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My personal opinion is I dont think so.

I mean Seymour is introduced as this big bad twisted guy that we will see more of in the future (we havent even seen what he is capable of and all that talk)I dont think that he is a small side cheracter or that his content will be limitied with lena.

I could see him interect with emma,alsion and cindy in the future.

I mean you can play lena in so many different ways and Seymour is always interested in lena as a play toy dosent matter if played shy/intelectual , slutty ,charming....... So I dont see why all the sudden alsion or cindy are not intelectual enough for him???I could even see that he wants to get revenge on emma for that coffee thing.
Oh he definitely has some plans for Emma after how she threw coffee on him. He ain't letting go that kinda humiliation. For Allison I'm not sure but Cindy yup.
 

JohnnyKiss

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Lena doesn't want the world to know that she's involved in cheating (as far as Louise is concerned), that's why. Imagine if Jeremy bragged to Ian about fucking Lena. Next time, Ian could go to Louise and say "Hey, Louise, are you cool with your boyfriend sleeping with Lena? Not my business probably but knowing Jeremy..." And here, Lena might keep Jeremy full time but Louise gets pissed at her and she wants to avoid that. Lena is sensitive to moral judgment because she doesn't have Ivy's "I don't care about what anybody says" attitude. Imagine if Holly who dates Ian found out that Lena is a homewrecker. There goes their friendship.
Honestly, that's such a boring way to look at the game. Any story, even that of a porn game, relies on it having some kind of conflict. Without it, you cannot have an interesting story. If the game followed your own logic of Jeremy and Lena just sleeping with one another in secret without any further development than that would be extremely boring. Now, EvaKiss isn't that good of a writer but even the worst writes know that you need conflict for the story to move forward. Jeremy and Lena being discovered would be just that. Just look how Chapter 10 ends - Ian is reunited with his Ex Girlfriend just as he was starting to move past her.

And that's not even considering the very obvious setup that is right there with Jeremy sending Ian videos; you got Louis, Allison and Emma, so considering Lena is another girl that he can fuck is naturally the next one in line. A reach would be something like expected Jeremy and Cindy to hook up because, I don't know, he saw her and Ian sleeping and is now blackmailing her for sex. That's a reach; Jeremy sending videos/images of him fucking Lena to Ian, something that he has done many times before, isn't.
 

BloodyMares

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Lena might not want to share because of what it might mean for her friendship with Louise, but why would Jeremy care about Lena's wishes?
Because he wants to keep banging her and he knows what happens when you cross a woman and he's a chickenshit in heart? He doesn't even have the balls to tell Louise that he doesn't view her as his girlfriend.
My original mode of thinking was that if Lena has been friendly with Cindy she might bring her in for one of the shoots or something.
The contract with Seymour specifically has the NDA. She can't mention it to anybody, and thus can't bring other people to meet Seymour. More people = more risk. And Seymour is a paranoid weasel so he wouldn't instruct her to bring other people either. He'd prefer her isolated.
 

JoeSte91

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Lena doesn't want the world to know that she's involved in cheating (as far as Louise is concerned), that's why. Imagine if Jeremy bragged to Ian about fucking Lena. Next time, Ian could go to Louise and say "Hey, Louise, are you cool with your boyfriend sleeping with Lena? Not my business probably but knowing Jeremy..." And here, Lena might keep Jeremy full time but Louise gets pissed at her and she wants to avoid that. Lena is sensitive to moral judgment because she doesn't have Ivy's "I don't care about what anybody says" attitude. Imagine if Holly who dates Ian found out that Lena is a homewrecker. There goes their friendship.
Isn't that completely possible though? There's an earlier moment where Lena can tell Louise about seeing Jeremy with Ivy and there's a player choice to tell Louise. Ivy is already Lena's friend, but she has the choice to choose to be honest with Louise over protecting Ivy in that moment.

A similar option for Ian to attempt to sabotage Jeremy with Lena by telling Louise would fall under the same choice, albeit trying to protecting his own fuckbuddy relationship with Lena vs sharing her. There would the the interesting consequence of having Lena pissed at him for outing her, possibly damaging his own relationship with Lena and Jeremy's by choosing that nuclear option.

I get that Lena isn't Ivy, but Lena is already cheating and if I remember correctly she sends a picture or two to Jeremy already. All it really requires is for Jeremy to share it, believing Ian will keep it secret. Lena's objections need not factor in, and it's already out of her control, which is an interesting avenue for the game. Maybe not one that Eva will explore, but not a stretch to be possible.
 

mommysboiii

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Oh he definitely has some plans for Emma after how she threw coffee on him. He ain't letting go that kinda humiliation. For Allison I'm not sure but Cindy yup.
I mean i could see how alison is intedouced to him on a boring book party which ian where ian introduce his book

she kinda want a new job with more responsibilities which he could give her. She seems like she wants to climb that career ladder and he seems liek a easy way.

But I am also interested how axel can get in contact with alison because i still think that alsion is getting red while meeting him first time with ian and ivy was not a accident.
 
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BloodyMares

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Honestly, that's such a boring way to look at the game. Any story, even that of a porn game, relies on it having some kind of conflict. Without it, you cannot have an interesting story. If the game followed your own logic of Jeremy and Lena just sleeping with one another in secret without any further development than that would be extremely boring. Now, EvaKiss isn't that good of a writer but even the worst writes know that you need conflict for the story to move forward. Jeremy and Lena being discovered would be just that. Just look how Chapter 10 ends - Ian is reunited with his Ex Girlfriend just as he was starting to move past her.

And that's not even considering the very obvious setup that is right there with Jeremy sending Ian videos; you got Louis, Allison and Emma, so considering Lena is another girl that he can fuck is naturally the next one in line. A reach would be something like expected Jeremy and Cindy to hook up because, I don't know, he saw her and Ian sleeping and is now blackmailing her for sex. That's a reach; Jeremy sending videos/images of him fucking Lena to Ian, something that he has done many times before, isn't.
What you also need is buildup. If things just happen, then the drama only annoys most players. For example, nothing alluded to the Holly drama given the previous throuple fantasy that Lena could have about both of them and how sweet all of them are to each other. And so, after that, mostly forced, drama, there was no payoff. Both Ian and Lena got cockblocked from Holly for completely artificial reasons. Also, if you have drama every single chapter, it'll get stale eventually. In Chapter 10 there was potential drama of Ian and Lena breaking up, or Lena cheating on Ian for the first time as well as Cindy not really willing to go through with her breakup with Wade, and then Cherry was sighted with Axel (for those on Cherry path). In Chapter 11 prologue the drama of Lena suddenly dominating Ian can surface + Gillian showed up. Let Eva deal with one drama at a time instead of having to juggle it all at once. You can't focus both on drama and on sex scenes because drama usually gets in the way of content, and people want content more than they want drama.
 
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mommysboiii

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What you also need is buildup. If things just happen, then the drama only annoys most players. For example, nothing alluded to the Holly drama given the previous throuple fantasy that Lena could have about both of them and how sweet all of them are to each other. And so, after that, mostly forced, drama, there was no payoff. Both Ian and Lena got cockblocked from Holly for completely artificial reasons. Also, if you have drama every single chapter, it'll get stale eventually. In Chapter 10 there was potential drama of Ian and Lena breaking up, or Lena cheating on Ian for the first time as well as Cindy not really willing to go through with her breakup with Wade, and then Cherry was sighted with Axel (for those on Cherry path). In Chapter 11 prologue the drama of Lena suddenly dominating Ian can surface + Gillian showed up. Let Eva deal with one drama at a time instead of having to juggle it all at once. You can't focus both on drama and on sex scenes because drama usually gets in the way of content, and people want content more than they want drama.
I agree with you on every point but we are in chapter 10 now and slowly things should get messy and tension/corruption/kinkyness should get higher I mean 10 chapters are left.

the build up for the relationships are done and eva has build a amazing foundation.
 
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ArcherHades46

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Are the sex scenes in this game animated?
Already in the released versions there are animations, go through the game and see. And by the way, gentlemen, I appeal to the audience, more than a million people have already watched this game, do not raise a riot. Let's hope the game gets an update this week. Eva, hear us!
 
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fatpussy123

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Because he wants to keep banging her and he knows what happens when you cross a woman and he's a chickenshit in heart? He doesn't even have the balls to tell Louise that he doesn't view her as his girlfriend.
I literally said that in the message you're responding to dude
 

SerHawkes

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I literally said that in the message you're responding to dude
Fight fight fight! Bang bang bang!

My two cents would be have Jeremy get actually punished and forced to come clean to Louise and go from there. Dude gets so much leeway and his only "punishment" is Louise breaking up with him if Lena outs the jackass. Meanwhile our bro Ian, if he gets caught, has Jeremy double standard him if he is seen with Cinders and tells Ian to come clean, or gets sent into the dog house if he just so happens to make kissy faces with Holly if he is also interested in Lena. All in all, it's a fucking joke.
 

fatpussy123

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Fight fight fight! Bang bang bang!

My two cents would be have Jeremy get actually punished and forced to come clean to Louise and go from there. Dude gets so much leeway and his only "punishment" is Louise breaking up with him if Lena outs the jackass. Meanwhile our bro Ian, if he gets caught, has Jeremy double standard him if he is seen with Cinders and tells Ian to come clean, or gets sent into the dog house if he just so happens to make kissy faces with Holly if he is also interested in Lena. All in all, it's a fucking joke.
True. The only playthrough where he isnt somehow winning is one in which Ian is fully on hogging Alison, doesnt send Emma his way, and Lena outs him to Louise. Even then Ivy is still leading him on, we will have to see how that plot point progresses.
 

SerHawkes

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True. The only playthrough where he isnt somehow winning is one in which Ian is fully on hogging Alison, doesnt send Emma his way, and Lena outs him to Louise. Even then Ivy is still leading him on, we will have to see how that plot point progresses.
Indeed. Though considering I ain't one for Yandere Pussy, all for Tsundere, Jeremy can have Alison. Even then, the punishments are a joke.

As an aside, shame we don't have a true tomboy, semi buff girl for Ian to snu snu.
 
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BloodyMares

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I agree with you on every point but we are in chapter 10 now and slowly things should get messy and tension/corruption/kinkyness should get higher I mean 10 chapters are left.

the build up for the relationships are done and eva has build a amazing foundation.
The pace should be faster, yes, but gradually, not from 20 to 100. The buildup for the main characters and main relationships have been done, but not for their evolution and moresomes or serious conflicts that will impact the status quo in a meaningful way. So far both Ian and Lena could get mad at some people but no matter how often Ian tells Jeremy that he's not interested in his womanizing news or how often Lena is annoyed by Ivy, they're still friendly with each other. If we'll have a possibility of Ian discovering about Lena's connection with Jeremy, then it needs to happen for all branches (otherwise too messy) and therefore prepare for the moment where Ian's relationship can get a serious nosedive with Jeremy so that several paths could be converged into a few branches: Ian is friends with Jeremy or Ian hates Jeremy, as well as tracking Lena's state. The cuck route has just been introduced, so probably soon Lena will get an opportunity to try doing it with Jeremy even while in relationship with Ian. And once you have all the puzzle pieces in place, THEN you can work on a whole thing and move the drama forward to create new possibilities. There are a lot of branches to consider, so you can't rush it either because it creates plot holes.

The possibility for a threesome / cuckqueaning was set up by Ivy's game in Chapter 7 where Louise begged Lena to play with Jeremy just to keep Ivy away, it was just on hold until it was developed further in Ch 10. But sure, have it your way. It's not like I've been working on the scripts for almost 2 years or anything to get accustomed with Eva's writing style and limitations.
 
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