Walter Victor

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This would be a great game if not for being forced into the relationship with the ugly girl Lydia. And it really spoils a lot.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry you feel that way, but you have a right to your opinion.

However, you need to know that Lydia remains the MC's girlfriend at least through Chapter 18. So...
 
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I can't do it. Spent days trying to find something worthy of pushing through a LOT of dialog to get through the story and all I encountered was infuriating double standards that left me frustrated in my process of trying to understand the people. Talking about the importance of honesty and openness but everybody habitually keeping the most mundane of information from each other in some sort of fashion that resembles some sort of teasing game. The constant secret keeping, deception and subterfuge. Talking about being free from the grind of scoring but having every woman the MC cares about tell him he has no say, as they plan everything behind his back, make a game of lying to him to keep him in the dark, even bragging about it. Then they just tell him where to be and when and he's like, "Duh ok." The PO/cop that's a secret stripper who would get fired from the PD if they found out. Where's the honesty and accountability? Part of that involves keeping ones word, especially when it comes to agreeing to stringent standards cops have to follow. Gets the opportunity to fuck her immediately after. While still wanting to continue critical therapy essential to recovery. No option to get another therapist. The atrocious grammar and spelling. The misspelling of commonly used words and phrases. Seems a little low effort presentation wise for something that's supposed to be meaningful and is designed to educate.

I'm sorry if this makes the dev feel like I'm being mean, but that's not where I'm coming from. Just really disappointed in how this was executed. It could have been so much better. There could have been way more attention paid to details, especially the grammar. I see a lot of that southern/midwestern tendency of using phrases way too much but constantly getting the spelling and/or the application wrong. It's not "How are you FAIRing?" it's "How are you FARing?" It's not "I COULD care less," it's "I COULDN'T care less." For a story that keeps preaching, "All we can do is our best" this one is an insult to that ideal, because it isn't even close to a best effort. Didn't have the opportunity to get educated? I don't blame you for that. But the story preaches to ask for help when you need it. This game doesn't do that either. It just preaches. That's it. Just like the people it hates so much. Such a shame.
 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry you feel that way, but you have a right to your opinion.

However, you need to know that Lydia remains the MC's girlfriend at least through Chapter 18. So...
I find Lydia to be absolutely gorgeous. Personal taste though. I like the type of southern european features she has.
 

Walter Victor

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I can't do it. Spent days trying to find something worthy of pushing through a LOT of dialog to get through the story and all I encountered was infuriating double standards that left me frustrated in my process of trying to understand the people. Talking about the importance of honesty and openness but everybody habitually keeping the most mundane of information from each other in some sort of fashion that resembles some sort of teasing game. The constant secret keeping, deception and subterfuge. Talking about being free from the grind of scoring but having every woman the MC cares about tell him he has no say, as they plan everything behind his back, make a game of lying to him to keep him in the dark, even bragging about it. Then they just tell him where to be and when and he's like, "Duh ok." The PO/cop that's a secret stripper who would get fired from the PD if they found out. Where's the honesty and accountability? Part of that involves keeping ones word, especially when it comes to agreeing to stringent standards cops have to follow. Gets the opportunity to fuck her immediately after. While still wanting to continue critical therapy essential to recovery. No option to get another therapist. The atrocious grammar and spelling. The misspelling of commonly used words and phrases. Seems a little low effort presentation wise for something that's supposed to be meaningful and is designed to educate.

I'm sorry if this makes the dev feel like I'm being mean, but that's not where I'm coming from. Just really disappointed in how this was executed. It could have been so much better. There could have been way more attention paid to details, especially the grammar. I see a lot of that southern/midwestern tendency of using phrases way too much but constantly getting the spelling and/or the application wrong. It's not "How are you FAIRing?" it's "How are you FARing?" It's not "I COULD care less," it's "I COULDN'T care less." For a story that keeps preaching, "All we can do is our best" this one is an insult to that ideal, because it isn't even close to a best effort. Didn't have the opportunity to get educated? I don't blame you for that. But the story preaches to ask for help when you need it. This game doesn't do that either. It just preaches. That's it. Just like the people it hates so much. Such a shame.
You are entitled to your opinion. Just try to remember that it is just your subjective opinion.

But, the developer is writing his game, and is not interested in writing yours, so try another game.
 

Walter Victor

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I agree and that's why the player should always have a choice who he likes.
You already have that choice, and you don't like her. But, you would be asking the developer to completely change his game to have someone other than Lydia as the MC's girlfriend. He wanted Lydia to be the main LI, so she is. The best thing for you to do is to move on to some other game.

By the way, the overwhelming majority of the posters on this thread adore Lydia, so you will be fortunate if you escape here with your scalp intact. :)
 

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Getting an exception after the meeting with Lydia and Claire. Haven't seen anyone else post it even with a quick search. I highly suspect it could be safely ignored, looks like there's just a variable not be set by default. I just set it myself in console to false.
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But, you would be asking the developer to completely change his game to have someone other than Lydia as the MC's girlfriend.
No, what I meant is that the player should have always an option to choose his girlfriend. And I know it's too late for it now, I'm just saying in case if other developers read or if this one will plan another game in the future.
 

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How the fuck can you think she's ugly? She's incredibly hot. Probably the hottest in the game.
She is for me (short dyed hair and heavy makeup) but it doesn't make sense to discuss individual preferences, I've just wanted to point out that not giving an option to choose a girlfriend may discourage a lot of potential players.
 

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Getting an exception after the meeting with Lydia and Claire. Haven't seen anyone else post it even with a quick search. I highly suspect it could be safely ignored, looks like there's just a variable not be set by default. I just set it myself in console to false.
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I'd say it's more an issue with your save file, because it's properly defaulted in the variables.rpy and also properly declared in the ch13_script.rpy, and yes you're the first person I've heard this from.

So, like I said I'd be more concerned about a corrupted save file. How that happened I wouldn't know, could be renpy being renpy (are you altering your saves at all, sounds like maybe you are?). Which certainly has happened to me before in games. Might wanna roll back to an earlier save and try again. Because, this should not be an issue.

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I can't do it. Spent days trying to find something worthy of pushing through a LOT of dialog to get through the story and all I encountered was infuriating double standards that left me frustrated in my process of trying to understand the people. Talking about the importance of honesty and openness but everybody habitually keeping the most mundane of information from each other in some sort of fashion that resembles some sort of teasing game. The constant secret keeping, deception and subterfuge. Talking about being free from the grind of scoring but having every woman the MC cares about tell him he has no say, as they plan everything behind his back, make a game of lying to him to keep him in the dark, even bragging about it. Then they just tell him where to be and when and he's like, "Duh ok." The PO/cop that's a secret stripper who would get fired from the PD if they found out. Where's the honesty and accountability? Part of that involves keeping ones word, especially when it comes to agreeing to stringent standards cops have to follow. Gets the opportunity to fuck her immediately after. While still wanting to continue critical therapy essential to recovery. No option to get another therapist. The atrocious grammar and spelling. The misspelling of commonly used words and phrases. Seems a little low effort presentation wise for something that's supposed to be meaningful and is designed to educate.

I'm sorry if this makes the dev feel like I'm being mean, but that's not where I'm coming from. Just really disappointed in how this was executed. It could have been so much better. There could have been way more attention paid to details, especially the grammar. I see a lot of that southern/midwestern tendency of using phrases way too much but constantly getting the spelling and/or the application wrong. It's not "How are you FAIRing?" it's "How are you FARing?" It's not "I COULD care less," it's "I COULDN'T care less." For a story that keeps preaching, "All we can do is our best" this one is an insult to that ideal, because it isn't even close to a best effort. Didn't have the opportunity to get educated? I don't blame you for that. But the story preaches to ask for help when you need it. This game doesn't do that either. It just preaches. That's it. Just like the people it hates so much. Such a shame.
That's cool, no heard feelings go play another game. There's so many on here and hey, you're getting them for free right?
 
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I agree and that's why the player should always have a choice who he likes.
No, they shouldn't because I'm writing the game and they aren't and I picked Lydia for the main LI (by the way, there are going to be solo endings with each girl, but it seems we're beyond that with your opinion of the game, because Lydia is the canon love interest, which is disagreeable to you). There are also several other games that use the same format as I do. You don't like it which is fine, so you don't have to play it. You're also getting it for free right?

So, having said that, I would suggest you move on to a new game that fits your standards, or create one of your own with your standards included that way no decision the developer makes will ever impact you because you'll be the one making them. Cheers!
 
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Alright, making Molly and Brenda mutually exclusive is just evil, even more so because they both work through a single variable so even changing variables manually makes it impossible to pursue both at the same time, they could've logically worked together, as the MC doesn't work every day with either, so alternating where we work would've been perfect.
 
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Alright, making Molly and Brenda mutually exclusive is just evil, even more so because they both work through a single variable so even changing variables manually makes it impossible to pursue both at the same time, they could've logically worked together, as the MC doesn't work every day with either, so alternating where we work would've been perfect.
I had to do at least one path like that. Also you had to have someone to work for if you didn't choose Brenda. I have however heard this comment before. Just have two save, easy enough! :)
 
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hey everyone...I'm at the part where Audrey is telling MC about having a thyroidectomy...I was a surgical nurse for 15 years before being hired by a orthopedic company for 20 years...I've assisted on hundreds of thyroidectomy's...two surgeon's that I assisted with were probably the best of the best...when they would operate it was like watching a symphony...there was never a wasted movement while performing the procedure...these two surgeons would also remove the parathyroids as well sometimes but it was best to try and leave them...the skill level these two surgeons had were remarkable...they would also perform vascular surgery as well like carotid, aorta and anything vascular...they trained surgeons different years ago to be great at multiple things...the surgeons now today can't hold a candle to the old timers...the one surgeon I'm thinking of would ask me personally to assist him because I was very good at my job( I'm sorry if ya think I'm bragging)...many times while we were waiting for the pathologist to give us the results for the thyroid the doctor loved to gamble...he'd go to Vegas many times through out the year so we would have central supply sterilize a pair of dice and we play with the dice on my mayo stand while waiting for pathology...anyway I just wanted everyone to know it brought back great memories
 

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hey everyone...I'm at the part where Audrey is telling MC about having a thyroidectomy...I was a surgical nurse for 15 years before being hired by a orthopedic company for 20 years...I've assisted on hundreds of thyroidectomy's...two surgeon's that I assisted with were probably the best of the best...when they would operate it was like watching a symphony...there was never a wasted movement while performing the procedure...these two surgeons would also remove the parathyroids as well sometimes but it was best to try and leave them...the skill level these two surgeons had were remarkable...they would also perform vascular surgery as well like carotid, aorta and anything vascular...they trained surgeons different years ago to be great at multiple things...the surgeons now today can't hold a candle to the old timers...the one surgeon I'm thinking of would ask me personally to assist him because I was very good at my job( I'm sorry if ya think I'm bragging)...many times while we were waiting for the pathologist to give us the results for the thyroid the doctor loved to gamble...he'd go to Vegas many times through out the year so we would have central supply sterilize a pair of dice and we play with the dice on my mayo stand while waiting for pathology...anyway I just wanted everyone to know it brought back great memories
I just thought it was something that would shed a little more light into who she is as a person, and give another reason she wanted to be a doctor instead medical of research as she was going to do initially. This was cool to read!
 
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Since people have been asking again, who don't wanna use the PDF or the Mod, I'll post it here too. The correct answer to get points with Barb is 9/10 what would seem the most offensive one! Unless you're still in S1 and she has three choices then it's the most offensive one or the least offensive one.
 
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Looks like Audrey just woke up, wouldn't mind waking up with her myself...


Alright everyone, I know I said I wouldn't post a dev update until the 25th, but I got more done than I thought I would, with a caveat. The majority of what I've done so far it writing. For some reason with this one I just started writing and couldn't stop! I guess that's not a whole lot different than most of the first dev updates I give you for a release, but I went even further ahead than I normally do this time.

What this means, is I'm naturally playing render catch up. So, I'm not gonna quote numbers or anything because they wouldn't be an accurate representation of what has been accomplished to this point. I'll do that in the next dev update.

Just to give you some context though, I'm up to the scene in the afternoon where Lydia and MC are going to visit MC's Dad at the prison. There's a lot that's happened in the story already in the morning though. Many (but not all) of the events from the morning were set up in Ch. 18. So, you should have a pretty good idea of what I've been working on content wise. With a somewhat major exception I won't spoil.

That's about it for now, I'll check back in with you guys in two or three weeks. Probably two if the render numbers are matching what I have and will continue to write. That way you'll have a clear picture of where things stand.

Full disclosure. The new Dragon Age game is coming out on the 31st of October (Halloween if you will), and I'd love to tell you I'll be able to hold off on doing a play-through of that until this release is done, but I'd be lying. I've been waiting for this game for 10 years, and Dragon Age is by far my favorite video game franchise of all time. I'd be embarrassed to tell you how many hours I've got in all the games combined. I'm really pulling for BioWare and hoping this game doesn't end up sucking. I just read something in PC gamer, where a guy played it for six hours and had a whole lot of positive things to say about it. So, if you're like me and enjoy the franchise, that's awesome news! I just wanted to make everyone aware of this.

As always, hope you are all doing well! Cheers!
 
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