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As They said, "it's just a question of time":
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People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why 
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I wanted to write "because there is no direct connection between them"...but of course that isn't true. There is actually be a decent chance of that happening at some point. At the very least the foundations for it are already laid.People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why
Pretty sure Veronica would be up for it 100%.
MC & Sophia & Warren threesome! You know, when August and Chuck decide that the old doctor is getting too uppity and needs to be shown his place.Or Mina with Felicia & MC Threesome!
Very unprobable. From what we know about Sophia, she is the type of person who very exactly decides herself who she sleeps with and when. And a forced situation, baaad idea!
Sophia Lundgren is girlfriend material for Edwin! It is quite obvious from how they click together when they meet each other.
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You are totally wrong.
She will do whatever Abel will tell her, because she is literally subjugated by him. If she loses a chess match with Chuck, she will be forced to have sex - and more - with him.
Anyway, the dude was joking, I guess.
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Sophia very much seems to be the femme fatale of the story. I don't think she has much interest in Edwin herself. Abel probably ordered her to butter him up for something, and poor Edwin may or may not fall for it. Sophia and Abel are lawful neutral at best, and while not outright evil, I have no doubt Edwin is just another interchangeable pawn to them that also Kat and Chuck see him as. Sure, her chemistry with Edwin is off the charts, but I suspect she's deliberately honey trapping him for Abel to control.
Before we know it, Dr M̶e̶n̶g̶e̶l̶e̶ Abel will be pumping Edwin full of chems after being lulled by Sophia. Soriously, Edwin can't trust anyone associated with the club, except maybe Ian and Hana. None of them are remotely good people, and if Sophia's willing to work for a morally ambiguous guy like Abel, than you have the answer already regarding her character and morals.
Before we know it, Dr M̶e̶n̶g̶e̶l̶e̶ Abel will be pumping Edwin full of chems after being lulled by Sophia. Soriously, Edwin can't trust anyone associated with the club, except maybe Ian and Hana. None of them are remotely good people, and if Sophia's willing to work for a morally ambiguous guy like Abel, than you have the answer already regarding her character and morals.
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Sophia and Edwin? she's only testing the drug.
I think you totally overlooked the fact that uncle Chuck repeatedly affirms that Edwin is family and that he explicitly tells Kathleen to keep from involving Edwin with the drug testing (telling her that he knows about it, too).
I don't know how you're handling your gameplay, but I think any player might want to maximise his Chuck and Jacob friendship points.
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It's because of the way Veronica is initially presented.People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why
Unlike the other Carnations, she has a somewhat confrontational attitude to the MC and it persists well into the second week of the Exhibition. As a result the audience isn't primed to think about all the things they could do with Veronica, we're primed to think about whether we can get Veronica at all (or, I suppose, whether we'd want Veronica at all for those who dislike her). Combine that with the, shall we say... enthusiasm Veronica shows towards getting into Mina's pants and it's no surprise she seems more likely to compete with us for Mina than she is to share her.
I assume that would change the next time they meet if the MC has pursued both of them, but having thoroughly friendzoned Mina I'd probably have to start yet another run to find out.
I don't think that's quite right. Sophia makes it pretty clear Abel decides who she sleeps with, and I take her at her word. I believe that Sophia decided for herself to accept this arrangement (she wasn't forced into it through extortion or trickery), so to that extent I agree with you. I would not, however, describe that as Sophia 'deciding exactly' on her own. A willing agent is still ultimately an agent, not a principal.
Bit of a shame if that is the case. Looking forward to a return of the awkward seductress and can't think of better prey for a naive first timer than an apex predator. Factoring in Veronica's switch tendencies and how susceptible she has been to Mina's charms it just seems like a fun dynamic to explore
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As usual, the most hardcore players fancy the most "peculiar" female characters, and sooner or later they start either brooding that their favourite chick is neglected or dissing the most "vanilla" girls.
It happens in every thread.
It happens in every thread.
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Well, I'm afraid you'll have to wait. Next update is starting on wednesday morning, and MC is going to have a date with Felicia on wednesday night. So, next update is Felicia action time.
MC's schedule for the next update might be: morning, meeting at MC's with Hana & Ian; afternoon, at Club's; chores' time; back at home, Rose quality time; Felicia date at night. Dunno whether the update will include thursday too.
First, my point was more about her private life. Second, what some members here overlook is the very Samurai-Daimyo like relationship of Abel and Sophia. She will inherit his medical empire once he retires and before this happens she is his loyal agent. So yes, she will sleep with others if Abel orders her to or if Sophia decides herself as with the screenshot from above, where she selftested the drug.
But what some overlook is that Abel and Sophia might be morally ambigious, but it is very clear from what we see in PC that Abel is very fond of Sophia and they play their own game. They are in the club soley for their own gain, not like other club members, I am really sure that Abel will order Sophia not more than strictly needed.
As for the chess game and considering the special disdain Abel has for Chuck, Abel is confident enough that Sophia is better at chess for as long as they need until the two make their move. It is pretty clear from what we learned that baring a cheat from Chuck, Sophia is a far better player than Chuck.
Sophia and Edwin would be a great fit, esp. for a morally grey goodish ending.
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They don't have anything in common at all. And I think you're simply oblivious of the fact that she simply is a side character without scoring any game point whatsoever. The bouncers and August score game points, she doesn't. Just saying.
I guess you might feel the urge to write a Pale Carnation fan-fiction about her, methinks.
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You're either intentionally obtuse for the sake of it, or you're extremely naive.
Sophia is nowhere near morally good, she's neutral at best. Sophia and Abel have absolutely no qualms about working with the Club, and that immidiately sets off red flags. Sophia has absolutely no agency of her own, as everything she does is orchestrsted by Abel, and he's clearly scouted Edwin as a potential ally or threat, so he told Sophia to lay on the charm on Edwin so he can indirectly control him. All of that "chemistry" Edwin has with Sophia is just her telling him what he wants to hear, so he becomes more mallable to Abel. The fact that she's willing to get gangbanged under Abel's orders tells you everything you need to know about her character. Even if her and Edwin enter into a "relationship", her first priority will always be Abel and their shady work.
No potential ending with Sophia will be good for Edwin, as Sophia is a cold hearted snake that has way more in common with Kat rather than Hana or Mina. Also, Sophie's "private life" only extends as far as Abel's willing to grant her. If she wants to gain anything, she has to be Abel's bitch until his death. Her agency is purely an illusion for Edwin. If Abel told her to kill Edwin, he would be found dead the next day.
On the other hand, she'd be the perfect match for an evil Edwin. He's just as monstrous as her and Abel, and I suspect he'd enjoy Abel's line of "work".
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I'm just wondering why some people are imagining Sophia endings. As I've already wrote, some people are oblivious of the fact that there aren't any Sophia game points whatsoever.
MC has had sex more than once with Dalia, Lucy and Harper by now, for instance. Why aren't they imagining a Harper ending, for instance?
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I'd definitely take a Dalia ending. Jus sayin' hehe....
Wellmade characters have a tendency to develop into directions you did not intended them to go when you concepted them first. Could also happen here.They don't have anything in common at all. And I think you're simply oblivious of the fact that she simply is a side character without scoring any game point whatsoever. The bouncers and August score game points, she doesn't. Just saying.
I guess you might feel the urge to write a Pale Carnation fan-fiction about her, methinks.
You surely did not read some of my earlier posts on this topic, right?
Because then you would know that I very much acknowledge how Sophia Lundgren is as a person. To paraphrase myself:
Opening the door to her heart is a very different trail than those of Mina, Hana, Felicia, Rosi or Veronika, even Kat´s.
Sophia is a genius-level nerd, completely amoral, eccentric, cold, calculating and if what we know about her is mostly true, then Sophia also comes in very handy when the lead starts to fly.
You and her can click to a certain extend and you can end the current version of PC on good terms with her, if played for that. The seed is sown.
Pursuing her and gaining entrance to her heart would be a very interesting path to take!Not only for the main story but also on the "sidelines". Just imagine a repeat of Viktoria´s surprise visit not with Hana opening the door, but Sophia having stayed the night.
It would be a major shock for the MC´s mom that you are going for a woman like Sophia, since the good Doc IS different with a major D.
You are quite mistaken when you lump her together with Kat. Kat is into PC to sate her sadism, getting off on it. For Sophia sadism is not even on the radar anywhere, feelings have nothing to do with her being in the club.
And another hint that Sophia is not quite as bad as other important characters in the game, she states that Chuck is scary. When a person as amoral and calculating as Dr. Lundgren tells you about another person that he/she is scary, you should damn well better listen. That is actually a real life tipp also.
My personal theory for Sophia and Abel is that on the "goodish" Edwin paths they are either in deep cover for an acronym governmental organisation or on their own "crusade", while on the "badish" Edwin paths they are their own brand of a... like Edwin´s bosses.
You in addition overestimate how likely it is Sophia being the "honey trap" for Edwin. She is great at many things, but charm will never be one of it. She even unnerves Kat! A person like her is not honey trap material for most persons.
Sophia and Edwin in the bar area are two cardcarrying members of the nerd squad meeting each other.