Uryzell

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There are female characters, some who are major characters, who have sex and do sexual things with characters other than the MC. If you define them as Love Interests, then I suppose you might feel jealous and call it NTR. The mother (Victoria) is not and will not be a LI, and you'll notice there's no Incest tag here. The MC's friend (Ian) seems to respect and love Victoria like a mother, but the debate, and hope for some readers, is that it might develop into something romantic or sexual, but that remains to be seen and is unlikely. So if the mother's past as a porn actress creates angst in you, like NTR might, and that's something you don't want to experience, then you probably should move on. As Idontplay said, it's not actually NTR, but some people have expansive definitions of NTR. dolfe67 is probably right, but it's a great game if you can convince yourself that vanilla incest harem isn't the only type of enjoyable AVN.
I thank you for answering and explaining things, I definitely don't consider myself a vanilla guy, but there are certain things that I overlook, due to life's traumas, I thank you for explaining this to me, saving me from heartbreak when I go looking for fun , thank you very much, and may you all have a good game.
 

Dessolos

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Hi guys, I remember playing this game once, and apparently from what I saw, Mc's mother was involved in some pretty heavy stuff, and that made me drop the game, apart from Mc's friend's advances on his mother, and Since this isn't for me, I dropped it before seeing the conclusion, I wanted to know if there really is NTR or if the things about MC's mother were confirmed, if so I stay away from this game, could you clarify that for me? and don't be afraid to give me spoilers, thank you in advance.
I just recently played this for the first time Only thing I can see someone consider NTR is the club stuff with of the 3 main girls that work in the club. Even then idk if would call it NTR since the only scenes they they don't do with the MC is during the main shows and prep for the next show the club puts on as part of the story however the MC is present and watching. So if you consider them a LI id say it's more like sharing than NTR. Since that is part of the plot I don't even know if I would call them a LI since 2 of them are married. In regards to the mother that's just flashbacks when she did porn. I doubt she would become a LI or side girl in the future.
 

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From what i have read now mc mother doesnt have scenes with him just flashbacks is this correct? I had this game on my radar for a long time but i have limited space. Is it worth the download now in your opinion?
 

Dessolos

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From what i have read now mc mother doesnt have scenes with him just flashbacks is this correct? I had this game on my radar for a long time but i have limited space. Is it worth the download now in your opinion?
The flashbacks of his mom are the MC watching porn of his mom he found she made when he was younger. and Yes i think it's worth it really good characters when not dealing with the club stuff
 
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xslayermkdx

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By my opinion yes girls are very beautiful the graphics and the environment are cool the story its good if you don't mind the humiliation of the girls and certain perversions which are a little more then some games but on this website all the games are sexual or perverted more or less so its whole internet this days but to stop with the philosophy yes i recommend this game the story its really solid if that's important to you and the models are really beautiful!
 

xslayermkdx

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Leaving aside the fact that there's a hard no to incest from the devs, this would be a terrible idea.

It is mind-boggling to me that you think the story currently emerging from the game could survive the Carnation Club management kidnapping the MC's mother.



This seems much more likely. I suspect that there may well be a possibility of Ian stepping into that role. He and Victoria already get along and share interests, plus Ian has massive Mommy issues.
No need to be incest or Ian obviously the devs avoiding that scenario MC mother can go back to business like an escort or simply starting meeting people in night clubs or other places because loneliness and desperation for lust after so long being single or without sex and not see her self in relationship and she still considers her self young beautiful attractive and thinks she still has a lot to experience and enjoy in life and meeting Felicia for example in those night clubs that can drag her back into Carnations or rich people parties and orgies or Felicia is instructed by Kathleen to drag MC mother into situations like that so she can bring her back into the club or Felicia husband knows or finds out about MC and Felicia and bangs or force his mother into something or maybe she already doing parties or being escort without her son knowing and MC finally finds out or maybe she is not working
what she tells her son MC not visiting her very often anyway maybe she is still working for Carnations from time to time sleeping with enemies of the club recording them so they can later blackmailing powerful people so they will pay his scholarship instead they drag him into the club like some twisted game for Kathleen or maybe she works for competition because what they did to her in the past and the club finds out or maybe only Kathleen knows and hiring him instead killing them like some twisted game she enjoys maybe thats why his apartment was bugged and previous dude in that apartment dissapeared maybe he was working with MC mother or MC mother somehow being setup by Kathleen while MC watches from another room through glass or through cameras and MC instead reacting awakens some perversions that he will practice on the other girls or force or convince Mina to try those on her which she already confessed that she has very pervy thoughts and desires that she wants to try especially with him and that can lead to him proposing or tricking her or forcing her into join the club with promises of successful carrier which was mentioned that Mina struggles to succeed and later she regrets or practicing those on Rose later on
. Rose already shown that she wants to be dominated not only because of the agreement. Also MC mother can join the club or sexual activities because Kathleen or the doctor or doctor assistant by lying to her that her son its in trouble or because financial status she struggles and she not want to bother her son. Also being Gangbanged and dominated in the past awakened some pervert dark side in her that she struggled so much and for so long to keep it in her self because of her son but finally explodes again on the surface! I also really want to see scenes with Ian mother maybe between MC and Grace he becoming twisted and perverted so much and not being able to control himself ignoring the fact that she is his BF mother or she being involved in any other actions her husband never being home working traveling etc going in night clubs meeting Felicia and turn her into a slut or something like that or she admires MC ambitions and being responsible and planing being a doctor planing his big future totally opposite from her lazy son and she being ignored by her husband for so long after long conversation and some wine can lead to a lot more and MC can exploit that and turn her into his personal slut that he can exploit and blackmail but she being lonely can still enjoy after being ignored for so long and be seduced even more by MC pride arrogance and Big Tool or maybe he can use the syringe that Kathleen gave him on her. Ofcourse there is so many options and possibilities this are only few! About incest maybe there is possibility in some party with masks arranged by Kathleen and they dont know who they are or MC mother being tied up and turned with her back and MC being told to fuck her Hardcore maybe even analy like some twisted game from Kathleen or maybe because she works for someone the club dont like and she being punished without MC knowing who is fucking and hes is told to do her hard or maybe he did something the club dont like and thats the punisment while he being drugged or he thinks being rewarded while Kathleen gives him injection to make him super horny and he bangs her hard or something!
 
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No need to be incest or Ian obviously the devs avoiding that scenario MC mother can go back to business like an escort or simply starting meeting people in night clubs or other places because loneliness and desperation for lust after so long being single or without sex and not see her self in relationship and she still considers her self young beautiful attractive and thinks she still has a lot to experience and enjoy in life and meeting Felicia for example in those night clubs that can drag her back into Carnations or rich people parties and orgies or Felicia is instructed by Kathleen to drag MC mother into situations like that so she can bring her back into the club or Felicia husband knows or finds out about MC and Felicia and bangs or force his mother into something or maybe she already doing parties or being escort without her son knowing and MC finally finds out or maybe she is not working
what she tells her son MC not visiting her very often anyway maybe she is still working for Carnations from time to time sleeping with enemies of the club recording them so they can later blackmailing powerful people so they will pay his scholarship instead they drag him into the club like some twisted game for Kathleen or maybe she works for competition because what they did to her in the past and the club finds out or maybe only Kathleen knows and hiring him instead killing them like some twisted game she enjoys maybe thats why his apartment was bugged and previous dude in that apartment dissapeared maybe he was working with MC mother or MC mother somehow being setup by Kathleen while MC watches from another room through glass or through cameras and MC instead reacting awakens some perversions that he will practice on the other girls or force or convince Mina to try those on her which she already confessed that she has very pervy thoughts and desires that she wants to try especially with him and that can lead to him proposing or tricking her or forcing her into join the club with promises of successful carrier which was mentioned that Mina struggles to succeed and later she regrets or practicing those on Rose later on
. Rose already shown that she wants to be dominated not only because of the agreement. Also MC mother can join the club or sexual activities because Kathleen or the doctor or doctor assistant by lying to her that her son its in trouble or because financial status she struggles and she not want to bother her son. Also being Gangbanged and dominated in the past awakened some pervert dark side in her that she struggled so much and for so long to keep it in her self because of her son but finally explodes again on the surface! I also really want to see scenes with Ian mother maybe between MC and Grace he becoming twisted and perverted so much and not being able to control himself ignoring the fact that she is his BF mother or she being involved in any other actions her husband never being home working traveling etc going in night clubs meeting Felicia and turn her into a slut or something like that or she admires MC ambitions and being responsible and planing being a doctor planing his big future totally opposite from her lazy son and she being ignored by her husband for so long after long conversation and some wine can lead to a lot more and MC can exploit that and turn her into his personal slut that he can exploit and blackmail but she being lonely can still enjoy after being ignored for so long and be seduced even more by MC pride arrogance and Big Tool or maybe he can use the syringe that Kathleen gave him on her. Ofcourse there is so many options and possibilities this are only few! About incest maybe there is possibility in some party with masks arranged by Kathleen and they dont know who they are or MC mother being tied up and turned with her back and MC being told to fuck her Hardcore maybe even analy like some twisted game from Kathleen or maybe because she works for someone the club dont like and she being punished without MC knowing who is fucking and hes is told to do her hard or maybe he did something the club dont like and thats the punisment while he being drugged or he thinks being rewarded while Kathleen gives him injection to make him super horny and he bangs her hard or something!
May I interest you in the appeal of using periods and paragraphs good sir?
 

Ottoeight

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From what i have read now mc mother doesnt have scenes with him just flashbacks is this correct? I had this game on my radar for a long time but i have limited space. Is it worth the download now in your opinion?
People who have played this game and think that MC's mother might eventually be involved in sexual intercourse are not totally in their right minds.

As you might see, you don't see any incest tag. If you hope that one day this game will eventually have incest content... well, I think you should stop following this thread and never come back here again.
 

Turret

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People who have played this game and think that MC's mother might eventually be involved in sexual intercourse are not totally in their right minds.

As you might see, you don't see any incest tag. If you hope that one day this game will eventually have incest content... well, I think you should stop following this thread and never come back here again.
In this case you are spot on. TD and GIL always said that Vicki is more a story and plot device, less a datable character. Edwin´s Mom and her sacrifice (how much sacrifice there was is still up to debate) are part of the defining things for Edwin´s character and drives.
Viktoria might, might I say, have a relationship developing in the game, but it will never(!) be with Edwin.
 

Dessolos

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People who have played this game and think that MC's mother might eventually be involved in sexual intercourse are not totally in their right minds.

As you might see, you don't see any incest tag. If you hope that one day this game will eventually have incest content... well, I think you should stop following this thread and never come back here again.
I kinda of want the mother to be tricked somehow and show up at or start working at the club but not for incest reasons game doesn't need it. I just think it will add some fun drama between MC and mother + drama / tensions with the club it's self. As well could be an arc that Hana would help the MC with.
 

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I kinda of want the mother to be tricked somehow and show up at or start working at the club but not for incest reasons game doesn't need it. I just think it will add some fun drama between MC and mother + drama / tensions with the club it's self. As well could be an arc that Hana would help the MC with.
Sure, and I kanda of want some guy in search for revenge come and kill 'em all patrons and owners for their wrongdoings. It would be as fitting as Vicky becoming a club's hooker.

But since it's the Authors' story and not ours I would hand over to them on these matters (what fits in and what doesn't).
 
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People who have played this game and think that MC's mother might eventually be involved in sexual intercourse are not totally in their right minds.

As you might see, you don't see any incest tag. If you hope that one day this game will eventually have incest content... well, I think you should stop following this thread and never come back here again.
You do realize that Victoria getting "involved in sexual intercourse" doesn't have to be with the MC, right? We don't know, what TD has in store for her. Depending on the decisions of the player there could be a path were Kath will use her against the MC for example. She already kinda threaten him about that.
 

Dessolos

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Sure, and I kanda of want some guy in search for revenge come and kill 'em all patrons and owners for their wrongdoings. It would be as fitting as Vicky becoming a club's hooker.

But since it's the Authors' story and not ours I would hand over to them on these matters (what fits in and what doesn't).
.... doesn't mean we cant talk about fantasy scenario's we would like to see for fun. Not like im asking the dev to add that just for me I know that scenario I would want wont happen. Besides doesn't mean she has to be a hooker could just be forced to work there as a bartender or something unless the MC or she fucks up.
 
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