dontcarewhateverno

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The problem is EK went overboard with the cruelty on the cuck path. You can get a better relationship if you have Lena Dom and Ian cuck 1. But there should be an even better middle ground, which existed until the Ian no sex got rail roaded into the cuck 2 path during the chapter 11 prologue. Ideally there'd be three paths, Lena is dominant but they still love each other and sometimes have sex, no sex femdom/not cruel cuckoldry path, and the current cruel cuck 2-3 path.
I thought the turn in that path sucked too (as far as what I was looking for). Heavily disappointed by it and I dropped it altogether. Though I'm also not at all into FemDom or chastity. But I've found playing Lena a little slutty & sex-obsessed while still caring for Ian and not being a downright bitch might give me exactly what I was looking for anyway, as a good alternative. Just don't fuck Axel or Jeremy & have her select MFM when her favorite fantasy comes up at Ivy's in conversation with Holly.

Lena still goes all size-queen in the playthrough, but doesn't come off as a bitch nor is Ian a doormat. Currently, if you want the Holly Trinity too, Lena must cheat with at least one cock to get the MFM convo at the end of the chapter, unfortunately. But hopefully that was just an Alpha-build quirk and will be changed. I'd rather she be a big-dick obsessed horny slut that's a little too much for Ian, but not so much to go behind his back. If that's the only option though (cheating once) while still getting the Holly threesome and MFM paths later, I'll take it.
 

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But this time please as a male protagonist. I'm not really a fan of the Lena playthrough. To much drama and nonesense in her storyline.
See....I disagree with this. I actually think Ian's storyline is incredibly boring in comparison to Lena's. I think Eva is much better at writing for female characters than male characters. This felt like a bit of an experiment to test out two protagonists and while it isn't bad I do find it lacking in certain areas in comparison to GGGB. I think the next game that Eva should go back to a single female protag.
 

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Currently, if you want the Holly Trinity too, Lena must cheat with at least one cock to get the MFM convo at the end of the chapter, unfortunately.
Since this is already meta-gaming the plot for desired outcome, you might find it more acceptable alternative to avoid cheating and just change for a moment the holly_trinity variable to 0 using the console, right before the MMF conversation trigger, then set it back to what it was afterwards. This way you should be able to eat that MMF cake and keep the trinity, too.

Although caveat, it wouldn't surprise me if down the road the game automatically excluded MMF from the trinity route, given it'd lead to Holly being left out. Perhaps this is why it's not included in the first place.
 

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I thought the turn in that path sucked too (as far as what I was looking for). Heavily disappointed by it and I dropped it altogether. Though I'm also not at all into FemDom or chastity. But I've found playing Lena a little slutty & sex-obsessed while still caring for Ian and not being a downright bitch might give me exactly what I was looking for anyway, as a good alternative. Just don't fuck Axel or Jeremy & have her select MFM when her favorite fantasy comes up at Ivy's in conversation with Holly.

Lena still goes all size-queen in the playthrough, but doesn't come off as a bitch nor is Ian a doormat. Currently, if you want the Holly Trinity too, Lena must cheat with at least one cock to get the MFM convo at the end of the chapter, unfortunately. But hopefully that was just an Alpha-build quirk and will be changed. I'd rather she be a big-dick obsessed horny slut that's a little too much for Ian, but not so much to go behind his back. If that's the only option though (cheating once) while still getting the Holly threesome and MFM paths later, I'll take it.
Erm I have saved a Trinity route and Lena has not cheated once. She actually hasn't slept with anyone besides Ian, Louise and Holly.
 

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Since this is already meta-gaming the plot for desired outcome, you might find it more acceptable alternative to avoid cheating and just change for a moment the holly_trinity variable to 0 using the console, right before the MMF conversation trigger, then set it back to what it was afterwards. This way you should be able to eat that MMF cake and keep the trinity, too.

Although caveat, it wouldn't surprise me if down the road the game automatically excluded MMF from the trinity route, given it'd lead to Holly being left out. Perhaps this is why it's not included in the first place.
Oops I've got too much work right now but in a week or so I will definitely have to look into how you manipulate this famous console.
 
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Please tell me that's a bug.
In slightly better news, this is perhaps indeed a bug. Mind you, not Ian and Holly breaking up if Ian is still moping over Gillian, but inability to make the decision to move on early in Ch.12. Because from the game script it seems like it should be an option, it's just the condition for this can't be met in the alpha version of current update.

Perhaps you'll have opportunity to rescue your Ian/Holly relationship in the beta or full update version, when/if it actually makes it here.
 
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Erm I have saved a Trinity route and Lena has not cheated once. She actually hasn't slept with anyone besides Ian, Louise and Holly.
Erm I mean you can't do the Trinity & have the MFM conversation at the end of the chapter in the same run unless she's cheated (with a penis-owner). At least in the Alpha build.
 

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Since this is already meta-gaming the plot for desired outcome, you might find it more acceptable alternative to avoid cheating and just change for a moment the holly_trinity variable to 0 using the console, right before the MMF conversation trigger, then set it back to what it was afterwards. This way you should be able to eat that MMF cake and keep the trinity, too.

Although caveat, it wouldn't surprise me if down the road the game automatically excluded MMF from the trinity route, given it'd lead to Holly being left out. Perhaps this is why it's not included in the first place.
Could be. I'll try that in the meantime though. Thank you. I sometimes just open the script and fumble around changing variables there, but this sounds much easier.
 

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I did a run where Ian was not with anyone except Holly and it still ends up with breakup... Please tell me that's a bug. The only thing I didn't have is ignoring Gillian so I couldn't confide in Holly about that run-in, but is it really meant to be that you get blocked in Chapter 12 about something you chose in Chapter 1-3? That is hella harsh! I simped so hard for Holly and it's a breakup? Really?? Must Ian be buddha priest locked away in cage until Chapter 12 to have a sliver of chance with having Holly as proper GF? What are the crucial points I might have fucked up? :(
That does suck if that's the case where it really does lock you out 9 chapters later. I'd assume this was a scenario Eva didn't consider, since I don't see her generally punishing the player so late on a run for such an early single arbitrary decision. If the lockout were to be indicated in Chapter 5 or 6, it'd be a little more understandable.

You can report bugs to the discord. Maybe get it elevated if it's true there's no other way around this.
 
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