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I'm not sure if this is just on my part but I think the "Full commit" choice for Rosalind is bugged cuz in the scene after when she texted me it overlapped with Hana's for the date and then it jumped straight to the date skipping the whole second-week exhibition and everything else in between. I deleted my mods and tried again and it did the same and it still skips. The "decompress by yourself" and "kill some time" choices worked as intended and went to the exhibition
 
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Turret

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Actually, mina had cheating on her boyfriend as no 1 in the bucket list..... And you helped her cheat on ian.... I don't think, she will have gangbang, ntr, bukake Or something
Similar... If she has something like that, I am restarting the game and avoiding her like plague
I mentioned it in one of my earlier posts that Hana and Mina shape up to be inversions of each other when it comes to sexual stuff. Take Hana, she was never a prude, is quite open for sex and sexual activities (her current draught is the result of other interference), has show off tendencies (her typical clothes, plays concerts topless now and then) and is chill and cool with a lot on the sex front as long as it is consensual. But considering her history it is not surprising that she is in favour of a "normal" committed relationship when it all becomes serious. While some "fun" is still optional if discussed as fuckbuddies, Hana is more for the fully committed pairing.
That is very clear now.
Mina on the other hand is far less outwardly sexual than Hana ever was, but unlike her Mina has an extensive sexual bucket list and it becomes clear during the game that she is all for testing out most of this list. Mina has a lot of a "closet perv". This is one reason (not the olny one) why I from early on was for helping Ian and Mina staying together.
 

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Not gonna hope so much tho with my position, but I think the owners tiers have more chance to make things happen, or even something like made to order content that I usually found in some finished game
Abandon hope all ye who enters here.

The truth is, I simply find incest uninteresting. I have zero interest in portraying it. I find whatever fucked up thing is going on in Edwin's head as he watches the porn videos and moralizes to himself more fun.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn, but I also believe Edwin pining for his mom would cheapen their dynamic and undercut the sentiment/theme I want to portray.

Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
 

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So Victoria will doing porn again
Abandon hope all ye who enters here.

The truth is, I simply find incest uninteresting. I have zero interest in portraying it. I find whatever fucked up thing is going on in Edwin's head as he watches the porn videos and moralizes to himself more fun.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn, but I also believe Edwin pining for his mom would cheapen their dynamic and undercut the sentiment/theme I want to portray.

Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
So Victoria will be doing porn job again
 

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Abandon hope all ye who enters here.

The truth is, I simply find incest uninteresting. I have zero interest in portraying it. I find whatever fucked up thing is going on in Edwin's head as he watches the porn videos and moralizes to himself more fun.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn, but I also believe Edwin pining for his mom would cheapen their dynamic and undercut the sentiment/theme I want to portray.

Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
Also, is it possible to still be Kind Edwin with a few tough points?
 

Turret

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Also, is it possible to still be Kind Edwin with a few tough points?
Currently, the toughness points do not play the role they are intended for (rarely are choices influenced by them, but some are) and maybe they will not at all, this is undecided at the moment. But you can take your toughness points as a kind of marker. Up to a dozen points you are a really nice, helpful guy. Up to about 20 you are , as TD once said, mischievious. You are still a nice, helpful guy, but you can take harsh choices if you think them justified. Which is a slippery slope, so look out for yourself. Around 30 points you are well on your way towards an all-around asshole. You can see that in the texts, which change more or less subtle depending on your toughness points.
 

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Currently, the toughness points do not play the role they are intended for (rarely are choices influenced by them, but some are) and maybe they will not at all, this is undecided at the moment. But you can take your toughness points as a kind of marker. Up to a dozen points you are a really nice, helpful guy. Up to about 20 you are , as TD once said, mischievious. You are still a nice, helpful guy, but you can take harsh choices if you think them justified. Which is a slippery slope, so look out for yourself. Around 30 points you are well on your way towards an all-around asshole. You can see that in the texts, which change more or less subtle depending on your toughness points.
Okay thank u
 
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Abandon hope all ye who enters here.

The truth is, I simply find incest uninteresting. I have zero interest in portraying it. I find whatever fucked up thing is going on in Edwin's head as he watches the porn videos and moralizes to himself more fun.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn, but I also believe Edwin pining for his mom would cheapen their dynamic and undercut the sentiment/theme I want to portray.

Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
Don't get me wrong, I respect your decision whether there will be incest kink or not, or even wilder tag that may give the game trouble from kinkshamer like gay, futa, trap, scat or even more wilder tag
From your reason I would call it kink avoidance and I can respect that more than kinkshaming
I got latest hana patch just recently so I'm pretty much well fed up to the point that the missing opportunity don't really bother me like at all as if I dire of incest kink so much there are plenty other games I played that specifically walk on that path cause the main story is all about it
And if victoria model what piqued that previous poster interest he surely can find alternative game where that model fk-able

It should be illegal to introduce female family characters and have no incest in a porn game
Haha I can relate to this. Everytime any new good looking woman introduced in story most players would ask "can I fk her?when?how?" unless that woman made ugly, don't even have name or being a total clown I can tell they are just additions.
In this case dev made clear that victoria only act as plot catalyst that gives mc the reason of sympathetic feeling towards these carnations or hana mom, it what makes mc can relate to hana so to me it's a win.
 

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Abandon hope all ye who enters here.

The truth is, I simply find incest uninteresting. I have zero interest in portraying it. I find whatever fucked up thing is going on in Edwin's head as he watches the porn videos and moralizes to himself more fun.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn, but I also believe Edwin pining for his mom would cheapen their dynamic and undercut the sentiment/theme I want to portray.

Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
A dev with a vision. Good!

I was never worried about where the game is going in terms of that aspect, but having an outright clarification is great too.
Keep doing what you're doing because clearly it's working.
Just suck that you can't put this on steam, that'd be a source of extra income for you two.
 

TD1900

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A dev with a vision. Good!

I was never worried about where the game is going in terms of that aspect, but having an outright clarification is great too.
Keep doing what you're doing because clearly it's working.
Just suck that you can't put this on steam, that'd be a source of extra income for you two.
It's been previously clarified a few times, but as with everything in a forum setting, it bears repeating.

And thanks, but we knew when we opted to use HS that we'd be limiting ourselves. I never even expected to grow even a quarter this big to be honest, so I'm very grateful with the money we do receive.
 

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Why was MC still nude while apparently watching his mother's porn movie from beginning to end?
Did he just forget to put his clothes back on in shock, or ...?
Perhaps it's also the right time to neutralize an opinion which surfaces from time to time, and was already several times denied by the Dev: that Edwin watches the videos of Victoria for his sexual gratification. Especially the very first scene is quite (purposefully) ambigous in this regard, with him sitting in the dark, half-naked. It's is not idiotic to assume he is jerking off, at a first glance, but i'd like to counter this with material from the scene itself, to show it's worthwhile to take a second look at nearly every scene.
left hand
right hand

As we can see both hands are unused on the chairs armrests. He is also able to answer the door almost immediatley, there is no "Just a second, please." Yet, this is not 100%, since we don't see both hands at the same time. But we have another example of the setup of his wanking session and what is his go for:
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right hand worker, obviously. Prefers to have toilet roll in comfortable reach on the left side and likes to watch slightly fantasy themed lesbian porn, which seem to be as far away as possible from his Mothers porn settings, both in bodytypes of the actresses and the theme, which is not a reality type. While not ultimatively conclusive, it suggests that the introduction scene was more likely not a wanking session. I can't completely rule out, that there may be a level of excitement and arousal on a very basic and animalistic level, like anyone can encounter when they are exposed to sexual images, but i don't think he ever wanted or needed to act out on this, quite the opposite.
Probably he gets more annoyed by it than he already was.
 

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Considering it's just a porn game, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but when you spend countless hours working on something, you tend to take.it seriously. :p
I mean, "Just a porn game" is not quite fair (kind of retarded of me to say that to the Dev thought).
I've been gaming for nearly three decades now and any game can be amazing if the talent behind it is passionate about it.
Actually reading everything and listening to the music (kind of like in "Being a DIK") is engaging enough to make this a good story with sexual elements.
If the only focus is the sex it usually (for me) is very un-interesting.

So cheers man, you guys are doing very high quality work imho.
 
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It's been previously clarified a few times, but as with everything in a forum setting, it bears repeating.

And thanks, but we knew when we opted to use HS that we'd be limiting ourselves. I never even expected to grow even a quarter this big to be honest, so I'm very grateful with the money we do receive.
Yeah, I just started playing this a few days ago, honestly I'm hooked. I also loved the breaching choices that makes this game very replayable. Like I was shocked in during the club scene that it have two breaching paths.

Playthough 1: I just hangout with Felicia and had sex with her in the bathroom.

Playthough 2: I just chilled with Ian/Mina and then the game at Ian house as well was great.

There many breaching I loved but don't spoiler for some who are new here.

Question? Will the game be finished around the last of the month or after? I'm just curious sometimes I forget all this is happening in a month because the game feels long and I love it.
 
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TD1900

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Another thing, I'm kind of tired of people calling games like these porn games but it's acceptable to have shows like American Gigolo showing A Female pimp raising a Child into Prostitution, Game of Thrones/HOTD having incest being okay but will judge people on here for loving it.
Hold my beer, I'm about to sound like a pretentious ponce with this.

Personally, I hold the designation of "porn" in high esteem. We're so oversaturated with it nowadays that it's commonplace, but there's a long and interesting history of filmmakers transgressing and pushing boundaries, going against societal convention, to create titillating images that people derided as porn. A movie like In the Realm of the Senses was regarded as porn. It's gratuitous. It's inflammatory, disturbing, and provoking. It has value. Hell, even just two amateurs fucking on camera to make an easy buck, even if they're not intending to, runs contrary to the ways in which various institutions that be have tried to control human beings at large.

... and at the end of the day, my primary goal is to create something I find sexually stimulating. :p So yeah, I kinda like the word porn.

Plus, having the "we're just a porn game" excuse is a pretty good tool when you want to conveniently deflect criticism. :KEK:
 

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Hold my beer, I'm about to sound like a pretentious ponce with this.

Personally, I hold the designation of "porn" in high esteem. We're so oversaturated with it nowadays that it's commonplace, but there's a long and interesting history of filmmakers transgressing and pushing boundaries, going against societal convention, to create titillating images that people derided as porn. A movie like In the Realm of the Senses was regarded as porn. It's gratuitous. It's inflammatory, disturbing, and provoking. It has value. Hell, even just two amateurs fucking on camera to make an easy buck, even if they're not intending to, runs contrary to the ways in which various institutions that be have tried to control human beings at large.

... and at the end of the day, my primary goal is to create something I find sexually stimulating. :p So yeah, I kinda like the word porn.

Plus, having the "we're just a porn game" excuse is a pretty good tool when you want to conveniently deflect criticism. :KEK:
nerd.
 
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