TamaMountain

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pretty sure when she said experience she meant she has no experience WRITING those types of characters. y'all jumping the gun here. if she includes those characters then so be it. if she doesnt then its okay as well. also as some have mentioned her previous trans character was not so well received hence her trepidation venturing into that territory.
 

Redgy

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pretty sure when she said experience she meant she has no experience WRITING those types of characters. y'all jumping the gun here. if she includes those characters then so be it. if she doesnt then its okay as well. also as some have mentioned her previous trans character was not so well received hence her trepidation venturing into that territory.
Yeah, but didn't she have no experience writing at all before GGGB? Yet it didn't stop her from creating a game with a whole bunch of crazy smut that we all know and love :whistle:
 

GrimWraith

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Well in whichever manner she said it, there is not going to be any gay content in the game. Honestly there is no use talking about what her intentions were when she wrote the post as the result still remains the same.
 

bauman

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During GGGB's development Eva Kiss mentioned multiple times she doesn't focus on gay/lesbian/trans content because that's not her thing. For example, the Jasmin content was added initially as a stretch goal for high tier patrons. ORS is even more vanilla than GGGB, so don't expect any content that wasn't featured in GGGB, and even that is pushing it.
 
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Rythan25

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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
 
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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
So, do you still want the compressed version or do we want to make out instead?
 

Redgy

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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
 

Satiro

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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
AMEN!!!!
 

DatBoit

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What are you arguing about? Eva didn't blame it solely on lack of experience. She literally said that she will not portray a trans/sisssy/gay route for Ian because
1) it's not her thing, AND
2) she lacks experience with it

There is nothing dramatic here at all. She has admitted to what you want her to admit. I would imagine that people who are trans and gay all have had a special experience; struggling with feelings of not belonging, finding who you are, coming to terms with it, being forced to face the judgement of others etcetera. Portraying that is not easy, and should probably not be done by someone who lacks the knowledge to make an accurate portrayal of it.

And while you can absolutely do enough research to do it, it again comes down to the fact that she feels it's not her thing and that it is therefore best left to others who already have that competence. You don't need to have experience with everything you write, but considering today's popular culture (books, movies, porn etcetera), it does not suprise me that someone has more experience with suger daddies, bimbos, drug dealers and incest than they do with understanding all the emotions that a trans or gay person goes through.
 

TamaMountain

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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
the balls on this man. salute. i pray for your safety in this thread. everyone give him strength.
 

xgrotesc

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I'm just here to find out if there is a "compressed" version of the 0.5 Final (the last one is for beta)... and instead I get to read two pages of people whinning about diversity and inclusion... fuck me... even on a porn site I cant escape this garbage... wow... I guess every zone is now a "safe zone", except for people like me who dont give a fuck, and just want to live and let live...
It's a forum and people discuss things here, like in any other forum. It's actually why they're called forums, in case the name hasn't yet tipped you off to that. In this case, the issue being discussed is related to content that might or might not fit the game in question and people making their arguments, some better than others, but they all have a right to discuss them, so long as they can keep it civil. So, my advice to you is to deal with it. If you don't like reading people's ideas while discussing a certain topic, probably a forum is not the best place for you to wander, and you can always just visit the OP thread where the links for the new versions get posted.
 

Redgy

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What are you arguing about? Eva didn't blame it solely on lack of experience. She literally said that she will not portray a trans/sisssy/gay route for Ian because
1) it's not her thing, AND
2) she lacks experience with it

There is nothing dramatic here at all. She has admitted to what you want her to admit. I would imagine that people who are trans and gay all have had a special experience; struggling with feelings of not belonging, finding who you are, coming to terms with it, being forced to face the judgement of others etcetera. Portraying that is not easy, and should probably not be done by someone who lacks the knowledge to make an accurate portrayal of it.

And while you can absolutely do enough research to do it, it again comes down to the fact that she feels it's not her thing and that it is therefore best left to others who already have that competence. You don't need to have experience with everything you write, but considering today's popular culture (books, movies, porn etcetera), it does not suprise me that someone has more experience with suger daddies, bimbos, drug dealers and incest than they do with understanding all the emotions that a trans or gay person goes through.
Sounds almost legit but think about Ashley for a minute and how Eva portrayed her newfound interest in girls. I don't know if Eva is bi herself but I think it was handled rather well, especially how Ashley decided not to put any lables on her sexual orientation and just go with it for now. Trans characters would definitely be a diffrent cup of tea but gay characters aren't that different from bi characters, which Eva has already proven she can handle (she's written 5 so far). But from what I remember people were asking for a gay route for Ian, so Eva won't even have to go that far out of her comfor zone - she could stick with bi characters if she wanted to. That's it though, seems she didn't want it. That's fine, not exactly what she said but probably what's going on. So let's not put down Eva's creative writing abilities.
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Princess Groundhog

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I am one of the people who was hoping for a bi route for Ian (come on, Jeremy's cock is all over his phone, the story writes itself!) but I fully respect Eva's choice and vision as the author of her story.
 

slightchance

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I am one of the people who was hoping for a bi route for Ian (come on, Jeremy's cock is all over his phone, the story writes itself!) but I fully respect Eva's choice and vision as the author of her story.
Where/when did she even state that ORS won't have the option later on? It's all hearsay as far as I know.

It took EvaKiss a lot of updates in GGGB to warm up to the idea of a madman like Arthur and then she almost made him her top priority. Like you said, a bisexual Ian isn't more complicated to write than any other character she's written so far.
 
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patachoucs

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Where/when did she even state that ORS won't have the option later on? It's all hearsay as far as I know.

It took EvaKiss a lot of updates in GGGB to warm up to the idea of a madman like Arthur and then she almost made him her top priority. Like you said, a bisexual Ian isn't more complicated to write than any other character she's written so far.
She said that in a Q&A on Patreon just a couple of days ago. So yeah, no bi path for Ian. But threesomes will happen, MMF AND FFM. And she pretty much confirmed we'll have the poly path with Holly Lena and Ian.
 
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Aha, okay. Seems a bit weird that she, as a woman, would shy away from drawing more penises. I thought they secretly love to watch sword fights online. :sneaky:
Why? It not being her thing is not a scandal, right? If you don't know much about it then fine. She admitted to both iirc and that is it. Let's just be glad that she is honest about it and doesn't make up anything like Tatu back then.
 
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