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Hi, I just downloaded the updated. My save files seem to have an issue- I keep getting the below error anytime I try to load a save. Any suggestions?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 275, in <module>
renpy.call_in_new_context(_restart[2])
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 275, in <module>
renpy.call_in_new_context(_restart[2])
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
- Dec 30, 2020
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Looking for 'wholesome' in porn in general is something that I find interesting, lol.
- Jun 25, 2018
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Yup, especially since we're playing Visual Novels.
BTW, it's also funny to me that people will waste time on asking some stupid questions on the forum instead of playing the game and checking it themselves. Since it is a VN, playing one even from start to finish doesn't take that long, it's not Planescape Torment or Age of Decadence or Fallout New Vegas. And if one would skim through to see what's it about he could do it in a couple of minutes. Considering it's one of the highest rated games here, it's a risk most should be willing to take.
And in the first place, if someone is playing VN (and erotic ones at that) he clearly has too much time on his hands.
- Oct 24, 2019
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Spot on. What's Sad is even though this is true many still get it wrong.
More or less true. They don't actually have to be a loved one however. NTR started in Shojo Manga far before it had an inpact on the adult world. All that really matters is that person A is suffering because they perceive that person B is being taken away from them by person C. So they can basically just have a crush on their best friend and that person enters a relationship, that can be NTR. Or a person can watch their favorite Manga get sold to another studio and they make the protagonist asexual after establishing a high sex drive. This again technically can be told into an NTR story.
Not even remotely accurate. They don't need to just flat out trample on your feelings, oftentimes they are having mixed feelings as well, sometimes they are trying to have the best from both worlds, and other times they are literally traumatized by what happened and completely and emotionally shut off. Perfering, acknowledging and even having relations aren't a requirement at all. They do help plot especially for adult literature but aren't required.
NTR doesn't require her to leave you at all, or ever enjoy being raped and she can easily despise her rapist. NTR don't even require her to cheat or be raped at all. All that's required is character A preserving that's what's happening.
NTR isn't a fetish, it isn't even a genre, it's simply a plot device that's used to evoke an emotional reaction. If an unintended emotional reaction is evoked, chances are it still isn't NTR but rather instead someone whom just can't handle Adult based themes and lives far from reality. If the intention is to cause a reaction and it doesn't, then it's likely shitty writing, not actually NTR or so mind numbingly stupid that it literally hurts to think about.
Most people think of NTR as a fetish, it isn't. It isn't a fetish. It's a story device that's actually so common that most people aren't even aware that's what they are witnessesing. Many movies, TV shows, video games and songs have been including NTR as a basic story plot device for years, such as the Simpsons, they have several NTR plot episodes. Such as the Episode, "The New Kid on the Block" in fact NTR wasn't ever really used as bluntly until the Bezerker Manga, this is a prime example of what i mean by, your rapist doesn't even need to be acknowledged. She flat out, forgets EVERYTHING and still ends up in love with Guts, BUT! It did have that emotional reaction that was intended, that was good NTR it worked because of how well everything was build up and how well it was executed.
Now back on Track, there is alot more to it but I'm not going into all of that here, so let's stick with what we know MC is character A, any of the girls are character B and any of the other guys are now character C.
Is any of the women taken away from the MC by his perception in a way that is ment to and does cause an emotional response by any of the make characters? Currently the answer is No. Nothing of the sort has happened. Because MC is well aware of what circumstances the others are in and therefore isn't surprised by anything going on, can this change? Maybe i guess NTR could be added later on but i have a hard time thinking that it will be the story isn't really geared in that direction.
That being said, if you can't stand the sight of seeing a female character with anyone other than the MC, even if she is never going to truly be a love interest, then this game isn't for you and i recommend either WMV or My New Family, were you are safe from any other guy getting laid anywhere what's so ever.
Chow.
I don't treat BSS sub genre (but i liked her first) as proper NTR setup. And in general, if relationship survives and B stays with A and prefers A keeps despising C then what the fuck is getting stolen? How is B getting taken away in that scenario? It's just cheating. "Audience feels bad so it's NTR" approach is why we have this problem here in the first place. But I am not gonna argue on this any further. I see your point still I disagree with your conclusion.
- Jul 31, 2017
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I honestly never thought the Carnations were love interests in the first place. Figured it was just Hana and Mina that were love interests. So never even crossed my mind that it "might" be NTR in any sense.
Even then, how would you expect a relationship with one of the Carnations to last, long term? After all this is over, do you really think you can just settle down with one of them? Even just being friends? The MC's face is going to remind them of this every time they see it, and all the things they went through. Long term, that just won't be healthy, and won't last. It would be a doomed relationship.
Thus why I never thought they were love interests to begin with. I could maybe see a friendship (no relationship) with Felicia lasting since she wants to be part of this, but Vero and Rosa? No way. The MC would just be a bad reminder of it all.
Even then, how would you expect a relationship with one of the Carnations to last, long term? After all this is over, do you really think you can just settle down with one of them? Even just being friends? The MC's face is going to remind them of this every time they see it, and all the things they went through. Long term, that just won't be healthy, and won't last. It would be a doomed relationship.
Thus why I never thought they were love interests to begin with. I could maybe see a friendship (no relationship) with Felicia lasting since she wants to be part of this, but Vero and Rosa? No way. The MC would just be a bad reminder of it all.
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Given that there are paths, I think it's all optional to some degree. I don't look at any of the five women as love interests. I certainly don't want to end up romantically entangled with any of them.
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In the example of Bezerk, her memories were stolen and her mind was stolen, a reaction gained through proper build up. If the romantic relationship between the two wasn't first established as well as the friendship with Griffith then the betrayal wouldn't have cut so deep. The overall point is more so that NTR actually has nothing to do with Sex. It's literally a plot device. It just so happens that this plot device happens to work very well with adult literature.
And again it does not actually apply to this game.
As far as if the carnations are love interests or not, i could see them all as love interests and if that is the path you ngo as MC, then it's up to you to ensure their victory and for you to protect them as much as possible. Personally I like all of the characters and have a path dedicated to all of them and some I'm attempting to do in groups.
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Just your average Saturday on F95.
I'm pretty, pretty sure that most of the players here want to escape reality for a few hours instead of being confronted with it. For a couple of years, movies were considered awesome, deep and influential, when the ending was a physical and mental breakdown for the main characters. Good thing, that trend ended.
Guess some people are only happy if they feel broken. Where are my "My Chemical Romance" cds, when i need them?
Next update will indeed be labeled Ch4Up1, so feel free to catch up if you want.
What are the highest and lowest toughness checks in the game? The first walkthrough indicates you need at least 20 toughness points to see some Chad Edwin action but that's about all I can deduce from that file. The initial toughness is 13 so I'm guessing those lowest toughness checks (if they exist) should be somewhere between 7 and 10.
- Dec 9, 2018
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It's mostly dialogue variations. The MC will use more abusive language at higher toughness, but there aren't many actual game-changing toughness checks. I think the highest checks currently are 24+ but haven't gone through everything to check (and haven't played the public release of this version).
Indulge me with my curiosity, my good sir before u became a game dev are u just a normal player of H-games? Or u already have some experience on game development? Last but not the least, what is your the inspiration of this? Thanks some just curious on how the game devs thinks when creating this kind of + do u like memes on games or eastereggs?
It's ok if don't answer some stuff if u think its too personal or uncomfortable to answer.
Yeah, I just liked porn games. From the old flash games on Newgrounds, to all those crappy RPGM games in the mid 00s, and throw in a decade of reading eroge and I just always wanted to make one. I had no other previous experience to speak of, besides knowing what I liked and what I believed worked in VNs. Well, I did spend a couple years making comics using HS, but I don't do the visual side of things for this project.
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.That is correct, but there are a few situations where the varying toughness level have more influence on Edwins story. AFAIK if your thoughness is 30+, then many of the normal and nice choices are disabled, because you are on the fast lane to become like your "mentor" Kath. This has influence on more than one person´s relationship points with you.
18+ Toughness in another point, because this is where you have most options available. You are considered "mischievious" by the game, possible to be going into both directions. But be careful, you can quickly tumble into one direction or the other, small changes can tip the scale for you.
Below 10 points most "Chad" or "Asshole" choices are disabled, which also has influence on how your Edwin´s story goes on. If you have this low toughness, you should be really on the road to help the Carnations and Hana with the Club.
But generally there are trends what influences your toughness score. e.g. If you are playing a nice, helpful Edwin, your toughness score should not rise all that high, mischievious the most.