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Then you are either not on the Feli path or you chose a "wrong" decision during the photoshot. Because if you are on good terms with Felicia, you can have a roll in the hay with her after the shot in the office.
- Nov 22, 2020
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I started to play it, and I have some questions: Was MC's mom a porn actress ehen he was a kid? And if yes, will be there flashbacks from that time? And is there any sexual content between MC and his friend's girlfriend (Mina, I guess)? So far, she is my favorite one...
- Nov 22, 2020
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About his mom, I'm not sure if he knows she was a porn actress or he thinks about it but she wasn't....
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Ooohh, so in the begining, was it her video??? Damn! I thought it was a random girl.He watches her videos
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Theory ahead, possibly a spoiler? Proceed at your own risk.
So I'm going to give my Theory about some of this. You see, even back in the 80s porn actresses ever never really payed that well and even today most don't make a ton of money especially if they are working with a studio. It's one of the main reasons there is a war against only fans. The people with money aren't actually interested in sharing the weath. So how this relates to the Story is, as far as we know currently, MC'S mother was only ever in 1 porno video ever. Now we know that killian has only ever missed one of the carnation events. I theorize that MC'S mother didn't make a porno. Especially with the way Chuck was talking to Kathleen. My thoughts are she found out about. The carnation events at some point through her connections to Chucks family through her son's friendship with Killian. What I believe happened is that after her husband's death she competed for the money to take care of her son and won. Killian respects her alot so either he refused to witness the events with Victoria or he was barred from Watching by Chuck. This would explain why Cathleen is so obsessed with the MCs relationship with his mother and why she is so hell bent on pushing him to recreate those events with Rose, it also explains why Chuck decided to finally warn her not to go to far. I believe that her one porn video was a challenge simular to Rose's challenge, a way to embaress her in the future. I'm willing to bet that Cathleen is also partly responsible for the MC finding out about the video to begin with. Simply put. She's a monster of a woman.
- Nov 22, 2020
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Hmmm, got it. Well, I'm not a fan about that kind of content, but I guess I'll give this one try. Thank you!
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Edwyn flashbacks to a different video of Victoria's during Rose's latest exhibition so she definetely was in more than one porn. I do believe she has something to do with the club though, or at the very least that she knows more than she lets on. Her 'what did you get yourself into' to Edwyn at the end of last update certainly seems to point there.
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I'd say MC is Dexter, while Kathleen is the villain of the week who ends up in the bodybag
They both read like sociopaths, with their distinct lack of empathy and social charmeleon ways, and i'd argue that read was all but confirmed in their most recent face-to-face, but i'd also say whereas Edwyn does have something of a moral compass and tries to actively fit in with people, Kat simply doesn't and really only keeps up the facade because she benefits from it. Again, Dexter v some random psycho.
Having said that he obviously does have the potential to turn out as bad as her, but it's up to the player really and i suspect shit gonna just way be evil for me to ever go down that road
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Eh, they both seem to posses high levels of cognitive empathy.
Which is actually a sociopathic trait, as sociopath are generally very good at reading emotions, they just don't respond to them like normal people.
The MC does seem to have at least some level of affective empathy, depending on player choices, so I wouldn't call him a sociopath.
When did that hugging Mina
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It's the same with taking Hana to the bed. Since I always chose that on my blind playthrough, I did not know staying in the sofa resulted in that dream.
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I did notice this as well. I played through the game for the first time a few weeks before this update came out and it did feel like my MC was trending more towards embracing the club. I took all the dominant/"tough" options and while he still expressed reservations, it did really feel like he was starting to sink into the lifestyle. Then in the latest update the tone did seem to shift back a bit towards
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First, isn't there more than one flashback scene of Victoria? Maybe my memory is playing tricks (need to replay) but i think she did more than one hardcore sex video during her time as "pornstar" ( quotation marks because she was very likely being explored, like you mentioned about the sex work industry).
Second, Ian is the same age as Edwin (21 years old) and he only started working at the Carnation Club when he turned 18 and received a invitation from Chuck. This is only three years prior to the events of the game and we know from Edwin himself that his mother worked with porn when he was a child. So there is not enough time for Ian to have met Victoria when she was working with sex.
Third, while i do believe Victoria encountered Chuck when doing sex work i don't think her distaste for him would be so mild if she had participated in one of the carnation events. I bet he likely transited through the more darker and exploiter sides of the sex industry world before becoming one of the owners of the Carnation Club and that is how they both met.
Fourth, Katheleen is a sadist (maybe even a sociopath). The idea that the son of a lone mom who used to do porn videos to raise her kid is having to make a sex video with another woman who is also a lone mother in a similar situation is likely her idea of a Christmas present to herself.
Knowing her Chuck was likely making sure she keep her more devilish side in check.
Also didn't Kathleen pretty much implied the video wouldn't see daylight? Considering the secrecy around the club it would be pretty risky to let a video made inside of it to hit the internet.
I don't think Edwin being sympathetic toward the club's prostitutes is inconsistent with his characterization so far, but I wrote it, so I suppose I wouldn't.
He has always been portrayed as having qualms with the exploitative nature of the club from a logical/mental standpoint, but on a sensual level he becomes a hypocrite. The social mores ingrained in him are at odds with what he innately finds gratifying. Walking around, he'll think what most people would think, but he'll find having a flogger in his hand stimulating. There's supposed to be some push and pull in that regard, with some overcompensating, but it might not come across like that. If it doesn't, then it's either a failure of my writing or a mismatch of the perspectives we're bringing to the table.To answer your question though, Edwin can't straddle the line forever. Eventually he'll have his critical moment and he'll need to start progressing toward the game's two main end states: getting his mentality in order and staying at the club or wanting to leave and dealing with any complications related to that.