just a weak point of the story
And I'm not salty about Julie and Sydney's reactions, but it would be more acceptable in a better set-up. I even expected Sydney to die in the school fire if you made a bad decision, but it's a linear story and don't have this much branching
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Well, the only known trigger-happy guard is already dead, so they'd just be warned to stay out. Syd would then presumably leave with her family if her father or brother were with them.
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That we know of. We saw one trigger happy guard and one who wasn't, that's not a great ratio.
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To be fair, none of the guards up on the bridge behind the barrier seemed to be pointing their rifles at the MC, so the ratio is better than 50/50!
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One thing that I didn't think about until now, but just how tall and imposing is the MC? Has it been stated in the game?
I'm pretty sure both Carol and Naomi are short and come up to his chin while standing, so if we say they are about 5', then the MC is about 6'2". This puts Sydney at about 5'7", so I think that's a decent ballpark height.
So this dude is 6'2", fit, and heavily armed.
He's pretty intimidating. And given what he did to a woman with better training simply due to his superior height, weight, and strength....
Yeah, the women have legitimate cause for concern.
I'm pretty sure both Carol and Naomi are short and come up to his chin while standing, so if we say they are about 5', then the MC is about 6'2". This puts Sydney at about 5'7", so I think that's a decent ballpark height.
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So this dude is 6'2", fit, and heavily armed.
He's pretty intimidating. And given what he did to a woman with better training simply due to his superior height, weight, and strength....
Yeah, the women have legitimate cause for concern.
Yikes, "heartless ass" because I don't think a kid being added to the group in a zombie porn game is a good idea? Lol ok. I agree with most of your post before that though. However, MC has shown he can barely take care of himself and the girls he already has, why add more especially a child? We both know how it would end... the kid would be a constant nuisance until it got dead and then Julie would be broken. If Julie didn't have a kid and wasn't an idiot I would have taken her on in a heartbeat though.
I have a feeling we will have our hands full with Naomi and Alice in the next update anyway. Naomi already "ran away" at the compound to be with MC because of Alice and Alice probably has a TBI. We'll just have to see how it plays out.
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Also like to add Julie herself states she has a lot of support inside this little community including between the armed guards. She and her son are safe and Julie holds some power on that place, why she would sacrifice that for a ride through zombie/raiders country?
Truth be told Jack has been know to make mistakes before. Like staying way too long on his apartment waiting for things to get better or keep using his loud car instead of looking for something with more space for people and provisions and that didn't waste so much fuel.
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What I personally cant get past is that we had to trade one harem member for another.
I do not care about any sort of justification, I just want Syd back and I do not care what story nonsense we have to pull to get her back, I'm already believing everyone being fine with a suspiciously absent male population, I can absolutely believe Syd find's some word her parents are already dead from another of the survivors a few weeks into her stay at the Female Camp and decides to try and find Jack.