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To me, the mc's mom getting some is like the least thing I'm interested in. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing more of his stashed videos of her though. But truthfully I'm interested mainly in the mc and the club.
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Or, maybe we empathise with a woman who has sacrificed a lot and we don't want to see her grow old and alone. I don't think anyone wants her to become the next Carnation. But I have no issue with her getting into a relationship with someone. And yes we haven't met a suitable candidate yet so I doubt we will see her get a romantic partner, I think she is doomed to be nothing more than an anchor for the MC.
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BTW someone said before that Victoria was lusting after Ian. Where is that shown? Or did I just miss it? Because he is an ass and like Spf said before "he doesn't deserve anyone's pussy." I almost want to take Mina from him but sadly she ain't anywhere near the top of my list. Besides, does he even care? He seemed to encourage the MC kissing her so what's up with that?
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That post was meant as a dig towards the posters who were saying mrfriendly was selfish and jealous. I probably shouldn't have written it, I just don't like it when people tell others they are in the wrong because of how they feel.
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Yes Ian is an ass who has no respect for women, except for Victoria whom he always treats with the greatest respect. He will happily watch boring art films with her instead of going out and screwing around. His relationship with her is different to other women.
He is an attractive rich playboy and women throw themselves at him. It is highly possible that Victoria is physically attracted to him but will never actually act on it. Again this is just hypothesis as I doubt these themes will be explored because Victoria's role in the story will probably be very limited.
I didn't play through the whole thing yet, but Killian is a great character. One of my closest friends is quite similar, except the rich part. They are not invested in women like most people. He is definitely a cynical playboy and insensitive towards women, but most girls that go for these type of dudes know what's up (Mina is an unfortunate case). He seems like a damn good friend to MC. If you try to snatch Mina from him, that would make you the asshole in my books. Bros before hoes!
Absolutely no to hooking him up with mom though lol. That would be disastrous. It seems like he just views her as a mother figure which is nice.
Absolutely no to hooking him up with mom though lol. That would be disastrous. It seems like he just views her as a mother figure which is nice.
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If Mom is not a love interest, It's okay if she found any other man, but I don't want to see her "sexual renders" with other men. You can just say "Mom found one, relationship is going fine, double dates etc" but please no sexual scenes of mom with other men on game viewed by the players. They has to happen off screen with no details given. That should be fine to all the players who hate NTR/sharing/swinging/voyeur or anything similar in that zone.
Not commenting on Victoria (the mother) with this statement, but the game as a whole as it pertains to the sex club aspect:
If you have zero tolerance for sharing/voyeur type scenarios, I would avoid this project.
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I'm not talking about other characters, Only Vic.Not commenting on Victoria (the mother) with this statement, but the game as a whole as it pertains to the sex club aspect:
If you have zero tolerance for sharing/voyeur type scenarios, I would avoid this project.
I felt like there was a little bit of missed opportunity during the Rose path in how the MC deals with her similarities to mom. I was hoping for a toughness/trigger gated variation in how he reacts to the flashes of memory. MCs with high toughness or ones that accept the deal with strings attached could feel some conflicted arousal at banging a likeness to his mom. Not despite the fact, but because of the depravity in knowing how similar she is to mom but still taking advantage.
After playing through the whole thing, I can see how MC's psyche when dealing with mom's old porn is playing a very big role as a moral anchor and quite central to his character. There doesn't seem to be room for any blatant incest plot progression which is good. MC suddenly jacking off to her old porn or objectifying her would be out of the question. However, the writing in this game is great at depicting various dichotomies in people. Truth be told, watching old porn of his mom is a bit weird even if it is to remind himself of what she went through to provide for him. There is some deep seated psychological issues at play, and I think a little exploration of it for the high toughness/depravity embracing MC could have been really hot. Indulging in something that he may not even know he wants or ever accept to be true. Perhaps some conflicted source of arousal during interactions with Rose. Some variations in his contemplation after certain events. That sort of thing. Ultimately, not significant enough to derail the planned plot thread revolving around the mom's past (or his relationship with her in general), but just enough to scratch some of that itch many people might have playing this game.
After playing through the whole thing, I can see how MC's psyche when dealing with mom's old porn is playing a very big role as a moral anchor and quite central to his character. There doesn't seem to be room for any blatant incest plot progression which is good. MC suddenly jacking off to her old porn or objectifying her would be out of the question. However, the writing in this game is great at depicting various dichotomies in people. Truth be told, watching old porn of his mom is a bit weird even if it is to remind himself of what she went through to provide for him. There is some deep seated psychological issues at play, and I think a little exploration of it for the high toughness/depravity embracing MC could have been really hot. Indulging in something that he may not even know he wants or ever accept to be true. Perhaps some conflicted source of arousal during interactions with Rose. Some variations in his contemplation after certain events. That sort of thing. Ultimately, not significant enough to derail the planned plot thread revolving around the mom's past (or his relationship with her in general), but just enough to scratch some of that itch many people might have playing this game.
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Honestly I'm glad that MC's mother is only plot character. There is already dozens of games, where mothers only represent as sexual objects and not plot drive characters, it's diffidently a good thing that this game went in different direction. Personally, I'm fine with incest in the games, but I'm strongly against incest toward moms (I don't against those who like it), even despite that I don't self insert myself in hide of protagonist, the idea of having sex with person who gave birth this person make me uneasy, to say the least. But, for some reason, I find it hot to bang sisters in the games Maybe because I was was the only child in the family, so I just didn't have sibling relationships. Also as I heard from the others who has siblings, they usually not in that good relationships towards each other. In some stories they are almost enemies, at least in teenager period. But after they get mature and have their own families, the situation is getting better. So it's pretty fun for me to read this stories about pure sibling love. I don't say it's never happens, but keeping in mind how much weird this protagonists are, it doesn't look natural at all.
Maybe because I was was the only child in the family, so I just didn't have sibling relationships. Also as I heard from the others who has siblings, they usually not in that good relationships towards each other. In some stories they are almost enemies, at least in teenager period. But after they get mature and have their own families, the situation is getting better. So it's pretty fun for me to read this stories about pure sibling love. I don't say it's never happens, but keeping in mind how much weird this protagonists are, it doesn't look natural at all.
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I personally don't think there's gonna be anything like that, even if it's a sex club.Not commenting on Victoria (the mother) with this statement, but the game as a whole as it pertains to the sex club aspect:
If you have zero tolerance for sharing/voyeur type scenarios, I would avoid this project.
I mean, think about it. This isn't going to be a harem game, and you can choose who's going to win. For example in my playthrough as of now I chose Veronica to win the first round and Felicia stayed until third and got bukkake'd. So since this isn't a harem game and you can only choose one, the game probably assumes you don't care much about the rest except the one you chose. So you can keep your LI for yourself and probably not see any scenes with her . Then replay the game for the other girls.
Heck, even for Mina who's a LI and already has a boyfriend, you can't see any scenes with her bf unless you actively choose to. And you're even encouraged to kiss her, by said boyfriend of all people.
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Huh, I didn't think of it that way. I thought the toughness stat was for choices that come up when you need to stand up to assholes or something that harass the girls. But I guess it makes sense. I wonder if it's gonna lock you from "nice" choices in the future and if it's gonna lock you into an asshole mc personality.
It already does that. Off the top of my head,
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TD is the writer of the game btw
You're pretty much spot on with how it's going to work. If the player wants, they will always have a roundabout way of working with/keeping a favorite girl to themself, but that will leave the other two out to dry in the games that require more than just the player character's dick. Personally, I don't look at that as sharing (the Carnations aren't the player character's to "share" in the first place), but that's also me being painfully pedantic and I know other people will. Hence, the quick heads up about having zero tolerance for the stuff.
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Just so this vn doesn't soften in anyway. It's unique in it's unflinching depictions of the club activities. I am anxious to see what you all will come up with next
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Oh woops. Well atleast I was pretty spot on anyway like they said.TD is the writer of the game btw
I agree. Like I said, if this was a harem game I'd understand people's frustrations. But it ain't. And it means there's gonna be replayability too which is nice.
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Holy shit, this game is top shelf. I enjoyed this waaaaay too much. I can't wait to see how the story unfolds.
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I don't think this game could possibly work as a harem game. I mean it wouldn't be much of a sex club if all the girls were yours and yours alone.
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Making this a harem vn would kill everything that makes this so damn good and unique. My two cents