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I never said that her sex with Ian is bland, though. My point was that, relative to her sex with others thus far — namely Mike, as well as her last scenes with Robert and Louise — her sexual nature with the aforesaid characters is more licentious, shameless, debauched; call it what you will. With these characters, it comes across as sex being more tension-heavy than chemistry-based, if that makes sense. She has more in common with Ian, suggesting that a possible romance is greater, but she can “give in” to any of her darker desires with the others, without the pressure of needing to adhere to any binding social norms, indicating that it’s perhaps what she needs to navigate her way through any unresolved feelings, thoughts or memories with Axel. This last point is why I think, from literary and psychology points of view, that it makes sense if Lena explores and enjoys this other, more personal and intimate side of herself before deciding on any serious relationship with Ian, or anyone else in the story. It would just add a sense of realism to the plot.
I actually think the story, with all of the different routes, is really well written. And I’d say that the Ian-Lena route speaks to a wider, societal topic. At least in the developed world, we still tend to stereotype people negatively for any kinks, fetishes or lifestyles they dare to reveal to their partners and close social circles. It’s shaky ground, I’d imagine, for many people to reveal a part of themselves that could result in shame, derision or losing another person’s respect. So, I guess, for many, it’s easier to explore those desires and needs with strangers and people for whom any respect is little to non-existent. We get this in the game, which I believe is an accurate reflection. For Lena, it’d be Mike and Robert, respectively. On a route where she dates multiple characters, including Ian, there’s more to lose with Ian, so she’s more measured and tactful.
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Lol didn't she already payed her bills the next day after blowing Jeremy?
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I think I'm done experimenting with the Ian/Lena low approval route now. Frankly I don't like it, the narrative insistence on their pairing really grates at me when you attempt keep their approval low on purpose. The relationship meter is almost completely ignored.
Look at this:
I don't understand the point of the approval meter if it practically plays no role. Who enjoys kissing a guy they feel "meh" about in a romantic fashion? I really wish Evakiss would write alternative outcomes for low approval. I feel like there are far too few options for the variable relationship the approval meter is supposed to be used for.
Now this next one will be a chapter 7 spoiler:
Obviously you get make the choice to progress their relationship and maybe it would be unfair to lock that behind approval for people who honestly like their relationship.
I just feel that it stands out like a coca cola ad in a graveyard, that their relationship is the only one you can coast through with no worries. Shouldn't there be at least some sort of equation that tracks that their interactions actually match their relationship stat?
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Obviously you get make the choice to progress their relationship and maybe it would be unfair to lock that behind approval for people who honestly like their relationship.
I just feel that it stands out like a coca cola ad in a graveyard, that their relationship is the only one you can coast through with no worries. Shouldn't there be at least some sort of equation that tracks that their interactions actually match their relationship stat?
I think that for the sake of simplicity, and to avoid gating the game way too much, event/triggers get priority towards approval.
I think that approval is used to determine in some points of the story the outcome. Like, when Lena has a decision to continue with Robert, or Seymours photoshop. Then some triggers and the approval controls which decisions are available.
I can see in that test you are doing a point when Lena has to decide if she wants Ian a a romantic partner, and the approval then should have an use.
I dont think that it's a bad thing, it happens everywhere (Like you can kiss Cindy, even if you skip the photoshop, and she talks to you as if you were in the first), in everygame. Those inconsistencies are hard to track due to the high amount of variables in the game. Just happens that you realized that with Lena x Ian, but happens with other characters as well, i dont think that's Eva forcing you towards Lena x Ian
Because both of them are MC, we might get a lot of entry and exit points in their relationship, but that's the nature of this VN. You can perfectly have a game with both of them not interested in each others, but due to their backstory, they started the game having some kind of attraction that you can chose to not follow.
I think that approval is used to determine in some points of the story the outcome. Like, when Lena has a decision to continue with Robert, or Seymours photoshop. Then some triggers and the approval controls which decisions are available.
I can see in that test you are doing a point when Lena has to decide if she wants Ian a a romantic partner, and the approval then should have an use.
I dont think that it's a bad thing, it happens everywhere (Like you can kiss Cindy, even if you skip the photoshop, and she talks to you as if you were in the first), in everygame. Those inconsistencies are hard to track due to the high amount of variables in the game. Just happens that you realized that with Lena x Ian, but happens with other characters as well, i dont think that's Eva forcing you towards Lena x Ian
Because both of them are MC, we might get a lot of entry and exit points in their relationship, but that's the nature of this VN. You can perfectly have a game with both of them not interested in each others, but due to their backstory, they started the game having some kind of attraction that you can chose to not follow.
I really liked the way the fight took place in chapter 7, jiujitsu especially. If that is to serve as the basis for how future fights take place I'm all down for it.
Also the taunt mechanic is just brilliant. Maybe with the combination of wit and charisma stats, Ian can get access to better insults? Anyways chapter 7 is a huge step forward for Ian's route. Felt like there was real progression gameplay wise and also narrative wise.
Also the taunt mechanic is just brilliant. Maybe with the combination of wit and charisma stats, Ian can get access to better insults
? Anyways chapter 7 is a huge step forward for Ian's route. Felt like there was real progression gameplay wise and also narrative wise.
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Wait what? I didn't experience any fight scene at all, how do you get it?
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Approval works normally with all other characters, it means unlocking the dialogue options with little yellow and red faces. It's for example possible to be at an approval rating with Seymour as Lena that allows you to pick all of positive/neutral/negtive viewpoints towards him.
I also think Ian has a choice towards Lena that differs in the early game, unsure. My problem is that it isn't utilized enough.
Yeah, before going on that date you get a choice to go on it in the first place. My problem is that approval doesn't gate the availability of this choice or the events during the date. Lena and Ian will act as if their approval is at least at the mid-point with one another.
It's not about being forced towards something. Ian/Lena has plenty of points where you can decide not to go on dates. I think at the point leading up to the live-music date it was the third choice? Ian had two points where he chose to ask Lena at that point and Lena had the choice to accept the live-music date or not.
Absolutely. When you go on the initial date and Lena later denies the second one, supporting characters will comment that something might still happen or not. So I think it's safe to say that we've not seen the last of Ian/Lena, even those of us who've supposedly said "no" for good. Jeremy and Ivy seems to be the characters that sort of act as commentators towards Ian and Lena's progression, they will both be like "maybe something will come, but whatever, other people to date."
My issue isn't that there aren't options not to do their relationship, my issue is inconsistent games design. I think it would be fun to play a playthrough where Lena and Ian tries to date but it just doesn't work. Regardless of approval, if you choose to continue their pairing, they will act as if their approval is high.
I'd just like an alternative.
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Can someone hand me a save? I'm honestly curious to see the fight scene (Lena didn't want anything to do with Robert in my playthrough).
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Well this isn't a UFC event, martial artists doesn't get paid much until they hit the top rankings in the big league, so many of them have to take a lot of different jobs on the side. But considering Ian only has trained kickboxing and gotten a two short BJJ sessions, he wouldn't get far in real life. Jeremy seems to only train striking, so if he's matched with a great wrestler, he would struggle. But this is a erotic VN and not a MMA simulator, so I don't think we should put too much into those things.
I hope Ian and Jeremy get's put up against each other. We need some more drama.
Come to think about it, Iv'e actually yet to make that scene happen, Usually I have Lena snitch about J's cheating to louise, In my other playthroughs Lena refused or Jeremy broke it off because Ian is his friend.Lol didn't she already payed her bills the next day after blowing Jeremy?
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Well, I personally think there's a difference between IRL sex and porn. You can totally be a sex freak IRL and try all kinds of different things but be disgusted by porn videos. I would know, some videos are unwatchable. Maybe it's just not for her. I suspect she reads lots of erotica though. I know I do.She acts all high and mighty but she has no problem with a face fuck
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I'll tell you (and this will also apply to all other files you see on there):
1. Press the windows button+r at the same time
2. Type "%appdata%"
3. Locate renpy file, click it and locate "Red String" folder
4. Take out file with fight scene and paste it here
It's not even about the save for me, this will also help you if you want a save from someone else.
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Oh that was pretty good, can't wait for the one with Axel (we all know it's gonna happen).
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Found one spot where Ian/Lena approval makes a difference. Low approval gives you the option I added with my amazing mspaint skillz.
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