I'm sure she can take whatever punishment you throw at her, but at what cost? Will she hate me when it's all over?
Just be truthfull with her in both Edwin's words and actions, no bs.
The hug scene really hits hard, very emotional. Even though I am not considering her path, that scene really felt good.Just to truthfull with her in both Edwin's words and actions, no bs.
And also don't be afraid to lewd on her or let her take charge when the situation arrives, she enjoys it most of the time.
Doing that i had all the friendship points necessary to give the hug Veronica needed after that scene.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree here.
This is fair enough - but again, what you are referring to is an internal state within the MC and it isn't a conscious choice. As you said, the scene would have worked well had that one image been gated behind a toughness score (I've never had a problem with it but then again, I've never tried to play a character that would have a problem with it). But I think you're missing my main point.
I think for Mina part of it is the fact that she is somewhat in control here for the first time. There really isn't even that much foreplay. You have like 2 scenes with one actually being missable. And of course there is also the simple fact that this is a game and you want to build-up to something and not give everything to the player right away.
That's fair. I hate the whole stairway to heaven approach that some VNs take as well. If the only thing you can do to keep players around is to drip feed hj -> bj -> sex, then I think you should reconsider how you look at your scenario. People fuck, that's like the default.
Think missing a bit of the point here clearly everyone can see Mina wanted to jump the MC's bones after the scene at the Club, however this is about the MC being reluctant to go down the rabbit hole of fucking his Best friend's girl.
Considering Mina's mother's multiple marriages affecting her perception of men -after we watch her repeatedly get manipulated by Ian trying to be some perverted shell of an alpha male- I think of Mina as someone holding back greatly because of what she perceives others expect of her. She has a list of fantasies that she's been scared shitless to do more with other than simply consider acting on them. I get the impression that she knows she'd be good at embodying the streets/sheets metaphor but she doesn't quite know how to be that for someone correctly. Like she worries she'll give up her lewdest behavior to someone and they'll treat it as a going away present and leave her... but if she tells someone what she really feels, they'll stop respecting her as a lady. She feels she can't be both. She's scared of turning on the faucet because she doesn't know how to turn the handle between lady and woman to a manageable temperature that won't get so hot or cold as to make Edwin jump out of the shower (heh).
Ahah, this game surely provoke people to think and analize a lot, *walls of text" time
I still got the hug despite not going all out on her. Good scene and it really bummed me out that Veronica tries to walk it back on you after the fact.Doing that i had all the friendship points necessary to give the hug Veronica needed after that scene.
I played twice but i just realzied that i don't really understand the basic setting here .....could you enlighten me ??? Does the club client allowed to fuck our "carnation girls" , or thare are some other restristions?It's very very small rant from me, and only cause my expectations are super high for PC, and I want it to be perfect to almost unhealthy degree, comparing to other games totally no reason to argue tbh)
And tbh Mina is friendzoned in the very end on "my canon" playthrough, thanks again for that scene, it give Me more satisfaction then all sex scenes together
And I like Mina as character with interesting personality and interactions but no warm feelings towards her, I'd rather go some dark route with her (and I'm often reluctant to "go dark" even with Evil bitches, that harm MC directly)
Just remember some Inc game (NMM) situation with sis...roommate, she gives MC second blowjob after many many chapters of Teasing but rejects a simple kiss cause it's too much
I hate Felicia. I love hating Felicia. I also can't get enough of her. I love that Felicia, as a fictional character, provokes these deeply contradictory feelings in me. That scene with her was absolutely masterful, imho. The choices being available to the player for that scene mirrored well the actual relationship dynamics between Felicia and Edwin in a palpable extra-narrative sense and elevated what would still be a hot and sexual scene to a sensual and resonating scene, one I still often think back on. That being said, I'm not saying every scene needs such level of interactivity and choice. You had mentioned that 'balance is key', and I would humbly support your view on that. So far you and GIL seem to best understand how to craft meaningful and provocative story beats and scenes. In short, I think you two know what you're doing and also second-guessing oneself is natural and common.
Seems most in this thread agree.Ehhhhh, I think you're missing something vital in that dynamic. Mina had been dating Ian for a long while, while sexually Edwin is new. She had most likely grown comfortable with Ian during that time. I have noticed, particularly if one person is looking for more than just a hookup/netflix and chill( or whatever kids call it these days), it isn't terribly uncommon to just engage in a little foreplay. Whether this is from an idea of someone "wanting to take things slowly" or from an idea of "leave them wanting more," who can say? Hell, sometimes even when reconnecting with an old lover, you enjoy the ride and stretch it out. Teasing someone is fun. Feeling desired is also fun. There are a lot of reasons you won't immediately knock boots with someone, no matter your sexual experience. So I at least found the scene made sense in that regard. Maybe I'm the only one. Maybe not.
Your logic is sound and reasonable , apart from wheather its the dev's intention to leave us hangingI hate Felicia. I love hating Felicia. I also can't get enough of her. I love that Felicia, as a fictional character, provokes these deeply contradictory feelings in me. That scene with her was absolutely masterful, imho. The choices being available to the player for that scene mirrored well the actual relationship dynamics between Felicia and Edwin in a palpable extra-narrative sense and elevated what would still be a hot and sexual scene to a sensual and resonating scene, one I still often think back on. That being said, I'm not saying every scene needs such level of interactivity and choice. You had mentioned that 'balance is key', and I would humbly support your view on that. So far you and GIL seem to best understand how to craft meaningful and provocative story beats and scenes. In short, I think you two know what you're doing and also second-guessing oneself is natural and common.
Ehhhhh, I think you're missing something vital in that dynamic. Mina had been dating Ian for a long while, while sexually Edwin is new. She had most likely grown comfortable with Ian during that time. I have noticed, particularly if one person is looking for more than just a hookup/netflix and chill( or whatever kids call it these days), it isn't terribly uncommon to just engage in a little foreplay. Whether this is from an idea of someone "wanting to take things slowly" or from an idea of "leave them wanting more," who can say? Hell, sometimes even when reconnecting with an old lover, you enjoy the ride and stretch it out. Teasing someone is fun. Feeling desired is also fun. There are a lot of reasons you won't immediately knock boots with someone, no matter your sexual experience. So I at least found the scene made sense in that regard. Maybe I'm the only one. Maybe not.
