ffive

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I'm pushing back on the idea that he is as bad as any of Lena's male love interests
Perhaps we have a simple misunderstanding here: am not saying he's exactly as bad as the others. Instead, i'm reacting to the statement that he's "a far cry from what the other male characters", because imo he isn't very far off from them. A bit better yes, but still a very shitty boyfriend material just the same.

Or, to put it differently, so far Mark hasn't demonstrated a single thing that'd convince me that he's worth dating. Quite the opposite -- he seems Jeremy-level thirsty and very little else.
 
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Perhaps we have a simple misunderstanding here: am not saying he's exactly as bad as the others. Instead, i'm reacting to the statement that he's "a far cry from what the other male characters", because imo he isn't very far off from them. A bit better yes, but still a very shitty boyfriend material just the same.

Or, to put it differently, so far Mark hasn't demonstrated a single thing that'd convince me that he's worth dating. Quite the opposite -- he seems Jeremy-level thirsty and very little else.
You are right, we haven't seen any real good qualities from him, but that's also because we've literally only seen him at the party scene, both in GGGB and ORS, we meet him at the club. In terms of horniness I wouldn't really compare him to Jeremy simply because Jeremy goes out of his way to pursue people no matter what, Mark is way more reactive, he only pursues Holly if he's set up with her, he only pursues Lena if she flirts with him. It's been a while since I played GGGB, but even there I'm pretty sure he reacts to Eva grinding on him first.
 

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Holly can potentially give Mark a blowjob in a car while he's driving her back home after Ivy's birthday party. Then the next morning he's texting Lena asking her out. Given he's well aware these two are fairly close friends it's... pretty poor form, to say the least.
Python:
                    if holly_guy == 2:
                        l "{i}Wait, aren't you dating my friend Holly?{/i}"
                        ma "{i}Dating? Barely {image=emoji_laugh.webp}{/i}"
                        ma "{i}She was just curious and asked me to help her have some fun, that's all.{/i}"
Can you really? For me, Mark doesn't text Lena if Holly gives him a blowie. Maybe I'm misremembering stuff.
 

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Holly can potentially give Mark a blowjob in a car while he's driving her back home after Ivy's birthday party. Then the next morning he's texting Lena asking her out. Given he's well aware these two are fairly close friends it's... pretty poor form, to say the least.
Python:
                    if holly_guy == 2:
                        l "{i}Wait, aren't you dating my friend Holly?{/i}"
                        ma "{i}Dating? Barely {image=emoji_laugh.webp}{/i}"
                        ma "{i}She was just curious and asked me to help her have some fun, that's all.{/i}"
Considering he's referred as guy in the code, I don't think he'll ever become Lena's boyfriend.
 

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Can you really? For me, Mark doesn't text Lena if Holly gives him a blowie. Maybe I'm misremembering stuff.
I think there might be an unintended flag conflict here -- generally, Mark will text Lena if she's flirted with him, or if she's given him a blowjob in the bathroom. If i understand it right, the latter is only possible if Mark doesn't leave with Holly, and Lena only has opportunity to flirt with Mark if Holly is not present, or is dating Ian. As a result, the condition for that particular code excerpt will probably never be met. It doesn't change Mark's behavior that'd occur if it wasn't for this bug, though.
 

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I think there might be an unintended flag conflict here -- generally, Mark will text Lena if she's flirted with him, or if she's given him a blowjob in the bathroom. If i understand it right, the latter is only possible if Mark doesn't leave with Holly, and Lena only has opportunity to flirt with Mark if Holly is not present, or is dating Ian. As a result, the condition for that particular code excerpt will probably never be met. It doesn't change Mark's behavior that'd occur if it wasn't for this bug, though.
That makes sense because my Lena and Ian are dating and Holy is blowing Mark in the car so Lena never gets that text from Mark.

I guess of the relationships were different then she might get it.
 

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Answering this inevitably leads in an argument of the definition of NTR and how it applies to the various pairings and constellations the game offers.

Here some groundwork for all aspiring NTR experts:
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There is an english version, you fucking weeb :HideThePain:

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Answering this inevitably leads in an argument of the definition of NTR and how it applies to the various pairings and constellations the game offers.

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There is an english version, you fucking weeb :HideThePain:

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The only issue I have is the pic implies that NTR only happens if there's a couple involved. Reality is, NTR can happen even at crush level—as in, seeing your LI "stolen" even if you're not in a relationship with them.

There's a reason why Otomedori is NTR despite the Cucked and the Fucked aren't even dating yet, just blushing at each other's presence.
 
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The only issue I have is the pic implies that NTR only happens if there's a couple involved. Reality is, NTR can happen even at crush level—as in, seeing your LI "stolen" even if you're not in a relationship with them.

There's a reason why Otomedori is NTR despite the Cucked and the Fucked aren't even dating yet, just blushing at each other's presence.
Here we go...
 

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The only issue I have is the pic implies that NTR only happens if there's a couple involved. Reality is, NTR can happen even at crush level—as in, seeing your LI "stolen" even if you're not in a relationship with them.

There's a reason why Otomedori is NTR despite the Cucked and the Fucked aren't even dating yet, just blushing at each other's presence.
Here we go...
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