VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[manscout]

More precisely she can break up with him because she fucked Robert. cue doormat.
Lena is like in total control of their relationship. Ian fucked a girl last night, -4 relationship, Lena fucked Robert, (crickets), Ian kisses Holly, - 7 relationship.
(Also, re early on, that happened last thursday or 5 days ago

I meant to say that Lena starts things with Robert early on (technically speaking she can spend a night with Robert before her first date with Ian), even if Ian only found out about it recently, that's still pretty different from him starting things with Holly when he and Lena are theoretically almost ready to be a couple (and Lena would know the stuff with Holly is recent).

I agree the loss of points because Ian slept with Alison/Cherry is a bit bullshit, but I think it is mostly there to differentiate it from a "100% loyal vanilla OTP IanxLena" route. It would definitely be much better if relationship point losses were more evenly distributed between the times Ian dissapointed Lena and the times Lena dissapointed Ian, it is bullshit that so far there are only consequences for when Ian does something bad. I am holding out hope that's because most of the actually really bad things Lena can do can't be exposed yet, but we'll see.

 

[Cabot]

Re: IanxLenaxHolly

The fact that “rushing” to achieve the IanxLenaxHolly thing at the first chance didn’t work doesn’t mean it’s doomed forever IMO. I think part of the backslash at Lena’s reaction is that some people believe this means the throuple it’s out of the picture forever now, I'd advise patience if that’s the case.

This was always meant to be a long term goal with many requisites needed (I think Eva herself said something along those lines in some Q&A), and chapter 7 was full of hints and foreshadowing that pointed at things not working out for Ian if he hooked up with Holly (if he’s also banging Lena), so this isn’t exactly a surprise; but also that doesn’t imply that goal won’t be attainable under other circumstances.

I know porn usually kind of works under a “low effort/fast reward” premise, but this game is a slow burn, likes to tease and make the player work a little in order to get the desired outcome. Let’s not despair, this is far from over and who knows what the future has in store (for example many people craving for more lesbian content have been quite rewarded this chapter, I’d say).

 

[redraw]

The fact that “rushing” to achieve the IanxLenaxHolly thing at the first chance didn’t work doesn’t mean it’s doomed forever IMO. I think part of the backslash at Lena’s reaction is that some people believe this means the throuple it’s out of the picture forever now, I'd advise patience if that’s the case.

To be sure, I am definitely not arguing that it is off the table, nor that it need be rushed, and I certainly don't think I'm expressing any impatient backlash.

Nor am I addressing the results, rather, it is the path there.

The path feels conspicuously railroaded. The choices feel incongruous and out of sync with our previous patterns.

It's certainly easy to come up with justification for why it might be that way, too. It is very easy to imagine why a close threesome might arise significant anxieties in Lena.

But the narrowness of the event, the discordant choices of the main characters, stands out in a game that has otherwise pretty broad options.

As I'd said before, it wouldn't have to be a perfect result to be more satisfying, nor even the better result, but the unusual and fatalistic sudden choices of the characters, directing towards a uniquely narrow conclusion, is conspicuous.


It's also certainly possible that other options have not been included in the Alpha.

 

[BlandChili]

It's also certainly possible that other options have not been included in the Alpha.

Is it? What choices have been implemented between releases in the past?

 

[potatoezzz]

Yes, current is version v0-8-alpha.

thank you thank you!

 

[redraw]

Like, even if we aren't given any further choices to change the way that unfolds, it seems to be missing a few flag checks to make the reactions align with the characters we've developed and the surrounding events that have occured.

An otherwise freewheeling Lena with minimal emotional attachment, and no shortage of misbehavior on her part, reacts to a considerate, well-behaved Ian not terribly dissimilarly to an emotionally-invested Lena with a full-range Ian.


But maybe that's just an alpha release thing.

 

[redraw]

Is it? What choices have been implemented between releases in the past?

While I have a foggy sense that it has happened previously in Eva's work, I couldn't cite you anything specific -- I'm only speaking in regards to the nature of an alpha version, which are generally understood to not be feature-locked.

 

[MyStupidPornAccount]

Yo, is there a way to prevent the unseen choices setting from switching itself to disabled, sometimes I notice choices not showing up and when I look in the menu both disabled and enabled are highlighted and I need to click enabled to fix it. The option is only present in the main menu so it's a pain to fix every time

 

[Kaustav Dey]

Can't move further after this in android version.

 

[sztrb]

But if Jessica is present in the ORS universe, also is Ashley... Now is possible that Ashley is an Axel client and she can meets Ian for real! If Ian fuck Ashley, I think I'll break my cock cause of wanking!

Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker.

How did I not realise that was Ashley?

While I have a foggy sense that it has happened previously in Eva's work, I couldn't cite you anything specific -- I'm only speaking in regards to the nature of an alpha version, which are generally understood to not be feature-locked.

I feel like there was more dialogue and one or two scenes in even between the alpha, beta and final version of Chapter 7. Although that may be because of things not glitching out as much in the final version...

 

[redraw]

Also regarding Ian and Holly:

The whole 'i invited you to an out-of-town conference and, gosh, now there's only one hotel room' is, like, Sex Pest 101.

How long before Holly's carefully-crafted mask slips and we see her for the nefarious mastermind that she is?

 

[PilotLara]

Yo, is there a way to prevent the unseen choices setting from switching itself to disabled, sometimes I notice choices not showing up and when I look in the menu both disabled and enabled are highlighted and I need to click enabled to fix it. The option is only present in the main menu so it's a pain to fix every time

Can you give me some more info, please? It worked fine for me when I made it. Windows? Mac? Android? Only on starting the game or after switching?

 

[sztrb]

Also regarding Ian and Holly:

The whole 'i invited you to an out-of-town conference and, gosh, now there's only one hotel room' is, like, Sex Pest 101.

How long before Holly's carefully-crafted mask slips and we see her for the nefarious mastermind that she is?

The virginal sex-kitten trope may be tried and tested but it still doesn't make it any less

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

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Correct, the implication if Lena doesn't go is that the game still happens and Jeremy chooses Ivy at the end, same as if Lena had been there but let Ivy take charge

I missed this early reply, but while it hasn't been 100% consistent, that seems to be the general logic (there are other caps earlier in the game). The main thing to me is that in chapter 8 it felt easy to reach those caps, while I was focusing on increasing my stats, I was still playing a route that didn't involve defying Minerva (massive source of stats for Ian). I guess Ian's stats are just really inflated compared to Lena's, which actually makes me speculate for the following chapters:

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That’s a lot of good ideas about the route forward towards that potential halfway time skip point. The amount of relationships and plot lines that are currently unresolved, makes me think it would probably take a further chapter or two, but in general I think your comment show that it’s possible to reach such a point in the game in the not too distant future. Which is something I’ve struggled to see how would be done up until now. So thanks!

 

[Gohan007]

Lena's mom being in hospital will probably serve to introduce Lena's brother.

 

[BlandChili]

Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker.

How did I not realise that was Ashley?

Because it isn't, Eva has directly refuted it.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

Lena's mom being in hospital will probably serve to introduce Lena's brother.

Agree! Do we know anything about her brother other than the strained relationship with the family? And any ideas how he could be involved in the story as a whole? Some kind of relation to Seymour, being Cherry’s current boyfriend or being the guy Ian’s ex cheated with? Those are the possibilites that immediately come to mind, but they all seem a bit far fetched. Obviously it could also be something completely unforeseen.

 

[sztrb]

Because it isn't, Eva has directly refuted it.

Ah, thank you.

Agree! Do we know anything about her brother other than the strained relationship with the family? And any ideas how he could be involved in the story as a whole? Some kind of relation to Seymour, being Cherry’s current boyfriend or being the guy Ian’s ex cheated with? Those are the possibilites that immediately come to mind, but they all seem a bit far fetched. Obviously it could also be something completely unforeseen.

I think it would be a little too ludicrous for things to be that inter-connected within Eva's universe.

 

[SerBelG]

Does anyone have save files with different choices like they made in Being A Dik? It would be very helpful.

 

[sztrb]

Does anyone have save files with different choices like they made in Being A Dik? It would be very helpful.

Save files aren't working in the Alpha Release.