VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ottoeight]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

 

[CorprealFale]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

Well, lots of men are just boys who want a new mom who they can also fuck.
For them Rosalind makes perfect sense.

 

[Sleeping In Pieces]

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

It's a porn game, bro. The usual rules of logic don't apply.

 

[Bill Temple]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

You're too cold, man! Not everything is a tier list. What about true love?
What if a sudden realization crystallizes in Edwin's mind in the middle of one of her next h-scenes:

Rose: "Mmmh...! *Chup Fwup!*"
Edwin (thinking): "I... I think I love this woman! "
Rose: "*Shlup plap...* Mmmh...!"
Edwin: "Mhh, ahh."
Edwin (thinking): "I don't want to imagine a world where I don't wake up next to this angel every morning for the rest of my life."
Rose: "Ngggg! *CHUP, CHWUP, FWHUP, THURP...!*"
Edwin: "Unhh."
Edwin (thinking): "Damn, It might not be the most romantic time, but I don't want to wait one moment longer to ask her to marry me."
"Wiping the heavy perspiration from my brow as I tenderly back out of her throat, I clear my own to speak human words for the first time in two hours of sticky, carnal rutting."
Rose: "*huff huff*"
Edwin: "Hey Ian, can you ease up on Rosalind for a minute, I need her attention to ask something..."
Rose: "*Plapp plap...* AAAHNN!"
Ian: "Wha? *plap* Oh, yea, anything for my Eskimo Bro! Just *plap* one *plap* second. *plap* She's... *Plap* almost... *PLAP* There! *PLAPP!!* "
Rose: "Gaaah! I'm comiiiiiiinggg!"

Did I change your mind?

 

[Brainfurt]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Yes

 

[Idontplay]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

Accordingly with my experience most of the young men would love stay with an experienced beautiful older woman, just to learn how to fuck and then they would dump her to stay with an Hana or a Mina of their age.

P.S. If Ottoeight has tried to turn the table on, I think I have blew it up.

 

[Turret]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

Well, that always depends on personal tastes! My Top 3 (in no particular order) are Hana, Felicia and Sophia: So the (not quite as gothy as she might look) Goth drummer girl, the epicurean artist girl and the amoral genius nerd girl. So what does this tell you?
One thing is that TD1900 and GIL3D are really good, because normally I do not find girls tattooed to the heavy degree Hana is attractive at all.

 

[DirtyMario]

Guys, let me turn the tables on the debate on Rosalind being interested in a relationship with Edwin:

if you were a 21 years old man, would you really favour a 36 years old woman with a 12 years old daughter over a 19 years old blond model?

Seriously, bros, come on...

Most guys probably wouldn't. Different (but similar) point, Rosa probably wouldn't favor Edwin either. There are certain social norms you just can't weasel around. She has to introduce you to the girls from her book club (basically, FRIENDS is what I mean), you have to introduce her to your mom and her friends etc. And in about 20 years Edwin is in his late 30s, Rosa is a senior citizen and you both got really weird looks all throughout your relationship. Rosas daughter has reached an age where she questions just how horny her mom had to be to catch herself a guy this much younger. Most people would not want to put up with any of that.
Yes sure it's a fappy game and milfs in a certain age range are hot. Whatever, but we're talking realism at the moment.

Rose: "Ngggg! *CHUP, CHWUP, FWHUP, THURP...!*"

Every time I read that stuff I almost want to claw my eyes out.
I love you TD but jesus christ.
CHWUP FHWUP

 

[Bacchus1998]

Did you guys think that we have the chance to see a "fucked up" love path with Kathleen?

I truly believe she is the only character who is wife material.

 

[Nulldev]

Did you guys think that we have the chance to see a "fucked up" love path with Kathleen?

I truly believe she is the only character who is wife material.

I truly believe she is one of the characters who is wife material.
Fixed for you.

 

[Bill Temple]

Most guys probably wouldn't. Different (but similar) point, Rosa probably wouldn't favor Edwin either. There are certain social norms you just can't weasel around. She has to introduce you to the girls from her book club (basically, FRIENDS is what I mean), you have to introduce her to your mom and her friends etc. And in about 20 years Edwin is in his late 30s, Rosa is a senior citizen and you both got really weird looks all throughout your relationship. Rosas daughter has reached an age where she questions just how horny her mom had to be to catch herself a guy this much younger. Most people would not want to put up with any of that.
Yes sure it's a fappy game and milfs in a certain age range are hot. Whatever, but we're talking realism at the moment.

Every time I read that stuff I almost want to claw my eyes out.
I love you TD but jesus christ.
CHWUP FHWUP

Some of y'all love stretching the age difference between these two. Since we're talking about realism at the moment, twenty years from 36 is not a senior citizen. You can maybe argue that 62 is a senior citizen, but retirement ages are rising as people live and stay fitter longer, so realistically 65 or 68 is senior territory nowadays. 56 year olds can be and often are quite active and healthy. Twenty years from 22 is 42, decidedly middle-aged. Twenty years from 13 is 33, so Rosalind's daughter has reached the age where she fully understands just how horny her mom had to be to shack up with a studly catch like Dr. Turner.
And I think the book club gals will give respect to Rose for pulling a respectable Doc / sex-machine. Edwin's mom is clearly an open-minded person about social norms (e.g. retired pornstar), so she probably will be happy if her baby boy is happy.
Anyway, I'm not trying to talk anyone into a Rose ending if that's not their thing, just arguing for its viability.

PS - I love the Chwups and the Fhwups, but then again I don't know how else to concisely convey the symphony of wet, slappy sex sounds that I think heighten the reading experience.

 

[TD1900]

Every time I read that stuff I almost want to claw my eyes out.
I love you TD but jesus christ.
CHWUP FHWUP

I didn't write that particular instance, but point taken. 10+ years of eroge-reading has burned out my cringe reflex, but the porn parts must be constant agony for you.

Some of y'all love stretching the age difference between these two.

I mean, age gaps can be a big hurdle to a relationship. Personally speaking, I'm 33 and the thought of dating someone 10 years younger than me is unappealing. Even taking account of my own arrested development, the gap between life experience and relationship expectations would likely be large. But that is a personal problem, and as you get older, a 10 year age gap means less and less.

But, there's also 23 year olds who have lived a longer life than a 33 year old, so to speak. And that's the cut of it. It all comes down to the individuals and their circumstances. People have gotten together at similar ages to Rosalind and Edwin and made it work, just as countless people the same age break up every day. The totality of human experience is vast, and just because something is a hurdle doesn't mean you'll end up falling on your fat face. In my opinion, if you find someone to love you in this dark and cold world are banging a 10/10 stacked milf, don't let a few dirty looks get between you and happiness.

Generally speaking. Edwin + Rosalind, as it has been pointed out, would have a whole lot of other baggage to contend with.

 

[se20299]

I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.

Edwin is very susceptible to Rose, due to his own mommy issues and with Rose being in the same situation Vicky was when Edwin was a boy. But I believe Rose only sees Edwin as a useful idiot out of who she can fuck favors and help. It's a shame that Rose doesn't know about Vicky's circumstances, or she would be able to manipulate Edwin much more effectively.

Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.

Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.

 

[Ottoeight]

I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.

He was not a loser. He was an abusive man and a gambling addict who beat her. She was in an abusive relationship. And that ugly Kathleen bitch cruelly pointed it out (to her and to Edwin).

Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.

Are you really sure? honestly, I am not. Just think about what she tells Ian and Edwin.

Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.

It depends on your gameplay, as the subtletly changing dialogues and Edwin's thoughts show.

I don't remember the story hinting at the fact / telling that Ian "tested" Rose.

Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.

I think he wouldn't.

 

[dolfe67]

A big age gap in a couple is more accepted in society if the older one is the man, even though women live a few years longer than men. But there are exceptions, even famous ones like a certain president of a top 10 nation.

I think an ending with Rosa is certain, now how it plays out I'm not sure but there can be a good ending. If you play her good path you may notice how she's looking at him

 

[Ungawa]

I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.

Now this is a story all about how, Rose's life got flipped, turned upside down..

And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there...

I'll tell you how she's the Princess of a town called Bel-Air

...

Wait, wrong theme song...

Edwin is very susceptible to Rose, due to his own mommy issues and with Rose being in the same situation Vicky was when Edwin was a boy. But I believe Rose only sees Edwin as a useful idiot out of who she can fuck favors and help. It's a shame that Rose doesn't know about Vicky's circumstances, or she would be able to manipulate Edwin much more effectively.

I don't think useful idiot is quite the word for this one. Edwin has chances to go out of his way for all the girls and Rose responds accordingly. You can certainly exploit her and see a more vicious side, but someone on YOUR side for getting a bit of breathing room on finances hits different when you're out of your league on an issue. Rose has extraordinary circumstances and was thrust into it. So how she sees Edwin is in relation to what he's doing to help her with a bit of this also overlapping with assisting all the girls in knowing each other while also having them compete. What was stated before was that Rose is adaptable and that's her greatest strength. Girl certainly knows how to use it.

Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.

Still haven't gone through the new update but I think both Vicky and Rose are compartmentalizing what they have to do. We know there's social ramifications with Vicky but that princess is in an office castle so isn't quite dealing with her career. And no matter how much you cash this out, the ramifications and experience still hit you... We just don't know how yet.

Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.

I'm not understanding this one... Rose MIGHT look into something short term with Edwin or she won't. It's really not up to us at this time. We gotta see how the story flows. But I do know that if Rose gets help on the debt, there's a certain gratitude to that. But seriously, I'd put this as highly speculative. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Bacchus1998]

Seriously, no one is going to talk about the possibility of a romantic path with Kathleen?

you guys embarrass me with your narrow minds!


You guys look like a bunch of members of the Spanish Inquisition

 

[sauron93]

Seriously, no one is going to talk about the possibility of a romantic path with Kathleen?

you guys embarrass me with your narrow minds!


You guys look like a bunch of members of the Spanish Inquisition

She's pushing 90 bro. Your romantic path won't last long

 

[Ungawa]

Seriously, no one is going to talk about the possibility of a romantic path with Kathleen?

you guys embarrass me with your narrow minds!


You guys look like a bunch of members of the Spanish Inquisition

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[CorprealFale]

On the whole age gap.
The largest single commonality in future divorces is an age-gap. The closer in age two people in a relationship is, the less likely a divorce becomes.

So in the longterm it's unlikely it would actually work.