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is on it, so it should come rather soon.- Thread starter GIL3D
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is on it, so it should come rather soon.
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It's funny how people say shit like "my personal definition". Like the site (and every other before it) doesn't have a clearly established definition already.
"Hey, I know this term has a clear definition, but I don't like it so I will make my own and bitch about it"
It's like these people can't even grasp wtf "definition" means. Maybe they have their personal one for that too
"Hey, I know this term has a clear definition, but I don't like it so I will make my own and bitch about it"
It's like these people can't even grasp wtf "definition" means. Maybe they have their personal one for that too
Some/many people find sexual scenes between an LI and some male other than the MC boring and or off putting, so they lump any of those into NTR. While I'm disinterested in such scenes, I fully recognize that many of them are NOT NTR pretty much by any definition. On that basis I kind of like the notion of an OCTRA tag, the presence or lack there of would clarify things for all concerned. Not that I think there is the remotest chance in hell of us getting such a tag.
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After playing the public release i am finally able to catch up and i am currently screening through 25+ thread pages since the leak of the beta-version a week ago. So bear with me if i am answering to half-necroed issues which are already settled.
Regarding Spamwises frustration about not meeting the required affection score to hug Veronica:
I ended update 3.3 in what i felt was a not very pro-veronica save with 13 affection and 13 horniness. I even opted for the infamous choice which gives her whopping -4 to her affection and at least one other choice which gave -2 affection. So that is that.
However if we assume a blind playthrough there are indeed a lot of choices (i counted 9 of them in the 3.2 walkthrough) where you can loose -1 affection instead of gaining any, some of them rather counterintuitive because Veronica is a complicated woman and these can of course add up. While it is relatively easy to gain affection with Mina and lets say Hana by just not being a prick, one need to be much smarter with Vero, because lip service, giving random compliments or being handsy without the needed trust/affection will backfire on her.
So while i am generally onboard with the 22 affection threshold for the ensuing friendship after the hug (? not quite sure about that, because i obviously missed it), it is imho worth considering to lower the threshold for the actual hug to something like 16 or 18 and reward it with like +2 affection, checking the total afterwards and so lowering the effective score for her friendship to 20.
After reading some other comments, i feel like the majority of those about this issue are fine with the threshold as it is.
Also i want to thank and congratulate both GIL3D and TD1900 on completing another fine piece of work in their exploration of this tale and its characters!
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What a great synopsis for a great game. Hats off for a concise, well-founded and insightful analysis of the characters presented in this update. To be honest i am jealous not being able to articulate my thoughts about them on your level. Perhaps i can try to add some of my views later, after i read more of the remaining thread.
Thanks for sharing this "essay"!
its for sure an Ilusion game. This is one of the few games taht use Ilusion models, that i realy like
Hey, thanks for the mod! Just wanted to let you know, your mod does not show the new/bug-fixed content that comes with the Public Release. I downloaded the mod from the attachment file in this post, and installed it correctly, but the content is the same as it was for the leaked version. Without the mod, I'm able to see the Kathleen ending for the update, and the bug-fixes and corrections.
in this new update, any new sex scene mc with all girls except rosaline? i meant vaginal/anal sex scene
or just new bdsm with veron or kath?
i meant vaginal/anal sex scene or just new bdsm with veron or kath?
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And my posts got edited in the past for spamming by excessive use of BB codeor in short for being too colorful???
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Damn Had to rewrite the whole thing to the new version but hopefully has cleared up all the bugs(Tested,Worked for me)
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Valeriyo
I would like to address this part of your review:
As for LI (not sure why you've emphasized "singular" when we can have multiple), depending on who it is we can keep them from taking part in debauchery, although considering the brothel setting it should be obvious what you can expect. But yeah, I find it hilarious that people here will read the description (where it's explicitly stated that it's a brothel setting, full of debauchery and "cruel erotic games") and then ask "does it have NTR?" (by which they don't mean what they think it means, instead they're asking if this being a brothel game all girls will be exclusive to us)...
Maybe devs should include a FAQ in the OP (with a link to this post and this one), albeit seeing comprehension skills of some it wouldn't help that much.
I would like to address this part of your review:
The word "wholesome" seems to be overused and looking for scenes like these in a game set in a brothel seems silly to me (although the game does have scenes that could be described as such, even in the newest update). And while there is no harem here, we can have sex with most characters (female of course) that we encounter and pursue more than one character romantically (more than two even, not sure how far it can go but for now it's true).Valeriyo's review said:
As for LI (not sure why you've emphasized "singular" when we can have multiple), depending on who it is we can keep them from taking part in debauchery, although considering the brothel setting it should be obvious what you can expect. But yeah, I find it hilarious that people here will read the description (where it's explicitly stated that it's a brothel setting, full of debauchery and "cruel erotic games") and then ask "does it have NTR?" (by which they don't mean what they think it means, instead they're asking if this being a brothel game all girls will be exclusive to us)...
Maybe devs should include a FAQ in the OP (with a link to this post and this one), albeit seeing comprehension skills of some it wouldn't help that much.
Hi, I just downloaded the updated. My save files seem to have an issue- I keep getting the below error anytime I try to load a save. Any suggestions?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 275, in <module>
renpy.call_in_new_context(_restart[2])
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 273, in script
python:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 275, in <module>
renpy.call_in_new_context(_restart[2])
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
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Looking for 'wholesome' in porn in general is something that I find interesting, lol.
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Yup, especially since we're playing Visual Novels.
BTW, it's also funny to me that people will waste time on asking some stupid questions on the forum instead of playing the game and checking it themselves. Since it is a VN, playing one even from start to finish doesn't take that long, it's not Planescape Torment or Age of Decadence or Fallout New Vegas. And if one would skim through to see what's it about he could do it in a couple of minutes. Considering it's one of the highest rated games here, it's a risk most should be willing to take.
And in the first place, if someone is playing VN (and erotic ones at that) he clearly has too much time on his hands.
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Spot on. What's Sad is even though this is true many still get it wrong.
More or less true. They don't actually have to be a loved one however. NTR started in Shojo Manga far before it had an inpact on the adult world. All that really matters is that person A is suffering because they perceive that person B is being taken away from them by person C. So they can basically just have a crush on their best friend and that person enters a relationship, that can be NTR. Or a person can watch their favorite Manga get sold to another studio and they make the protagonist asexual after establishing a high sex drive. This again technically can be told into an NTR story.
Not even remotely accurate. They don't need to just flat out trample on your feelings, oftentimes they are having mixed feelings as well, sometimes they are trying to have the best from both worlds, and other times they are literally traumatized by what happened and completely and emotionally shut off. Perfering, acknowledging and even having relations aren't a requirement at all. They do help plot especially for adult literature but aren't required.
NTR doesn't require her to leave you at all, or ever enjoy being raped and she can easily despise her rapist. NTR don't even require her to cheat or be raped at all. All that's required is character A preserving that's what's happening.
NTR isn't a fetish, it isn't even a genre, it's simply a plot device that's used to evoke an emotional reaction. If an unintended emotional reaction is evoked, chances are it still isn't NTR but rather instead someone whom just can't handle Adult based themes and lives far from reality. If the intention is to cause a reaction and it doesn't, then it's likely shitty writing, not actually NTR or so mind numbingly stupid that it literally hurts to think about.
Most people think of NTR as a fetish, it isn't. It isn't a fetish. It's a story device that's actually so common that most people aren't even aware that's what they are witnessesing. Many movies, TV shows, video games and songs have been including NTR as a basic story plot device for years, such as the Simpsons, they have several NTR plot episodes. Such as the Episode, "The New Kid on the Block" in fact NTR wasn't ever really used as bluntly until the Bezerker Manga, this is a prime example of what i mean by, your rapist doesn't even need to be acknowledged. She flat out, forgets EVERYTHING and still ends up in love with Guts, BUT! It did have that emotional reaction that was intended, that was good NTR it worked because of how well everything was build up and how well it was executed.
Now back on Track, there is alot more to it but I'm not going into all of that here, so let's stick with what we know MC is character A, any of the girls are character B and any of the other guys are now character C.
Is any of the women taken away from the MC by his perception in a way that is ment to and does cause an emotional response by any of the make characters? Currently the answer is No. Nothing of the sort has happened. Because MC is well aware of what circumstances the others are in and therefore isn't surprised by anything going on, can this change? Maybe i guess NTR could be added later on but i have a hard time thinking that it will be the story isn't really geared in that direction.
That being said, if you can't stand the sight of seeing a female character with anyone other than the MC, even if she is never going to truly be a love interest, then this game isn't for you and i recommend either WMV or My New Family, were you are safe from any other guy getting laid anywhere what's so ever.
Chow.