VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[ARTISAN365]

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Holly is the obvious choice for a love interest if you are going with a prosperous lifestyle where you will build a traditional family unit. I could see having two kids, and little farm house with a white picket fence with her, and some horses and a dog. Going to church with her every Sunday, and being happily married for 50 years.

If you want to have a "Happy Hobo" lifestyle then Emma is the clear winner. She is down for anal on a first date, identifies as a cockaroach, hates guys like seymour and is a bit of a druggy / hippie. Life wouldn't be so bad if you were living in a van down by the river if you shared it with Emma.

Go ahead, I'd like to hear your opinion. What about Alison, Cindy, Lena, Ivy and others?

 

[johnyakuza1]

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Is this real?? LMAO

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Is this real?? LMAO

Nah, just an edit.

 

[ARTISAN365]

Is this real?? LMAO

Its An Edit through a program

 

[BloodyMares]

Don't want a huge back-and-forth, so just replying to this portion. Of course it's more plausible and natural. A lot more. Couples into that kink/lifestyle are real and in long-term permanent relationships with each other, whether living together or married. With few if any exceptions, those long-term partners still have sex with each other and have some sort of mutual respect and bond, usually just playing out a kink or fantasy together for spice. Without that sort of connection and genuine need for each other beyond a kink, the relationship would fall apart very quickly. The whole cruel-mistress wife/never-inside husband or findom/paypig thing is the stuff of S&M fantasies alone, or some simp paying some camwhore online for private humiliation sessions. A couple could play-act it occasionally, but few if any would/could carry that sort of thing permanently in a real long-term relationship. Everything else is the stuff of exaggerated, poorly written erotica.

You're basically just speaking with authority on something you have no familiarity with, assuming your gut feeling is as good as any.

I hear you and agree with you full-heartedly. When Lena started denying Ian sex I had a Vietnam flashback of Ashley cucking Eric which I couldn't stand, but at least in that game it sort of made sense.

Eric stayed an absolute wimp and valued his self-centered desire to be a hero more than his relationship with Ash. Everybody in his life called that decision stupid, including Arthur and his sister. So cucking him felt like some sort of cruel punishment meant to teach him a lesson. "Oh, so you want to leave me all alone and ignore my needs trying to do some dumb shit, well, have it your way. I know some people who value me more than my own so called boyfriend". And in the pornstar route she logically dumps him because that kind of wimp can't really give her anything anymore.

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.


P.S. Regarding the walkthrough, I've seen several comments asking about it. I'm working on it, but in a relaxed pace to prevent another burnout so don't ask for a release window. After all that's happened it's basically once again become a hobby that barely pays so I prefer to mix it up and do something more satisfying when I'm not in the writing mood. That said, I appreciate that there's demand, but in the meantime kudos to ffive for taking up the duty of helping the folks here.

P.P.S, still have over 40 pages of discussion to catch up on, so unlikely to respond to fresh messages (can necro old discussions that resonate with me just like this one). Send DMs if you have urgent questions.

 

[Nova Minx]

Thoroughly enjoyable story and characters. Watching for more.

 

[lipe2410]

I hear you and agree with you full-heartedly. When Lena started denying Ian sex I had a Vietnam flashback of Ashley cucking Eric which I couldn't stand, but at least in that game it sort of made sense.

Eric stayed an absolute wimp and valued his self-centered desire to be a hero more than his relationship with Ash. Everybody in his life called that decision stupid, including Arthur and his sister. So cucking him felt like some sort of cruel punishment meant to teach him a lesson. "Oh, so you want to leave me all alone and ignore my needs trying to do some dumb shit, well, have it your way. I know some people who value me more than my own so called boyfriend". And in the pornstar route she logically dumps him because that kind of wimp can't really give her anything anymore.

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.


P.S. Regarding the walkthrough, I've seen several comments asking about it. I'm working on it, but in a relaxed pace to prevent another burnout so don't ask for a release window. After all that's happened it's basically once again become a hobby that barely pays so I prefer to mix it up and do something more satisfying when I'm not in the writing mood. That said, I appreciate that there's demand, but in the meantime kudos to ffive for taking up the duty of helping the folks here.

P.P.S, still have over 40 pages of discussion to catch up on, so unlikely to respond to fresh messages (can necro old discussions that resonate with me just like this one). Send DMs if you have urgent questions.

Good to see you'll still around BM. Take care of yourself

 

[bleachedturtle]

I've only heard the sample of Broken Dreams because it's a locked patreon post, but it actually sounds pretty good! I'm actually inspired to play Lena as a successful musician rather than the modelling stuff.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Holly is the obvious choice for a love interest if you are going with a prosperous lifestyle where you will build a traditional family unit. I could see having two kids, and little farm house with a white picket fence with her, and some horses and a dog. Going to church with her every Sunday, and being happily married for 50 years.

If you want to have a "Happy Hobo" lifestyle then Emma is the clear winner. She is down for anal on a first date, identifies as a cockaroach, hates guys like seymour and is a bit of a druggy / hippie. Life wouldn't be so bad if you were living in a van down by the river if you shared it with Emma.

This is a bit of a stereotypical assessment, but interesting. Go on, can you tell about the other girls? Especially interesting about Cindy and Cherry.

 

[Firraxa]

When the next update? 2 mounth is already

 

[SerHawkes]

When the next update? 2 mounth is already

Hmm yes because clearly 2 months is clearly enough time to put out an update with so much story, branching, illistrations, and such... Clearly.

Likely May.

 

[JoJoPool]

When the next update? 2 mounth is already

You must be new here

 

[JohnnyKiss]

When the next update? 2 mounth is already

2 months?

 

[_Zebra_]

... and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.

I also hope that this is not the only way this scenario will progress further. I would say that it is possible, for Ian, to develop a cuckold / hotwife fantasy based on the events that transpired between him and Gillian. We can imagine the following scenario.

Chapter 11 - Ian

• you briefly talk with Gillian, part ways and let Lena know that you need some time alone
• you get home, start thinking about Gillian
• flash back to the good times - insert some extra details about their relationship, how they meet, how fun it was to spend time with her and so on
• flash back about the cheating moment - let's assume that he caught her during the act itself; he was in shock, he couldn't move or process the situation;
  • if ian_cuck or turned_on_by_stalkfap: suddenly Gillian turns into Lena (the same way Ian turned into Axel in the preview), she raises her head, looks at you and smiles
  • you are back in your room - maybe you grab your dick to masturbate, maybe you already did or you check Lena stalkfap account again
• ...
• sometime later you talk with Lena about Gillian and you can choose to share how you felt during that moment
  • "I never want to go through that again, to see my gf with somebody else, behind my back" -> Ian hates what happened.
  • "I became insecure, in the end it was my fault because I didn't do this and that for her. This is why with you I want to do everything to make you happy." -> Ian blames himself even though it was not his fault.
  • "It changed something in me, maybe that is why I got turned on by your stalkfap account. Even though it is not the same, it felt like you shared a part of you with somebody else. Remember when you sent me this picture, but you also posted it on stalkfap" -> Involving other persons in what usually are couple activities (nudes, sex) turns Ian on;

Just to make things easier for the story, we should get locked in one of the following paths

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There are lots of possibilities, but to implement and write all that will definitely require a lot of time. This could be a separate game entirely.

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

I hear you and agree with you full-heartedly. When Lena started denying Ian sex I had a Vietnam flashback of Ashley cucking Eric which I couldn't stand, but at least in that game it sort of made sense.

Eric stayed an absolute wimp and valued his self-centered desire to be a hero more than his relationship with Ash. Everybody in his life called that decision stupid, including Arthur and his sister. So cucking him felt like some sort of cruel punishment meant to teach him a lesson. "Oh, so you want to leave me all alone and ignore my needs trying to do some dumb shit, well, have it your way. I know some people who value me more than my own so called boyfriend". And in the pornstar route she logically dumps him because that kind of wimp can't really give her anything anymore.

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.


P.S. Regarding the walkthrough, I've seen several comments asking about it. I'm working on it, but in a relaxed pace to prevent another burnout so don't ask for a release window. After all that's happened it's basically once again become a hobby that barely pays so I prefer to mix it up and do something more satisfying when I'm not in the writing mood. That said, I appreciate that there's demand, but in the meantime kudos to ffive for taking up the duty of helping the folks here.

P.P.S, still have over 40 pages of discussion to catch up on, so unlikely to respond to fresh messages (can necro old discussions that resonate with me just like this one). Send DMs if you have urgent questions.

This is good to hear. One thing I would love in this game is for Ian to be able to befriend and work with Seymour and Axel. Some groundwork already seems laid with Seymour, but to be able to be peers w/ Axel on a sharing route would be a lot of fun.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I hear you and agree with you full-heartedly. When Lena started denying Ian sex I had a Vietnam flashback of Ashley cucking Eric which I couldn't stand, but at least in that game it sort of made sense.

Eric stayed an absolute wimp and valued his self-centered desire to be a hero more than his relationship with Ash. Everybody in his life called that decision stupid, including Arthur and his sister. So cucking him felt like some sort of cruel punishment meant to teach him a lesson. "Oh, so you want to leave me all alone and ignore my needs trying to do some dumb shit, well, have it your way. I know some people who value me more than my own so called boyfriend". And in the pornstar route she logically dumps him because that kind of wimp can't really give her anything anymore.

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.


P.S. Regarding the walkthrough, I've seen several comments asking about it. I'm working on it, but in a relaxed pace to prevent another burnout so don't ask for a release window. After all that's happened it's basically once again become a hobby that barely pays so I prefer to mix it up and do something more satisfying when I'm not in the writing mood. That said, I appreciate that there's demand, but in the meantime kudos to ffive for taking up the duty of helping the folks here.

P.P.S, still have over 40 pages of discussion to catch up on, so unlikely to respond to fresh messages (can necro old discussions that resonate with me just like this one). Send DMs if you have urgent questions.

Hey man. Thanks. I appreciate it. Good to see you back. Hope you're doing well.

Agree that the Eric situation (as much as I despised it and thought it was unrealistic) was at least more logical than this one, depending on how you play Ian. Though of course there are - fair enough to Eva - more factors in creating a smooth narrative here too, with Ian being a playable character.

 

[mommysboiii]

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

What are you talking about? you can play ian as a total wimp if you play him this way get beaten up by robert (high change this is also possible at the mma turnament with low stats) , dont throw away the pics of his ex ,jerk to other pics like alison and jeremy or cindy, dont talk against axel if he touches cindy close to her vagina at the photoshot , underperform with alison and have huge self insecurity about the HUGE dick seiz differences and many more......................
you can play Ian as a HUGE WIMP so it would make perfectly sens that lena,alison,holly or cindy depends with girl ian is in a relationship with would act a certain way or that ian gets problems in the future with competition the writting hardly implys that so stop this relationship restrictions

I would even argue that you can play ian more of a WIMP like perry ,eric or robert if you want to play this way

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.

No dont do this pls they game already has way to many relationship restrictions that make zero sens we dont need mroe on top of that

 

[ffive]

What are you talking about?

I think their complaint is that even if you don't play Ian this way entering the "cuck path" is something of an instant deal: you select the option and no matter how your Ian acted previously they're a cuck.

That said, personally i think this is okay -- the "cuck path" is an option, and having it accessible in this manner also allows the player to have Ian who acts tough on surface but with deep insecurity underneath that takes little to come to light. Introducing some extra requirements or limitations would remove such possibility.

 

[SerHawkes]

I see no point in the path other than to cater to the fetishists.