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Exactly. I can't wait to see other characters play a role in this. Unpopular opinion, but I want to see Ms. Van Dyke get some action, too, whether it's gonna' be lesbian or not. But I am all for variety.
Yes ! Seniors have a sex life too :)
 
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A bit of build-up is cool. It makes the desire grow. One sure thing is I don't want to share Cindy with anybody in the game.
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In that kind of game, with different characters, I really enjoy a "reversed corruption" path. For example, in GGGB, helping Jessica to deal with her drug problem, and make her follow the artistic career she wants, while being good Ash's girlfriend. It's really satisfying.

In the case of Cindy, it would be something like teaching her that the whole world cannot go her way all the time and helping her find herself, what she likes and what to do with her life - if possible by being a supportive, but not a simp, boyfriend. She has the potential to be a real sweetheart, at the end. But it would definitely require a bit of work ;)
I don't think her actual boyfriend is what she needs since he is way too passive. Cindy definitely has some issues - she doesn't really know who she is and what she wants - and needs someone that really cares. Even if it would complicated, since she acts like a pampered princess sometimes. She's clearly a character that could take bad decisions and follow the wrong, abusive people if left alone ; which is basically what happens already in the game. With her passive boyfriend, she already asks Ian out, and even with him around, she has no problem drinking Axel's words and agrees to be his model, despite not knowing him. She has just enough maturity and lucidity to ask Ian, someone she can trust, to be here too.
To me, Cindy is definitely the character that walks on a thin line right now. She can either be a fulfilled, happy young woman, or a dumb broken slut, depending on the people she meets. More than any other female character.

She's definitely the non-protag, female character I'm the most interested in. Even if Alison is something too, if her "I love you" is sincere. Those two girls are definitely the ones you have to fight for, if you want to build a serious relationship.
 
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Brickman

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"reversed "corruption", wouldn't you call that "redemption"? lol but I agree, I really enjoyed Jessica's redemption path in GGGB, and also Jack's, even Eva can have some redemption after going full slut in the begging but save her relationship with Dave and in the endgame they have an even better relationship. In ORS I see redemption paths being possible for Cindy and hopefully Ivy, and maybe Axel and Jeremy too.
Cindy's storyline is one of the most promising right now thanks to all the nice buildup Eva Kiss has been setting up so far I think, and I also want to see more development with Holly, it's about time. But honestly every character has something interesting going on, Alison, Cherry, even Emma. For Lena I'm really looking forward to her development with Axel and Seymour, the scene with the polaroids and the photoshoot were really hot and an awesome buildup too
 
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Honestly, it is too early to say if any of the the characters need redemption in ORS. Beyond the stripping (*) and the bitchy attitude towards older women there is very little wrong with Ivy. Of course we don't know her attitude to drugs but unless she is trading sex for drugs I think she is very much in the clear as compared to Jessica. There is something going on with her and Axel but that needn't be insidious. Cindy is not content with her life and wants it to be more glamorous. Not something that would be termed corruption.

I have mixed feelings about Jeremy. On one hand I feel he treats women like warm fleshlights on the other he is a decent friend. He lets sex cloud his judgement but he is kinda okay, I guess. Axel seems like he is evil but we only have Lena's word for it. Slipping in the photos and meeting Lena's parents was manipulative but not downright evil, in my opinion. His interactions with Ian have been quite okay.

Right now, it is best to sit back and watch as Eva weaves her net. The set up is not complete yet.
 

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Axel seems like he is evil but we only have Lena's word for it. Slipping in the photos and meeting Lena's parents was manipulative but not downright evil, in my opinion. His interactions with Ian have been quite okay.
Dude, he beat up Robert. His excuse for that was "Sorry, I just got so emotional cuz I love you so much" :WaitWhat: Ladies, if a guy every tells you that in real life after he beats you or someone else up just fucking run.
Also real life is not really an anime - there are no "evil" or "good" people there are just people and Eva is trying to keep this game close to life. For me it's clear that Alex was an abusive boyfriend to Lena and should be clear to everyone that Jeremy treats women like a real asshole. Can they still be great friends to their male buddies? Sure. Can they be great specialists in their field? Sure. Does that somehow make up for the fact that they can't treat women right? Not really.
 

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For me it's clear that Alex was an abusive boyfriend to Lena...
I don't know what makes it clear to you, but I'm guessing for me and other people that's certainly not clear, at least at this point. We know he cheated on her for some time and that makes him a lying motherf*cker, but it doesn't make him abusive as a boyfriend. Too be considered abusive he'd have to either been 1) physically violent or intimidating 2) mentally or emotionally abusive by verbally insulting her, degrading her, making her constantly question her worth as a woman and as a human being. I don't remember any of that being mentioned so far in the story.
 
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I don't know what makes it clear to you, but I'm guessing for me and other people that's certainly not clear, at least at this point. We know he cheated on her for some time and that makes him a lying motherf*cker, but it doesn't make him abusive as a boyfriend. Too be considered abusive he'd have to either been 1) physically violent or intimidating 2) mentally or emotionally abusive by verbally insulting her, degrading her, making her constantly question her worth as a woman and as a human being. I don't remember any of that being mentioned so far in the story.
That's why I said to me as in a person with a degree in psychology, who spent some time in class learning about a cycle of abuse in a romantic relationship. I don't feel like going in depth about sings of an absive partner on a porn forum but I feel like I should point out again that:
1) physically violent or intimidating
HE BEAT UP ROBERT. Out of fucking blue! Why does everyone keep forgetting this? xDD That's pretty damn violent and intimidating in my book.
Also your check list is lacking, not every option has to be present, yada, yada yada.
 

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Nah, Robert was beeing annoying. He was asking for it when he got between Axel and Lena all aggressiv. Robert was the one starting it by trying to push Axel out the door, Robert was way out of line in my opinion, if you put your hands on someone it's on. Then add the fact that Robert is a big prick himself.
 
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Dude, he beat up Robert. His excuse for that was "Sorry, I just got so emotional cuz I love you so much" :WaitWhat: Ladies, if a guy every tells you that in real life after he beats you or someone else up just fucking run.
Also real life is not really an anime - there are no "evil" or "good" people there are just people and Eva is trying to keep this game close to life. For me it's clear that Alex was an abusive boyfriend to Lena and should be clear to everyone that Jeremy treats women like a real asshole. Can they still be great friends to their male buddies? Sure. Can they be great specialists in their field? Sure. Does that somehow make up for the fact that they can't treat women right? Not really.
Forgive me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Robert got beat up. But if you believe that Ian had enough reason to beat up Robert then Axel probably had enough as well. Robert is being a git in both circumstances and maybe beating him up was too much but he certainly deserved to be taken down a peg or two.

Everything else in your next paragraph, I have already said in my previous post. I still don't get the abusive to Lena bit though. Care to explain?

The discussion was about whether any or all the characters had a redemption path in ORS like some of the characters in GGGB did. Jessica and Jack the two characters in GGGB who had the redemption path had many more problems than Axel and Jeremy. Any and all charges you level against Axel could be leveled against Jack too. Add to that a drug habit and sharing pictures of his 'conquests' without their consent (which to be fair, even Jeremy does) make quite an unappetizing love interest. But he was a love interest. And there were paths to convert him from a compulsive druggie philanderer to a happily monogamous boyfriend.
 

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That's why I said to me as in a person with a degree in psychology, who spent some time in class learning about a cycle of abuse in a romantic relationship. I don't feel like going in depth about sings of an absive partner on a porn forum but I feel like I should point out again that:
I'm not questioning your skills, I'm just saying there's no information regarding it to make that statement. Once again, the only thing that we know Axel did wrong in his relationship with Lena is that he cheated on her. Is it a bad thing? Yes it is! Is that considered being abusive? No it isn't!

HE BEAT UP ROBERT. Out of fucking blue! Why does everyone keep forgetting this? xDD That's pretty damn violent and intimidating in my book.
Also your check list is lacking, not every option has to be present, yada, yada yada.
He did beat up Robert, but as far as I know he never dated Robert, so I'm missing a bit the point here. Also, when he did that Lena had already broke up with him for some time, so he was no longer her boyfriend. You can say that he does have a temper and he does seems a bit manipulative, but once again, with the information we have so far there's no indication whatsoever of him being an abusive boyfriend.
 

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Bug....
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the latest update has a save/load bug.
I try to load a save while in the middle of a game, and it saves over my existing save.
I basically screwed my save by overwriting it, when I clicked "load."
That should probably be fixed. I now have to start over again.
 
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Brickman

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I'd say Axel ticks a few boxes in the "abusive boyfriend" checklist. Maybe he never beat up Lena but he is pretty manipulative, and him showing up at her workplace and blocking the door and refusing to let her get started on her job unless she agrees to talk with him seems pretty abusive, or at least toxic as fuck. I know I wouldn't like to have a crazy girlfriend pulling those kind of things on me.
 

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Who's your favourite MC



After finishing GGGB I knew I wanted to try something a bit different and challenge myself. Ashley was a fun female main character to play with and I know many of you guys loved all the possibilities she offered.

This time around I wanted to write deeper and more complex characters, and not limit myself to a female point of view, which would've made the game feel very similar to GGGB, but add the masculine POV with Ian. This opened up a ton of new possibilities for me, things I would've liked to explore in GGGB but couldn't, and it's allowed me to build really fun character relationships with Alison, Holly, Cindy, Lena herself... Character interactions that I feel you guys are really enjoying!

I love both Ian and Lena and I really enjoy being able to explore the story from the two points of view at the same time, but what about you? You enjoy playing with one character more than with the other? Are you like me and feel they complement each other? Let me know in the poll down below!

I prefer playing as Ian
I prefer playing as Lena
I enjoy playing them both!
 
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