Socrambus

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Holly is a boring perfect unicorn, whose "flaws" are very convenient for her partners.
Also, how is this a spoiler?
She's not perfect, she has serious bagage from growing up with her family, big self-steem issues, most of her self-worth depends on other people's opinions (Ian, Lena, Ivy) and she doesn't really know Ian, only her idealized version of him. Emma is the mentally healthiest option by far.
 

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She's not perfect, she has serious bagage from growing up with her family, big self-steem issues, most of her self-worth depends on other people's opinions (Ian, Lena, Ivy) and she doesn't really know Ian, only her idealized version of him. Emma is the mentally healthiest option by far.
Dating Emma might be extremely unhealthy for one's pelvis though...
 

Gicoo

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She's not perfect, she has serious bagage from growing up with her family, big self-steem issues, most of her self-worth depends on other people's opinions (Ian, Lena, Ivy) and she doesn't really know Ian, only her idealized version of him. Emma is the mentally healthiest option by far.
The problem is that there are no real disadvantages that come with her flaws. Bad family? Well, Ian and Lena are here to create a happy family with her! Self-esteem? She can act around as she likes when she is with Ian/Lena, they accept her. Doesn't know Ian? So what? As of now, there is no disappointment, no criticsm on Hollys part. She goes along with whatever Ian does.

Holly doesn't complain, doesn't argue, doesn't break up, doesn't have plans and mind on her own, doesn't contradict her partner, doesn't set conditions. And despite all, the relationship goes smoothly, has no downsides. Ian only breaks up if he is the one having too much issues with other women.

The other women have ego. Treat them like shit and they react accordingly. Ian can even mean well and they can still feel insulted, for better or worse.

Of course, Holly is the ideal woman with porn mindset: She makes no demands and is always sexual available.
 
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Recently, I've discovered more promising "Eskimo brothers" routes. It's either pursuing relationship with Emma or with Alison, but after all her dates with Jeremy and their first threesome without you. Then you can go for a second threesome.
It seems in those routes you can share all possible sloppy seconds encounters game offers.

Then there is Louise who was nominal Jeremy gf, so that's the last one to hit. ;)
 

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The problem is that there are no real disadvantages that come with her flaws. Bad family? Well, Ian and Lena are here to create a happy family with her! Self-esteem? She can act around as she likes when she is with Ian/Lena, they accept her. Doesn't know Ian? So what? As of now, there is no disappointment, no criticsm on Hollys part. She goes along with whatever Ian does.

Holly doesn't complain, doesn't argue, doesn't break up, doesn't have plans and mind on her own, doesn't contradict her partner, doesn't set conditions. And despite all, the relationship goes smoothly, has no downsides. Ian only breaks up if he is the one having too much issues with other women.

The other women have ego. Treat them like shit and they react accordingly. Ian can even mean well and they can still feel insulted, for better or worse.

Of course, Holly is the ideal woman with porn mindset: She makes no demands and is always sexual available.
I agree that Holly is set up to be the ideal partner and can see how that might be boring to some. We have to see how she acts now that they're official, hopefully she will be able to put her foot down if Ian cheats or does something else that's bad boyfriend material.

I disagree with calling that porn mindset. Nothing that happens is particularly unrealistic. Being always sexually available is a weird thing to say about her. All the women are always sexually available for Ian. It's a porn game after all. Ian can actually make advances on Holly in his apartment and lose relationship points with her because she wants to have a chill date. I'd say either all the women have porn mindset writing or none do. And if they all have it then it's a meaningless criticism to single out Holly with.
 

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I agree that Holly is set up to be the ideal partner and can see how that might be boring to some. We have to see how she acts now that they're official, hopefully she will be able to put her foot down if Ian cheats or does something else that's bad boyfriend material.

I disagree with calling that porn mindset. Nothing that happens is particularly unrealistic. Being always sexually available is a weird thing to say about her. All the women are always sexually available for Ian. It's a porn game after all. Ian can actually make advances on Holly in his apartment and lose relationship points with her because she wants to have a chill date. I'd say either all the women have porn mindset writing or none do. And if they all have it then it's a meaningless criticism to single out Holly with.
Holly is the only women where it is very difficult to cheat on. Lena won't do it, Cindy isn't available, Emma backs down, Minerva backs down, if Ian is hung on Gillian he breaks up (so no cheating), Ivy and Louise just don't text???
Whats left is Bad Jess who is weirdly seperated from the rest of the cast, Cherry, which has to be adressed, and the only hope is Alison, though Ian can't fall in love with her if he is too commited too Holly.

Ian has to earn a couple of sex scenes and the other girls aren't available unconditionally. They get mad if he hooks up with other women, can refuse him and break up with him if he is too pushy, rude etc.
 
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fatpussy123

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Holly is the only women where it is very difficult to cheat on. Lena won't do it, Cindy isn't available, Emma backs down, Minerva backs down, if Ian is hung on Gillian he breaks up (so no cheating), Ivy and Louise just don't text???
Whats left is Bad Jess who is weirdly seperated from the rest of the cast, Cherry, which has to be adressed, and the only hope is Alison, though Ian can't fall in love with her if he is too commited too Holly.

Ian has to earn a couple of sex scenes and the other girls aren't available unconditionally. They get mad if he hooks up with other women, can refuse him and break up with him if he is too pushy, rude etc.
Is there any point in the Holly path where Ians exploits with other women comes up? I remember at the beach he can lose relationship points with her if he is too heavy handed with getting Emma topless. He also can't finger Emma at the beach if he is dating Holly. The relationship with Holly is only official since last update, so like I said we have to see how she reacts to Ian cheating if they're official.
 

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There's no variable flagged if Lena warns Cindy about Axel, in fact there is no variable changed during their interaction except for the one measuring Lena and Cindy's relationship. Neither is there any variable set if you choose to discuss Cindy with Axel later. So it seems all that is just narrative and not even flavored because Ian and Cindy's relationship is not even taken into account.
How disappointing. Was really hoping Lena could be the voice of reason. But if it won't affect the storyline whatsoever, the choice to warn her or not might as well not even be there.
 

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Lena just found out her parents have been sleeping with her boyfriend :eek::eek::eek:...She is not amused
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Speaking of which, do you guys think Ian's dad could be a potential LI for Lena in the future? Not in a creepy way like the Arthur/Ashley dynamic, but he seems like the handsome gray haired DILF type, and Lena has already shown that she is interested in older men. Is it too far off to think of the possibility of her seducing Ian's dad or something?
Not including Lena's mom as a LI for Ian because she looks like a granny.
 
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