- Dec 29, 2017
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With the preface of my former posts, i have to say well done, TD1900, mission accomplished. You achieved to make a side character with a probably distinctive narrative role so likeable, that we start to care for her.I starting to get the feeling we are talking past each other here, that or I'm just really bad at making my thoughts clear and/or understanding yours. I would almost second everything you wrote here.
It's not that i want Lucy to have some sort of "magic Plot Armor" so she is saved from all/most of the abuse. I only try to advocate that we both can and should get something to enjoy with her Character. Right now she only caters to the Fantasy of Abusing/Breaking an innocent Women.
Although i as well have a "Dark Spot" in my mind that enjoys the Fantasy of Rape and Abuse from Time to Time, i need at least to feel indifferent towards the Character subjected to it. Or, like with Kathleen, think of the Character as someone who deserves what is comming to him/her.
I would love to reduce Kathleen to a slobbering broken mess for her Actions and wouldn't feel bad about it for only a second.
As for Lucy i don't have such excuse so i can't help myself other than feeling hurt when i have to see her suffering.
Until ename144 told me about the Scene where MC seems to at least trying to console her, i got the Picture that he was hardcoded to being indifferent towards her. Now i have at least a glimpse of hope that in the future, if she comes back and hopefully becomes a more Important/fleshed out Character, the MC will have more options with her, like with the other Women.
So my whole point with Lucy was from the beginning not that she is not meant to being abused at all, but that she is (right now) handled different from the other, more important feeling Characters. She feels badly balanced right now, as i said kinda halfassed, as if there was to much work put into her Model to not use it again, but also she was/is not seen as worth enough to invest more time/thought into her to make her a real, fleshed out side Character. This may change in the future, and i hope, if she becomes the prominent Proxy for the House Girls MC get's more options with her.
vakkyr i understand and respect your position, and i am all in to enhance our agency in determining the fate of the characters.
However, i am also all in for letting TD1900 tell their story, since they did a stellar job sofar, and if they decide to keep Lucy a mere side character for illustration purposes only, i am fine with it.
That would be indeed preferable if it's done right. Again, i am very fond of giving agency to the players.I really wish for all the more important Characters to have at least an "Good" Arc for me, and an "Evil" Arc for you.
But shoehorning a 'Happy Ending' into the story just for the sake of it, would be detrimental in my opinion.
What if the author intented to write a tragedy?
Romeo and Juliet is what it is because they both die, if they would overcome their families enmity or would elope together to live happily ever after it would be a completely different story, and quite probably not considered as one of the greatest romantic plays of all time.
For now i trust TD1900 enough to pull it off, one way or the other. Don't loose hope, vakkyr!
P.S. i want to elaborate a bit more on the "(... ) 'Evil' Arc for you", but that's for another post.
P.P.S. also
I would love to reduce Kathleen to a slobbering broken mess for her Actions and wouldn't feel bad about it for only a second.