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What type of content are you here for?

Thank you to all patrons who participated in the poll, I think I have all the information I was looking for. Just FYI this poll will not affect how I have been and continue to do my content for the foreseeable future.

But, I would be remiss if I didn't state the game is much more than "bonus" content for me, as one person replied it was for them. Which is ok, that's how they see it and if it's how you see it that's fine too, but I just want people to know I don't see it that way. Something you are passionate about and create yourself will always mean more than content you do for someone else. Not saying I don't like the change of pace modding and PDF's bring.


I haven't done one of these polls in a while and I just want to see where things stand, since I think it's probably shifted some. I'm only allowing one response on this one. Thanks for those who participate.


One Day at a Time 55%

Walkthroughs and Mods 45%


Poll ended Apr 9, 2022 31 votes total
 
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Zoey Raven

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Recent poll results:


What type of content are you here for?

Thank you to all patrons who participated in the poll, I think I have all the information I was looking for. Just FYI this poll will not affect how I have been and continue to do my content for the foreseeable future.

But, I would be remiss if I didn't state the game is much more than "bonus" content for me, as one person replied it was for them. Which is ok, that's how they see it and if it's how you see it that's fine too, but I just want people to know I don't see it that way. Something you are passionate about and create yourself will always mean more than content you do for someone else. Not saying I don't like the change of pace modding and PDF's bring.


I haven't done one of these polls in a while and I just want to see where things stand, since I think it's probably shifted some. I'm only allowing one response on this one. Thanks for those who participate.


One Day at a Time 55%

Walkthroughs and Mods 45%


Poll ended Apr 9, 2022 31 votes total
Can you fix the typos at the top? Should take out one of the "be" and put "If" Before "I". I corrected it on patreon, but it's driving me nuts. :) I just corrected it here in my reply, so I guess no need, but I continue to appreciate you guys sharing this information since it's public anyway! Well the poll wasn't, but the results were.
 
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Can you fix the typos at the top? Should take out one of the "be" and put "If" Before "I". I corrected it on patreon, but it's driving me nuts. :) I just corrected it here in my reply, so I guess no need, but I continue to appreciate you guys sharing this information since it's public anyway! Well the poll wasn't, but the results were.
Done! (y)
 

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Zoey Raven, Thanks for this game. It has helped me remember why I am sober for 20 years now. Granted I may be on the Marijuana Maintenance Program, But Smack and white as well as meth where my go to drugs for the longest. I am greatful for the 12 steps and glad I am standing on my own 2 feet because of it. Life is a little easier living as an addict, because of this.
Thank you for making this game. Keep up the good work Sir.
 
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Hi,

is there an overview of routes? I am a stupid romantic and wonder if there is a faithful only Lydia route + sober? He always talks about getting in Marys pants, so I wonder if I have to change my mindset to "fuck'em all"...

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Hi,

is there an overview of routes? I am a stupid romantic and wonder if there is a faithful only Lydia route + sober? He always talks about getting in Marys pants, so I wonder if I have to change my mindset to "fuck'em all"...

Regards
This has been answered in the thread, first sex with most girls is on the house, after that you can be with just Lyida (First sex with Mary is NOT on the house). The PDF walkthrough is your friend. Lydia will never have a problem with you wanting to be with other girls. The game is very much an ensemble cast and would not work without the rest of the girls. That being said you can only have sex with Lydia after what I mentioned above, the first time with most of the other women.

However you can't just say I'm not gonna go on dates with X girl or whatever. Not that type of game, nor did I want it to be, they are still gonna be friendly and flirt with you, you WILL be able to pick single girl paths at the end.

Note: Please refer people to this post for anyone who sees it. I'm gonna start just typing it's already been answered in the thread. Because I've wrote this so many times.
 
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Hi,

is there an overview of routes? I am a stupid romantic and wonder if there is a faithful only Lydia route + sober? He always talks about getting in Marys pants, so I wonder if I have to change my mindset to "fuck'em all"...

Regards
Another part to your question I didn't really answer, is you have to remember him and Mary used to get it on in high school, whether or not you choose to be with her now or not, there's that history. As the game goes on Mary will eventually give you a "Are we just gonna be friends, if that's so I can handle it" choice. (Without spoiling too much). But, she will continue to still be your best friend because you grew up together and all that.
 

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Another part to your question I didn't really answer, is you have to remember him and Mary used to get it on in high school, whether or not you choose to be with her now or not, there's that history. As the game goes on Mary will eventually give you a "Are we just gonna be friends, if that's so I can handle it" choice. (Without spoiling too much). But, she will continue to still be your best friend because you grew up together and all that.
Well honestly fuck 'em all is kind of the point in a story where your gf enjoys the other girls and you as much as you do. Of course this MC isn't the usual simp voyeur douche he's actually a decent guy who sometimes struggles with guilt but Lydia is a sweetheart freak with a rough exterior who always reassures him that as long he's honest he can pretty much do whoever he wants.
 

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Well honestly fuck 'em all is kind of the point in a story where your gf enjoys the other girls and you as much as you do. Of course this MC isn't the usual simp voyeur douche he's actually a decent guy who sometimes struggles with guilt but Lydia is a sweetheart freak with a rough exterior who always reassures him that as long he's honest he can pretty much do whoever he wants.
Wow you describe her and the MC as though I've written them with individuality and depth. Too bad the guy who gave me two stars last update and said all the characters were exactly the same probably only played 5 minutes and didn't get to find any of that out! :p
 

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Wow you describe her and the MC as though I've written them with individuality and depth. Too bad the guy who gave me two stars last update and said all the characters were exactly the same probably only played 5 minutes and didn't get to find any of that out! :p
It's a tough crowd. I'm trying to tune down my opinions. I have been kind of rough on a few dev's but there are a few who actually deserve it. You're aces though Zoey and don't let anybody tell you different. This is honestly one of my favorite titles ever.
 
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Another part to your question I didn't really answer, is you have to remember him and Mary used to get it on in high school, whether or not you choose to be with her now or not, there's that history. As the game goes on Mary will eventually give you a "Are we just gonna be friends, if that's so I can handle it" choice. (Without spoiling too much). But, she will continue to still be your best friend because you grew up together and all that.
Thank you very much for the replies.
I kept on playing now and see it... I am in the triangle for now and see where it goes. I haven't read that they had something going on or I missed this, thought it was just best friends. :/
I don't know why but this game hit me so often in the feels, despite I cannot empathize to any of the topics... I have a complete different life, guess I am too empathic to those characters.. strange...

I haven't seen the other reply related to my thread.
I never understood or not yet, this polyamory, sharing or this openness. Hence my question for solo route etc.. I seem to be too conservative and too self-concesious and would have doubt they really love each other like real love, in my definition. Are there really no doubts about this or so... but that's another topic and I guess I have to see how love is handled later in this game.. I have still a lot content left..


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Thank you very much for the replies.
I kept on playing now and see it... I am in the triangle for now and see where it goes. I haven't read that they had something going on or I missed this, thought it was just best friends. :/
I don't know why but this game hit me so often in the feels, despite I cannot empathize to any of the topics... I have a complete different life, guess I am too empathic to those characters.. strange...

I haven't seen the other reply related to my thread.
I never understood or not yet, this polyamory, sharing or this openness. Hence my question for solo route etc.. I seem to be too conservative and too self-concesious and would have doubt they really love each other like real love, in my definition. Are there really no doubts about this or so... but that's another topic and I guess I have to see how love is handled later in this game.. I have still a lot content left..


Regards
It's simple, Lydia is friends with your friends, Lydia is cool with you banging them, but she also loves you (If you treat them right they will end up loving you too). This is possible even in real life for some couples. I'm not saying it's the norm, but I've gotta have some artistic license with the game or I would have just made it with MC and Lydia and that would have been incredibly boring.

So, while I say it's not a harem game in the true sense, because most of the side girls and all the main girls will have solo endings. You're very much free to do what you'd like. If you don't want the love triangle with Mary, go back and start a new save and don't get enough points to sleep with Mary the first time, also don't get the points to trigger the threesome path then, and with the exceptions I mentioned which would be off the top of my head... Barb, Melissa, Audrey, you can just sleep with Lydia. Just don't get points with the other girls. I'll give you and example. Here is your second chance to sleep with Mary in Ch. 3 even if you didn't sleep with here yet.

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Even if you have more than 17 points with her I still give you a choice to not have sex with her. Now this is not always true, some of it is point based with characters like here:

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You have to have answered at least 3 of the date questions right and have more than 19 points with Barb to have sex with her the second time.
So, use the Walkthrough and don't get points with them. Easiest I can make it, most games are like this. Now, as I said before, you'll still flirt sometimes, because that's just how the game is designed.
 
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Looks like you're at the pond with Mary and Shelly, wonder what could possibly happen there...?

Alright my lovelies (sorry Shelly slipped into my head for a second)! We are making some nice progress now, still on the first day of the update, but we are at roughly 2500 lines of code (some of it needs to still be rendered, so probably a little more), 704 renders, and 4 animations, at two and a half weeks development.

I have been back to 100% for about a week now, so things are moving along nicely. Still have to write like two more small scenes then we are heading to the casino stuff. After that I'll have two (one will be an alternate) H scenes (those are sex scene for anyone who doesn't know, I know I use that a lot) to do back at the campfire. That will conclude the first day of the update.

The second day of the update should be shorter than the first (we'll be back home for that) ,but you guys know me, that can always change! A few things that are set up in the first day will be fleshed out in the second. Actually they were set up in Ch. 10 but they have evolved some since then.

You and Lydia will also be having dinner at some place you haven't been welcome in a while. At least without them putting everything away so you couldn't steal it. That's enough of a tease I think.

I'll check back with you guys in another couple of weeks!

As always, hope you are all doing well! Cheers!
 

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Small rant, some are claiming (not in this thread) that the MC is handling situations better now and he has "perfect" answers to everything.

A. I don't agree with this, he goes to someone for advice or regurgitares what he has heard in the program to help others (which is what you do no matter how long you've been sober).

B. He should be handling situations better now that he's sober. If he would have stayed a piece of shit the whole game there would be no character development or him moving towards helping others.

C. He's getting to see the affects of addiction on others now and how what he did must have affected others.

D. Serious stuff is still happening pretty much every update in the game to at least someone, they cannot all be calamities or that would be unrealistic.

E. I've much more to tell and just because MC is OK right now doesn't mean he won't mess up at some point (which I've hinted at in this thread several times). More things are gonna happen in his journey through sobriety, and the outcome will largely be determined by his decisions (not all events, but many).

F. People have said the game is too dark, and now that a little more light is shining in it's too happy (which I don't get, because as I said there is almost always someone dealing with something).

G. As I said the story is not over yet. I gotta give ups to be able to have downs and things that are overcome.

Rant done, sorry just frustrated that at times the game gets judged on where it's at currently and not where it will end up. If I were writing a book I'd just give you all the finished product and you could see everything. But that's not how the serial nature of VN's work.

If anyone has comments, by all means fire away.
 

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Small rant, some are claiming (not in this thread) that the MC is handling situations better now and he has "perfect" answers to everything.

A. I don't agree with this, he goes to someone for advice or regurgitares what he has heard in the program to help others (which is what you do no matter how long you've been sober).

B. He should be handling situations better now that he's sober. If he would have stayed a piece of shit the whole game there would be no character development or him moving towards helping others.

C. He's getting to see the affects of addiction on others now and how what he did must have affected others.

D. Serious stuff is still happening pretty much every update in the game to at least someone, they cannot all be calamities or that would be unrealistic.

E. I've much more to tell and just because MC is OK right now doesn't mean he won't mess up at some point (which I've hinted at in this thread several times). More things are gonna happen in his journey through sobriety, and the outcome will largely be determined by his decisions (not all events, but many).

F. People have said the game is too dark, and now that a little more light is shining in it's too happy (which I don't get, because as I said there is almost always someone dealing with something).

G. As I said the story is not over yet. I gotta give ups to be able to have downs and things that are overcome.

Rant done, sorry just frustrated that at times the game gets judged on where it's at currently and not where it will end up. If I were writing a book I'd just give you all the finished product and you could see everything. But that's not how the serial nature of VN's work.

If anyone has comments, by all means fire away.
Fantastic story with realistic personalities. There's more I could say but your bullet points pretty much cover it all and have me a little anxious and excited for what's to come.
 
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Small rant, some are claiming (not in this thread) that the MC is handling situations better now and he has "perfect" answers to everything.

A. I don't agree with this, he goes to someone for advice or regurgitares what he has heard in the program to help others (which is what you do no matter how long you've been sober).

B. He should be handling situations better now that he's sober. If he would have stayed a piece of shit the whole game there would be no character development or him moving towards helping others.

C. He's getting to see the affects of addiction on others now and how what he did must have affected others.

D. Serious stuff is still happening pretty much every update in the game to at least someone, they cannot all be calamities or that would be unrealistic.

E. I've much more to tell and just because MC is OK right now doesn't mean he won't mess up at some point (which I've hinted at in this thread several times). More things are gonna happen in his journey through sobriety, and the outcome will largely be determined by his decisions (not all events, but many).

F. People have said the game is too dark, and now that a little more light is shining in it's too happy (which I don't get, because as I said there is almost always someone dealing with something).

G. As I said the story is not over yet. I gotta give ups to be able to have downs and things that are overcome.

Rant done, sorry just frustrated that at times the game gets judged on where it's at currently and not where it will end up. If I were writing a book I'd just give you all the finished product and you could see everything. But that's not how the serial nature of VN's work.

If anyone has comments, by all means fire away.
You're the author and creator of this game, personally I think you did a great job and loved the content so far.
What you do with the story is up to you and you only, if people don't like the direction a novel is going or they know better then you then they should write a visual novel themselves to their likings.

I don't get it why people have to complain/rant about stories not going to their likes, why can't they just enjoy the ride these authors (like you) make for them.. makes me really wonder sometimes. After all we're only speaking of a GAME/NOVEL not something irl.

To speak about twists and turns in games, every1 knows the cliffhangers in Acting Lessons and Leap of Faith...
Truth, those hurted quite alot but the emotions those moments brought to me in a GAME/NOVEL, never did I experienced this before. For me this was one hell of an experience, never did I shed a tear before to a game as I did at the end of chapter 6 LoF. The ambiance, music, story everything came in hard...
Did I like the end of CH6? NO! Did I accept it? YES... because it was the author's choice.
Not every game can be "puppies and sunshine stories" ;) .

Personally I love the more lighthearted stories like Eternum and OiaL, but yours hitted a string too..
Hence I'm still searching for qualitative stories through the hundreds of existing games.

The only thing that could have me rant is the long wait it takes for some authors to make sequels tho I understand that creating such novels is a time consuming job.

Keep up the good work, I'm eagerly awaiting your next release!
 

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Zoey Raven You know I don't know a single thing in my own personal life about drug use or addiction. But you have given me insight verified as authentic by others in recovery on this thread. So I think you got the real characters and real story down pretty well. This web site has - like many others - verified there are always people that will bitch and moan about anything.





PEACE
 

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Zoey Raven You know I don't know a single thing in my own personal life about drug use or addiction. But you have given me insight verified as authentic by others in recovery on this thread. So I think you got the real characters and real story down pretty well. This web site has - like many others - verified there are always people that will bitch and moan about anything.





PEACE
I agree, I have faced mild addiction, along with living with an active addict. The struggles in this game are as real as it gets, even though it hardly scratches the surface it just gives you a glimpse inside.
 

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Small rant, some are claiming (not in this thread) that the MC is handling situations better now and he has "perfect" answers to everything.

A. I don't agree with this, he goes to someone for advice or regurgitares what he has heard in the program to help others (which is what you do no matter how long you've been sober).

B. He should be handling situations better now that he's sober. If he would have stayed a piece of shit the whole game there would be no character development or him moving towards helping others.

C. He's getting to see the affects of addiction on others now and how what he did must have affected others.

D. Serious stuff is still happening pretty much every update in the game to at least someone, they cannot all be calamities or that would be unrealistic.

E. I've much more to tell and just because MC is OK right now doesn't mean he won't mess up at some point (which I've hinted at in this thread several times). More things are gonna happen in his journey through sobriety, and the outcome will largely be determined by his decisions (not all events, but many).

F. People have said the game is too dark, and now that a little more light is shining in it's too happy (which I don't get, because as I said there is almost always someone dealing with something).

G. As I said the story is not over yet. I gotta give ups to be able to have downs and things that are overcome.

Rant done, sorry just frustrated that at times the game gets judged on where it's at currently and not where it will end up. If I were writing a book I'd just give you all the finished product and you could see everything. But that's not how the serial nature of VN's work.

If anyone has comments, by all means fire away.
Maybe you should add 5 hours every episode of inner dialogue where mc tries to come to grips with himself and the steps. :p
 
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