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You are quite right on this. And given how great the writing is, the scores and various flag events will play a role what will happen. For instance, in my main playthrough my MC has high bromance and Mina scores and the Killian/Mina relationship has not deterioriated (I played as a real friend to them), so I truly doubt the revenge video will be all that "revengy" in this case.

I theorise that with high scores the video will be more a warning shot for Ian, Mina telling him with it to start thinking what he could loose. I point this way because with high scores and being on the specific paths you know that
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and Mina knows it too. So I think in this scenario, high relationship scores all around, the video to be hot, but more a "think clearly what you might loose, buster" type.
If the relation scores are low or the MC deliberately torpedoed the Ian/Mina couple, then I think the video will be really a revenge by Mina. And it will be interesting to see how the video comes out, if you have medium scores or were indifferent to the situation.
i dont think that video is going to happen in the first place let alone be real revenge worthy in either case. Mina immediately trying to make a revenge porno would be wildly out of character for her, at least for the way she is right now. its probably an idea that popped into her head in the heat of the moment and the MC will talk her out of it, or Felicia will if he decides not to
i can definitely see that scenario happening down the road though, and the next update should be pretty heavy on Mina and Ian (who was absent this entirenpast update)
 

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i dont think that video is going to happen in the first place let alone be real revenge worthy in either case. Mina immediately trying to make a revenge porno would be wildly out of character for her, at least for the way she is right now. its probably an idea that popped into her head in the heat of the moment and the MC will talk her out of it, or Felicia will if he decides not to
i can definitely see that scenario happening down the road though, and the next update should be pretty heavy on Mina and Ian (who was absent this entirenpast update)
It's strange that people here even think that something could happen with Mina and Felicia there. Cliffhanger was clearly a bait :ROFLMAO:
 

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It's strange that people here even think that something could happen with Mina and Felicia there. Cliffhanger was clearly a bait :ROFLMAO:
While the video will be probably a "on the spot" idea from Mina and likely not happen if the MC is on the lighter side of the moral horizon, since the cliffhanger is intended to keep us playing, I would not totally rule it out. Depending on how you played the prologue and the birthday party, not to forget your relation scores, this video could happen, even on the lighter side of the fence.
 

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She is deciding to take over her father's part of the business not applying to a position as a luxury escort.
Oh you'll see.
He's got to create tension SOMEHOW. And I'm gonna hate it.

Also I hope we're all clear on Victoria ending up in club duties one way or another later in the storyline.
I'll hate that too but at least I can see it coming from a mile away.
 

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While the video will be probably a "on the spot" idea from Mina and likely not happen if the MC is on the lighter side of the moral horizon, since the cliffhanger is intended to keep us playing, I would not totally rule it out. Depending on how you played the prologue and the birthday party, not to forget your relation scores, this video could happen, even on the lighter side of the fence.
It doesn't really matter how u play, it would just ruin Mina's character to have sex or something close to it that early when we don't even started having that kind of relationship with her (groping roleplay where she pretending nothing is hapenning doesn't count).
 

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It doesn't really matter how u play, it would just ruin Mina's character to have sex or something close to it that early when we don't even started having that kind of relationship with her (groping roleplay where she pretending nothing is hapenning doesn't count).
Actually it DOES matter how you play Edwin(or whatever name we gave him)! It is one thing to play a nice guy (who has some inner demons he fights) being a friend to Mina when she needs one or a total asshole Kath will be proud of, preying on a sheltered woman, who is in a moment of weakness.
And I think it will play a role how we treated Ian/Mina, their relationship and the bromance to this point. As I wrote before, in my main playthrough I have high scores with both and was a true friend for them, so I sincerely doubt under these circumstances the video will be made or if made, it will be quite different from a revenge one.
On the other hand, if you played the game as a rat in human form, then I think many bets will be off.
 
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It doesn't really matter how u play, it would just ruin Mina's character to have sex or something close to it that early when we don't even started having that kind of relationship with her (groping roleplay where she pretending nothing is hapenning doesn't count).
The game just has a bit of a problem with calling an apple an apple. We have another friend that got off rubbing herself on MCs dick at least twice while tongue wrestling on every opportunity and it's still just a friendship thing apparently. Man I must've had weird friendships all my life, they weren't like that at all...
 

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The game just has a bit of a problem with calling an apple an apple. We have another friend that got off rubbing herself on MCs dick at least twice while tongue wrestling on every opportunity and it's still just a friendship thing apparently. Man I must've had weird friendships all my life, they weren't like that at all...
Sometimes u need to remember its a porn game not a real life.
There can be 2 options in my opinion with Mina at the start of new update:
1. Nothing sexual will happen.
2. She will ask "pretend"/roleplay with her and it can go a little out of control.
 

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The game just has a bit of a problem with calling an apple an apple. We have another friend that got off rubbing herself on MCs dick at least twice while tongue wrestling on every opportunity and it's still just a friendship thing apparently. Man I must've had weird friendships all my life, they weren't like that at all...
:LOL: I think this specific topic is less about calling an apple an apple, but more about
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There are a lot of little hints, if you are on the path with this specific friend, that she knows they are marching towards a deeper relationship, but since she has her public image to protect, to the outside she rationalises it with "just friends". She KNOWS that will not be the case much longer if the MC stays on this path.
 
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Sometimes u need to remember its a porn game not a real life.
There can be 2 options in my opinion with Mina at the start of new update:
1. Nothing sexual will happen.
2. She will ask "pretend"/roleplay with her and it can go a little out of control.
Sure but the writing is decent and it seems like the dev tries quite hard to make the characters act somewhat reasonable so I don't really buy the "it's just a game" excuse.

When it comes to Minas revenge I think we can either
1. let Feli have a go at it, which Killian is going to LOVE and maybe encourage Mina to shoot some more movies with other girls or
2. co-star ourselves and have the Bromance rating take a nosedive
though I'm not so sure about the impact on the bromance rating since he doesn't seem to have much of a problem with sharing so far.


There are a lot of little hints, if you are on the path with this specific friend, that she knows they are marching towards a deeper relationship, but since she has her public image to protect, to the outside she rationalises it with "just friends". She KNOWS that will not be the case much longer if the MC stays on this path.
On that note, I was wondering about her extra stat,
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What is it directed at? Do we want it higher or lower?
 

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Oh you'll see.
He's got to create tension SOMEHOW. And I'm gonna hate it.

Also I hope we're all clear on Victoria ending up in club duties one way or another later in the storyline.
I'll hate that too but at least I can see it coming from a mile away.
After everything that happened so far do you really believe they (developers) will descend into the cheap corruption tropes that most games using this genre do? I find that as unlikely as a meteor strike wiping us out in the next few years.

Also prety sure it was already stated by the developer themselves that there won't be any incest whatsoever in this game. Victoria is Edwin's moral compass, other than the porn videos showing her past tribulations to raise Edwin doubt we will see anything else.
 
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After everything that happened so far do you really believe they (developers) will descend into the cheap corruption tropes that most games using this genre do? I find that as unlikely as a meteor strike wiping us out in the next few years.
The meteor thing is not as unlikely as most people think.

Also prety sure it was already stated by the developer themselves that there won't be any incest whatsoever in this game. Victoria is Edwin's moral compass, other than the porn videos showing her past tribulations to raise Edwin doubt we will seeanything else.
Yea I wasn't talking about incest or corruption. I just have a feeling she will end up on the Carnation stage through some Kat scheming bullshit at some point, with the MC holding a remote or something. We'll see. But drama has to come in here or there.
 

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If Hana gets half of her father's shares on the business she will have more than enough influence to not fall for such trick. And besides i doubt Kathleen would use such a crude method. My own take is she likely wants another "girl power" there to counterbalance August's gangster ways and Chuck's debauchery so she can impose more of her own vision.
You know, if we didn't have that scene with Pulman and her goon complaining about not being able to "discipline" Hana because she is the boss' daughter and then Pulman saying "there is always a way", maybe that argument would hold. That scene is way too much foreshadowing that Pulman is planning to mess Hana up, and all that talk about the shares and more "girl power" in management is either a diversion to nudge her into a rational train of thought to accept falling into the trap or a welcome side effect if it works that way in the end.

This is what I am hoping happens. The MC getting into a power struggle with Kathleen over Hana and ideally Victoria as well (Kathleen already called her) would be a hot story arc.
Yeah I think it's going that way too if we play nice guy, but if we play bad guy we probably will be helping Pulman corrupt them. I am also curious about that deal Pulman has with the doctor and the drug testing, guess it has something to do with the guy that mysteriously vanished before we got the job.
 

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Sure but the writing is decent and it seems like the dev tries quite hard to make the characters act somewhat reasonable so I don't really buy the "it's just a game" excuse.

When it comes to Minas revenge I think we can either
1. let Feli have a go at it, which Killian is going to LOVE and maybe encourage Mina to shoot some more movies with other girls or
2. co-star ourselves and have the Bromance rating take a nosedive
though I'm not so sure about the impact on the bromance rating since he doesn't seem to have much of a problem with sharing so far.
I estimate that both bromance and relationship scores will play a role how the video, if made, turns out. High scores will help with minimizing the fallout and I too think that high scores might lead to Ian really liking the video and that it becomes more of a "reminder" than revenge. On the other side low scores might turn things quite ugly.



On that note, I was wondering about her extra stat,
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What is it directed at? Do we want it higher or lower?
I think this stat is related/directed at the circumstances how she grew up,
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. I think it is one of the stats we should lower as much as we can, unlike for instance
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Oh you'll see.
He's got to create tension SOMEHOW. And I'm gonna hate it.
I think the danger is that Hana would come to enjoy running the club. That's more than sufficient drama. Making her a house girl is merely an extremely unpleasant experience than can be endured and ended. Marring Hana's very soul is a lot more serious.


You know, if we didn't have that scene with Pulman and her goon complaining about not being able to "discipline" Hana because she is the boss' daughter and then Pulman saying "there is always a way", maybe that argument would hold. That scene is way too much foreshadowing that Pulman is planning to mess Hana up, and all that talk about the shares and more "girl power" in management is either a diversion to nudge her into a rational train of thought to accept falling into the trap or a welcome side effect if it works that way in the end.
It's not impossible, but I think that would be a stretch. Hana is always going to oppose an external influence on her life, she's just ornery that way. But it's a very different thing to oppose internal influences. That's why Kathleen was so insistent on making this idea seem reasonable from Hana's point of view.

Hana only gets the shares if she takes an active role in running the club, and the club is inherently corrupting. If Hana has no stomach for it, she'll be forced to leave and thus be out of Kathleen's hair. But if she can stomach it, then it will be Hana who has to keep *herself* in line rather than Kat and Warren constantly riding herd on her. Either way, Kat wins.

Sure, if an opportunity comes up to get Hana involved in the exhibition I'm sure Kathleen will take it. But while I think that's Warren's big desire, Kathleen seems more interested in preventing Hana from doing something stupid while also giving herself a decent chance at gaining control of the club in the long term. Low risk, high reward.

Just because she's a twisted sadist doesn't mean Kathleen can't prioritize.


Sure but the writing is decent and it seems like the dev tries quite hard to make the characters act somewhat reasonable so I don't really buy the "it's just a game" excuse.

When it comes to Minas revenge I think we can either
1. let Feli have a go at it, which Killian is going to LOVE and maybe encourage Mina to shoot some more movies with other girls or
2. co-star ourselves and have the Bromance rating take a nosedive
though I'm not so sure about the impact on the bromance rating since he doesn't seem to have much of a problem with sharing so far.
As far as Hana's actions in Update 2, I think her grinding the MC is in keeping with their previous relationship: it only happens if the two are already intimate and spend another night together, so it doesn't need to lead to anything more. The issue is with the sudden jump to full-on sex the next morning. That's where I think the relationship advanced faster than it probably should have, possibly to set up the big cliffhanger. We'll know more when we see where the MC and Hana pick up the next time they meet, but my money is on Hana walking things back to a more ambiguous status.

For Mina, I can't see her leaping to have sex with the MC and/or Felicia purely out of spite. I can certainly see her *thinking* about it, and the right sort of MC could certainly encourage her (and probably succeed, eventually). But in the immediate future, honestly, I'd assume it was more of a joke if it wasn't the cliffhanger; feels like more of a bait and switch to be a joke at that point. So given that is WAS the cliffhanger, I think she'll probably focus on something risque but well short of sex; the MC can either try to talk her out of it, or accept and plant the seeds for even more in the future.

On that note, I was wondering about her extra stat,
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What is it directed at? Do we want it higher or lower?
Well, Hana loses a point if she sleeps with the MC on his birthday, and gains a point if we frame taking ownership of the Club in terms of money. I'd say Hana's Anger is an indication of her compulsion to lash out at other people. Consider this line:
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To me, it suggests Hana's anger is the manifestation of the anxiety her mother's condition (and August's general dickery) has put her in. If the MC doesn't help her find a way to diffuse it, it will instead build up and encourage Hana to take it out on other people - those who deserve it... or those who can't defend themselves from it.

Not to go all prequels on us, but I suspect Hana's Anger can lead to suffering.
 

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It doesn't really matter how u play, it would just ruin Mina's character to have sex or something close to it that early when we don't even started having that kind of relationship with her (groping roleplay where she pretending nothing is hapenning doesn't count).
Not to mention I really doubt that Felicia would be down for a three way with her best friend. She may be a pervert, but she at least seems to have her limits
 
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