VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Vernalcash]

And the lazy/milking circlejerk manages to pop up even with an update about to release...

 

[PorcZburator]

Again I have to semi-white knight for Eva, even though I don't want to:

Patreon IS NOT a store where you buy a product. It's a support platform. You are supporting A PERSON / ENTITY hoping for results. When you do that, you agree for "the best" - getting content, but also for "the worst" - breaks, development problems, dogs eating patreon's homework etc.

If you don't like that, there are two options - first one is clearly - not supporting in the first place. Second one is supporting only during months where content IS released, therefore kinda turning Patreon into that "store" where you can buy stuff that is already produced.

Recognizing that Eva's output has lowered drastically is one thing, but moaning about it constantly is another. Only someone with limited brain capacity can say she's "milking" anything. She has more and more developement issues the longer she works on the game, because complexity of it is going up, and that's why it takes longer and longer to release next update. It doesn't look like her passion or quality of work has dropped, quite the opposite actually.

If she was releasing more often, she would propably get more and more patreons, which would result in more money. How is releasing less and dropping patreon numbers/money considered "milking"? That makes no sense. I know that porn addicts here, myself included, want to masturbate to them Emma's cheeks getting clapped asap, but please calm the fuck down lol.

i remember something like this happened with good girl going bad had a period i haven`t seen any update and thought it was droped but in the end she finished the game that has a great replaybility...her GGGB gets an 10/10 will play again and i`d like to point out graphically Red String looks better so i assume it takes longer to make an update

 

[fatpussy123]

Ok. To distract from the white noise of "lasy milking dev milkr" as we await the update, I've confirmed a little noticed but not so hidden truth that'll make some cringe, some cheer, and most say "why the fuck did you post this?"

But based on general female preference: *Drumroll*

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Bro is the cock inspector

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Bro is the cock inspector

The one and only.

 

[portrapoodle]

surely update today?

 

[DDDIsReal]

Again I have to semi-white knight for Eva, even though I don't want to:

Patreon IS NOT a store where you buy a product. It's a support platform. You are supporting A PERSON / ENTITY hoping for results. When you do that, you agree for "the best" - getting content, but also for "the worst" - breaks, development problems, dogs eating patreon's homework etc.

If you don't like that, there are two options - first one is clearly - not supporting in the first place. Second one is supporting only during months where content IS released, therefore kinda turning Patreon into that "store" where you can buy stuff that is already produced.

Recognizing that Eva's output has lowered drastically is one thing, but moaning about it constantly is another. Only someone with limited brain capacity can say she's "milking" anything. She has more and more developement issues the longer she works on the game, because complexity of it is going up, and that's why it takes longer and longer to release next update. It doesn't look like her passion or quality of work has dropped, quite the opposite actually.

If she was releasing more often, she would probably get more and more patreons, which would result in more money. How is releasing less and dropping patreon numbers/money considered "milking"? That makes no sense. I know that porn addicts here, myself included, want to masturbate to them Emma's cheeks getting clapped asap, but please calm the fuck down lol.

The development issues and complexity caused by herself, when i said that would be impossible to maintain a good pace or finish this game before 5-10 years, her defenders were saying ''sHe'Ll fInD a wAy!1!1'' guess who's right after 1 year without updates

 

[RolandG.]

even if it is, what exactly is the problem?

I will continue to support this game because that's exactly how I like it.

Will it take forever to finish? Yes probably, but I don't care if the quality of the game doesn't suffer.

Most games I support and like have a very long development time , see Summer's Gone, Jessica O'Neil's Hard News, Intertwined or Unleashed.

Yes that annoys me too, but for me it's the result that counts.
If I like the story and it appeals to me visually, I'll just have to wait.

I'm much more annoyed about expensive store-bought games for my Xbox X, which are then partly so buggy that they are hardly playable.

 

[BloodyMares]

i find it weird that lena can't choose a serious relationship with ian only because she fucked jeremy, meanwhile ian can fuck everyone and still go for a serious relationship with her

He can't have serious relationship with Lena if he hooked up with Holly or confessed his feelings to Alison. Jeremy is Lena's equivalent of Holly, meaning that it gets in the way of their relationship.

But if you roleplay a lena that dosent care for her mom,ivy influance,drugs fucks mark,use robert ,fucks axel gives her friends boyfriend a blowjob and so on your argument makes zero sens for lena to act that way

And why would this libertine slut Lena want to tie herself down with a serious relationship with Ian? To intentionally mess with him and break his heart? Lena may be a slut but she wouldn't want another jealous angry ex after her recent breakup with Axel. Robert was a pain in the ass with his whining about serious relationship, Axel IS a pain in the ass that keeps messing with her life. Would that kind of Lena really want to add Ian into the same camp?

 

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[DDDIsReal]

even if it is, what exactly is the problem?

I will continue to support this game because that's exactly how I like it.

Will it take forever to finish? Yes probably, but I don't care if the quality of the game doesn't suffer.

Most games I support and like have a very long development time , see Summer's Gone, Jessica O'Neil's Hard News, Intertwined or Unleashed.

Yes that annoys me too, but for me it's the result that counts.
If I like the story and it appeals to me visually, I'll just have to wait.

I'm much more annoyed about expensive store-bought games for my Xbox X, which are then partly so buggy that they are hardly playable.

There aren't problem if you want support her or other milkers, it's your money and you can do whathever you want. The problem begin when supporters try to defend at any costs facts with excuses because they're salty for throwing money

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

And the lazy/milking circlejerk manages to pop up even with an update about to release...

It seems that people have no problems in life. Fight in the comments for a topic that everyone is tired of.

 

[mommysboiii]

And why would this libertine slut Lena want to tie herself down with a serious relationship with Ian? To intentionally mess with him and break his heart? Lena may be a slut but she wouldn't want another jealous angry ex after her recent breakup with Axel. Robert was a pain in the ass with his whining about serious relationship, Axel IS a pain in the ass that keeps messing with her life. Would that kind of Lena really want to add Ian into the same camp?

I still dont understand why we cant do this I think in one playtrough I cheat with lena even if iam together with ian but its a long time ago and maybe that changed/or was bugged but I dont understand why remove or dont add the option (unless eva is scared of the crybabys)maybe I want to play that way as a player? maybe my lena likes cheating on someone ? maybe she is very kinky ??????do you think a slutty lena that sucks of the best friends boyfriend that crys all the time about her boyfriend problems has high morals? or cares about other feelings? noo of not so I dont understand the reason behind it I think the only reason why this is not the case is the crybaby crowd prob the same reason why there is no trans char like good girl gone bad in ors

I think it would be a big mistake if you cant cheat with ian if you are together with lena or with lena on ian or if ian is in a relationship with cindy,holly that they cant get corrupted from axel or ivy even if you want to play this way and so on.... I mean its evas game so her decission as a creative person but I think its not a good idea to always listen to the crybabys that instantly are like ohh no a kink,trans,female dom,ntr mimimi i dont like

 

[BloodyMares]

I don't get the luxury of taking a 6 month vacation and getting paid to work for what amounts to 1 chapter for half a fucking year.

The hard truth about creative work is that working hours doesn't always translate to productivity. You can work your brain off for 12 hours a day and still struggle to move at a decent pace due to various reasons (personal issues dominating your thoughts, stress and anxiety, sleeping disorders, indecisiveness, burnout etc). A writer can be stuck at the brainstorming stage for quite some time before forming concrete concepts and realizing them. I'm not saying that this is an excuse for long development cycle and that everyone should suck it up and keep giving Eva money, but it's ignorant to just blame it on laziness when there are objective reasons slowing the project down. You don't have to support a game with such complications in development and are valid to voice your frustrations over these objective issues but the constant shitting on Eva, calling her lazy or a milker, etc isn't doing any good. The game won't be developed faster just because you say one thing enough times, but it might get easier if Eva manages to deal with whatever is slowing her down.

The development issues and complexity caused by herself, when i said that would be impossible to maintain a good pace or finish this game before 5-10 years, her defenders were saying ''sHe'Ll fInD a wAy!1!1'' guess who's right after 1 year without updates

So you can be happy that you're right and be the one and only who knew all along but everyone ignored unfairly. But instead you seem bitter so I don't think being right means much to you. The question is, what is the way out? Do you have any ideas or is this just talk?

 

[boobthief]

Ok. To distract from the white noise of "lasy milking dev milkr" as we await the update, I've confirmed a little noticed but not so hidden truth that'll make some cringe, some cheer, and most say "why the fuck did you post this?"

But based on general female preference: *Drumroll*

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Fascinating analysis! I have questions:

Did you factor in that they are all in the tumescent "semi-chub" stage?

Or perhaps that this depicts the detumescent stage because they collectively misunderstood the group invite to a wild swordfight?

I think further consideration is required to factor in both experience and technique. You may rate Stan as the best equipped but surely the conjecture "All the gear, no idea" applies. Thoughts?

 

[DDDIsReal]

The hard truth about creative work is that working hours doesn't always translate to productivity. You can work your brain off for 12 hours a day and still struggle to move at a decent pace due to various reasons (personal issues dominating your thoughts, stress and anxiety, sleeping disorders, indecisiveness, burnout etc). A writer can be stuck at the brainstorming stage for quite some time before forming concrete concepts and realizing them. I'm not saying that this is an excuse for long development cycle and that everyone should suck it up and keep giving Eva money, but it's ignorant to just blame it on laziness when there are objective reasons slowing the project down. You don't have to support a game with such complications in development and are valid to voice your frustrations over these objective issues but the constant shitting on Eva, calling her lazy or a milker, etc isn't doing any good. The game won't be developed faster just because you say one thing enough times, but it might get easier if Eva manages to deal with whatever is slowing her down.

So you can be happy that you're right and be the one and only who knew all along but everyone ignored unfairly. But instead you seem bitter so I don't think being right means much to you. The question is, what is the way out? Do you have any ideas or is this just talk?

''The way out'' is the same that i said 1 year ago, help. She need someone that help her not just colourists or the game will never be finished. BTW yes i'm bitter and i never wanted to be right, because if i'm here obviously i love(d) this game and only want more

 

[Doppelgang]

Ok. To distract from the white noise of "lasy milking dev milkr" as we await the update, I've confirmed a little noticed but not so hidden truth that'll make some cringe, some cheer, and most say "why the fuck did you post this?"

But based on general female preference: *Drumroll*

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Fascinating analysis! I have questions:

Did you factor in that they are all in the tumescent "semi-chub" stage?

Or perhaps that this depicts the detumescent stage because they collectively misunderstood the group invite to a wild swordfight?

I think further consideration is required to factor in both experience and technique. You may rate Stan as the best equipped but surely the conjecture "All the gear, no idea" applies. Thoughts?

Yeah, we need to step this up, I think it’s safe to say the distraction didn’t work. What about their balls? And what’s the ideal balls to cock ratio? And maybe you should repost the original picture with some calculations about their total penis mass? Girth x pi x length? There’s a lot of unanswered questions to dive into here.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Fascinating analysis! I have questions:

Did you factor in that they are all in the tumescent "semi-chub" stage?

Or perhaps that this depicts the detumescent stage because they collectively misunderstood the group invite to a wild swordfight?

I think further consideration is required to factor in both experience and technique. You may rate Stan as the best equipped but surely the conjecture "All the gear, no idea" applies. Thoughts?

Indeed. Indeed. On the penile geometry, I have considered the grower vs show-er theorem, but haven't quite figured out where to cross the X or carry the Y. At this point it might be delving into more quantum dick physics (dicksics), which is anybody's guess, to be quite honest. We already know Jeremy's is made up of dark matter and that Stan probably hasn't hit a wormhole yet. So I say, stay the course while gathering more information. All in due time.

I have already decided not to factor in the motion of the ocean , as we've got 10 chapters to go and I'm merely surmising potential, my good lad.

 

[BloodyMares]

I still dont understand why we cant do this I think in one playtrough I cheat with lena even if iam together with ian but its a long time ago and maybe that changed/or was bugged but I dont understand why remove or dont add the option (unless eva is scared of the crybabys)maybe I want to play that way as a player? maybe my lena likes cheating on someone ? maybe she is very kinky ??????do you think a slutty lena that sucks of the best friends boyfriend that crys all the time about her boyfriend problems has high morals? or cares about other feelings? noo of not so I dont understand the reason behind it I think the only reason why this is not the case is the crybaby crowd prob the same reason why there is no trans char like good girl gone bad in ors

I think it would be a big mistake if you cant cheat with ian if you are together with lena or with lena on ian or if ian is in a relationship with cindy,holly that they cant get corrupted from axel or ivy even if you want to play this way and so on.... I mean its evas game so her decission as a creative person but I think its not a good idea to always listen to the crybabys that instantly are like ohh no a kink,trans,female dom,ntr mimimi i dont like

Lena is not your character. These "maybes" have nothing to do with who Lena is as a person, at the very start of the game. I somehow doubt that you could rewrite your personality into something you're not. Your personality is consistent. Same thing with ORS characters. Lena finds connection with Ian, Holly, Emma, and Ivy. This is her people, because Eva decided so. And that means that whatever happens between them will depend not on Lena's random whims but on series of events that shape their relationship. Lena can mess with others because they're simply not as important to her. She has reasons to hate Stan by trusting Louise, she has reasons to dismiss and treat Louise badly because she's stupid and clingy, she can make Mike cheat on his girlfriend because for her that girlfriend is a nobody. There are objective reasons for Lena to act within her character. She can steal money from Ed and Molly because she can be desperate about money thinking it's no harm if they're about to close anyway. This kind of internal logic guides EVERY decision in this game. NOTHING suggests that Lena likes to be a cheating slut, in fact she DISLIKES cheaters based on her past experience. For something to apply to Ian / Lena, there has to be an established pattern of similar behavior or some form of predisposition towards it.

If she didn't care about others' feelings, she wouldn't hate Ian for sleeping with Holly, which happens by default if Ian ends up kissing her. Holly and Ivy are two people in Lena's life that she trusts and protects. Just because you want to play Lena like a psychopath doesn't mean that she IS a psychopath.

 

[BloodyMares]

''The way out'' is the same that i said 1 year ago, help. She need someone that help her not just colourists or the game will never be finished. BTW yes i'm bitter and i never wanted to be right, because if i'm here obviously i love(d) this game and only want more

Well, do you volunteer or have any volunteers? Because I don't think there are thousands of men willing to contribute to the game but Eva is pushing everyone away. I tried to direct volunteers to help Eva with writing at least character bios, can you guess what happened to them? They lost interest or became inactive or personal life happened to them. And if they bailed at the simplest short-term tasks, how would one find help for more substantial long-term tasks?

And the problem isn't even with finding people eager to help, the problem is with keeping them around. I think Eva is well aware that she needs help and is actually low-key asking for it, but one needs to be careful about selecting the talents who'd stick around and not just leave mid-development. Just look at what happened with Lust Campus, all because the artist didn't feel like drawing porn anymore, dooming the project single-handedly. I remember when there was initial hype around that game, being a spiritual successor to GGGB, but now hardly anyone cares about it.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Ok. To distract from the white noise of "lasy milking dev milkr" as we await the update, I've confirmed a little noticed but not so hidden truth that'll make some cringe, some cheer, and most say "why the fuck did you post this?"

But based on general female preference: *Drumroll*

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Is Robert's dick really that small?