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Hana's Anger has come up twice, AFAICT.
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True.
I think this industry needs a kind of consolidation and more cooperation between creators. Looking at the numbers BaDIK sports there is no way this could be handled by just a single creator. I estimate there are working at least three, probably more likely four people on it.
The recent increasing demands for adding animations is just a recipe for ultra-long development cycles, which more often than not lead to either poor content, rushed storylines, bad animations and eventually abandonment. It is just ridiculous to expect that from a solo project. But we are spoiled by Games which can pull it off and it is of course not 2012 anymore.
Also it is not only about the animations, there are too many games with really good stories and abysmal artwork and vice versa. Would those creators team up the result would very likely exceed the sum of their underwhelming solo projects.
Mathematically speaking the decrease of workload for a single person is never higher than sharing it with a second one. From 100% to 50% and after that to 33.3% to 25%, thats diminishing returns.
Of course a project cant be seen purely from this mathematical perspective since the workloads regarding coding, storywriting and creating art assets may vary, but you get my drift. Even when you are baking your own bread you rely on a farmer for the grain and a miller for the flour.
So time calls for team projects of at least two creators, and Jeff&Mutt have proven that with their congenial cooperation!
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Hmmm, thats true, not a lot to work with.
Well, fair enough, lets wait a little bit longer and see what happens.
Thanks for answering ename144 !
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BaDIK is famously a one-person show (playtesting aside) and I don't see any particular reason to doubt the claim. It's important to remember that DrPinkCake has sufficient income that he can work on the game full time and runs an extremely powerful rendering setup. He's more than a little maniacal, too, for good and for ill. But it's also important to note that he's the one deciding what constitutes "an animation" for his numbers, and it's entirely possible he counts lots of very small animations separately instead of concatenating them together and calling the end result a single animation.
No problem. I'm hoping we'll learn more when we see her in the second Exhibition, so I'm somewhat eager for the release even though the events aren't really my style. But it sounds like there's a decent chance it will be released (to the public) when I'm off on vacation.
Ah well, just need to keep being patient.
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I have to ask is someone here a club owner patreon and willing to share or will I have to wait till saturday (just to set up my expectations)
oh, i hope Lucy gets a bit of spotlight. i do want to see her interact with Rosalind
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In case of Mina, these are the same characters in a different situation so it doesn't fit with what I was saying (although I probably wasn't clear enough). For PC analogy more fitting would be the 1st exhibition's 2nd and 3rd 'games' where the scenes were the same but with different characters (so basically it was just a flavour change, you could say these were the same models with different "skin" having double dildo or getting bukkaked). It's still not that bad though due to long-term consequences this will have. I actually really appreciate that (continuing Mina analogy) we can learn about Mina's archery club or her parents or her travels or during "never have I ever" game some more wild things she does. This actually adds to replayability. There are games however were devs take pride in the number of renders even though when you look closely it's quantity over quality.
Anyway, I haven't said that same scene with different character <=> bloat since I was aware that even in PC this happens too (although it's rare and it always offers something interesting) and I was expecting someone to bring up the first exhibition. I agree with you that seeing the same scene in a different angle, with different questions being asked and answered is fun. Actually, my favourite RPG of all time is
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where we're seeing the same scene play out but from a different perspective (so if you're playing a thief you will rob a local lord, if you're a praetor you will be lord's special agent that will advise him and protect him from thieves and if you're a mercenary you will fight for him and get rid of such filth directly).Forget render counts. The point I was making was that in PC the fun is condensed and GIL and TD don't waste time on pointless things, everything here is deliberate and I can't think of filler scenes here. I can however think of such in overrated Being a DIK (whole previous update was one huge filler, with characters I don't care even one bit, a total waste of resources if you ask me).
BTW, Being a DIK's sheer numbers while impressive are considerably smaller than Defending Lydia Collier's where a single guy produced 5335 renders in 189 days (or 188 days, less even since it too khim some time to upload it), i.e. over 28 renders per day. The thing is, this requires different amount of work than what GIL does and is highly dependent on the hardware you have (the better GPU and the more you have the faster you can deliver, I'm not sure it's the same using Honey Select).
Anyway, IMO what GIL does is something special, something that no other dev has managed to replicate, i.e. he can really make the scene alive. The facial expressions, gestures, pose, all of it is set up perfectly. Until this game I've been mostly ignoring Honey Select games, GIL has shown that this "engine" (or however should I call it) is capable of creating more vivid scenes than any DAZ game I know.
Yes and no, besides what you've mentioned there is Victoria's sub-plot (or Kat's who is doing shady deals with Abel or Rose's problem with Oliver or Veronica being screwed by Samson or Felicia not having her art school financed) but again, it's all connected and we learn about her from the very start of the game. Take another game (you know which one I'm talking about) and we have subplot after subplot, character #1 has some tragic past, character #2 does too, character #3 and ever other too. We also skip in time forwards and backwards. have some stupid plot-twists at the end of each update, etc. It becomes soap opera that way and everything is watered down. Personally I don't like it and prefer much more that clear focus that PC has.
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150% agree to that.
Sure, HoneySelect has its drawbacks, and other Games with different Engines may look better, but Gil3Ds mastership to infuse his characters and backgrounds with with Life is very rarely achieved by other creators. Often those other Protagonists feel like exactly what they are: just computer-generated Mannequins.
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PC is one of the few games on this site that has me clamoring to throw money at it whenever a new update comes out. Absolutely stoked for the release.
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I'll stop lurking to give my theory on it.
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Honestly, half the fun of this game comes from the fact that the characters are well written. Definitely curious to see how accurately I've judged the personality of Best Girl as the future updates roll in.
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you know, now that it's been mentioned i sure hope we get to go to one of those topless concerts eventually
fantastic analysis
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You can't fuck the daddy-issues out, it only makes them worse...