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Edwin is definitely an extremely fascinating MC. He seems very dissasociated, almost to the point of being emotionless. We occasionally see flashes of his true self, and it's a very chaotic mixture of a savior complex, mommy issues, unresolved anger, and willful ignorance of his true nature, because he knows deep down what's inside the rabbit hole of his sexuality. He does a lot of compartmentalizing to cope with his fucked up circumstances, as any other explanation would mess him up even more.

Let's start with his relationship with our favorite pornstar, Vicky. Our MCs problems truly began the first time 15 year old Edwin saw his mom getting gangbanged on the screen. Now, Edwin was already a nasty kid with a chip on his shoulder, raised by a single mom who couldn't possibly control him, but all kids eventually mellow out of their rebellious phase, just like Edein seemingly calmed down and became a fine young man. But we also know that there's a huge darkness lurking beyond the "mediocre nerd" surface Edwin presents.

He just seems like he's always pretending in social settings, almost none of his interactions at the start seem genuine. He gets better as the game progresses, but his lack of socialization is clear when the game starts. He's basically a shut in loser who watches his mom getting glazed by strangers in his free time, and his only "friend" is Ian, who has his own set of issues and complexes regarding Edwin and Vicky that deserve an analysis of it's own. My point is, Edwin is a fucking weirdo with a mother complex that hasn't even began to unpack his issues, because instictually, he himself is aware what lurks underneath the surface.

It's also very telling that Kat, the Dommy GILF herself, has immidiately indentified Edwin as her possible protege in sadism. Sure, Ian has been there for longer, but Ian still has that childlile naiveté to himself that makes him unsuitable for Kat's brand of sadism and torture. Plus, Kat smelled blood as soon as she found out about Vicky's past in porn, and how it affected Edwin. The biggest weapon Kat has in manipulating Edwin is Rosalind, who stirs up his mommy issues and draws the biggest parallel with Vicky, as they're both single mothers scratching out a living for their kids on their backs. We also see most of Vicky's flashbacks during Rose scenes, which further confirms my theory.

Edwins whole identity is based around repaying his mother for "enduring" humilliation for his sake, and his borderline obsession with Vicky suggests a lot of unresolved and unadressed issues, which resulted in Edwin's sadistic sexual tendencies. His compartmentalization of his mother's dark sexuality and her wholesome housewife persona means that he never truly came to terms with his mom's porn career, and now whenever he sees a woman enjoying degrading and humilliating sex, he assumes that she's "laying back and thinking of England", just like his mother must have done, because good women supposedly aren't supposed to enjoy degrading and humilliating sex, and that creates the dichtomy of his mother being a saint and a whore in his head. Edwin has a much more complete picture of Victoria than Ian, but I think that not even Edwin has the complete image of Victoria.

For example, during the sex scene at Rose's house, after he finds out Rose enjoys demeaning dirty talk, we get a flashback to Vicky enjoying a gangbang and going completely crazy, which Edwin copes with by choosing to believe that Rose's simply playing it up for Edwin just like Vicky did for the cameras.
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The same thing happens during Rose's porno shoot, after Rose gets completely lost in lust, we get a flashback of Vicky having some playful banter with a pornstar, and then later getting fucked silly by him, Edwin once again compartmentalizes this by assuming the girls were taking back control by forcing themselves to enjoy degrading sex.
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There's also Felicia's photoshoot, where Edwin has the option of getting angry at Felicia's flippant attitude towards the competition, and spitting on everything his mother suffered through, and we get another flashback of Victoria lying to little Edwin about working at the bar, and then a few hours later we see Vicky completely unconcious, getting completely glazed by a few strangers.
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This shows us Edwin's deep seated anger, that even Edwin himself doesn't know where it's coming from, as is evident by his inner monologue at the time.

There's also an interesting tidbit during Edwin's pillow talk with Mina, where he admits that the concept of defiling and corrupting something pure turns him on, and we get another flashback of Vicky getting fucked and verbally humilliated by some thug looking pornstar.
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There are a few more examples of Vicky's porn career affecting Edwin's sexuality, but I can't be bothered to find them all. My point is that Edwin needs to come to terms with Vicky's porn career and sexuality if he wants to have a shot at a healthy sexual life. His compartmentalization and repression of his anger only serves in Kat's favor, making her manipulation of Edwin easier, as Edwin still hasn't come to terms with Vicky's role in his sexual formation. We've sees the full gravity of his choices hit him when he realizes that August might have been one of his mom's producers and/or pimps, and he's so relieved by Vicky's denial that he doesn't notice that she's obviously lying, and the very next day she prods Ian for information about August, but he wisely doesn't let anything slip.

Vicky's been getting more and more nosy about Edwin's line of work, and I'm afraid that the resolution of that won't be pretty, but it will be pivotal for Edwin's character. I do think that Edwin's a bit of an unreliable narrator, as he's probably hiding some things from the player, but I think we have a clear enough picture of him to make an accurate assesment. Of course, YMMV depending on your playthrough.
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Anyway, thanks for reading this wall of text. Of cours, I may be completely wrong, but theorizing is the part of the charm until we get the full picture.
 

Seanny4712

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Is there an option to remove the Bottom Menu ?
(so I only access it by right clicking mouse)

It seems to detract from the rest of the display ,the picture and text.

Else if I cannot remove it ,is there a pic file I can iuse that is partly translucent (less gaudy)?
 
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TD1900

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Is there an option to remove the Bottom Menu ?
(so I only access it by right clicking mouse)

It seems to detract from the rest of the display ,the picture and text.

Else if I cannot remove it ,is there a pic file I can iuse that is partly translucent (less gaudy)?
As far as I know, no one's made a patch to do that, so the two simplest options:

1) Technically, you could use the command console to "hide screen qmenu", but the problem there would be the game occasionally hides and shows it at certain choices (usually anything with more than 3 options), so you would have to manually rehide it every now and then.

2) You can use a .bat file found on this forum called UnRen to unarchive the game's files and get access to the GUI folder and replace qmenu_idle.png and qmenu_hover.png with whatever you feel like, as for example, a blank or less transparent version of the quick menu images.

I will note we have been reworking various UI elements, so the bottom menu will likely get a redesigned, but that doesn't help you if you're just starting and are staring down 10+ hours of reading.
 

Seanny4712

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Jun 23, 2022
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Thank you for your very prompt answer so far.

How do I use option (1)?

I have used console in some FPS games but no where else.
What key do I press to open console ,and then what do I type?
(assuming it is that easy)
 

TD1900

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Thank you for your very prompt answer so far.

How do I use option (1)?

I have used console in some FPS games but no where else.
What key do I press to open console ,and then what do I type?
(assuming it is that easy)
There's a few ways:

1) You can activate the dev console in the game's files. That involves you editing a file in notebad and setting something to true.

2) You can use this. I've never used it, but one of the features is enabling the dev console, so that would get you there to (w/ other added benefits.)

3) You coooooould also unpack and open the project in ren'py's SDK, but I don't see why you do that when the above options are preferable.
 

Seanny4712

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Jun 23, 2022
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I used method (2).
I was aLittle confused initially.
I enabled console.
I opened console.
I pasted this bit in console - hide screen qmenu
I closed console.
BUT it did work.

It is like a different game without the bottom menu UI -much nicer.
Thanks.
 

agrdtcwa

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Guys what is the status/progress of the update? Is it coming before new years?
Probably not. Based on last dev update they just started working on the felicia date at the end of november. It is not reasonable to expect them to work at an increased pace and finish it during holiday season. There have been no estimates by the developers themselves but January or February would be my best guess unless they are adding even more scenes in the update.
 

Ness99

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Unfortunately for me there is no French translation for this incredible game and my English is bad.
There are things that I don't really understand, could someone explain to me what Hana's new role is at the club and what it consists of?
Could she be part of the shows in a sexual way? Finally, is it possible that there is incest between Hana and her father or Mc and his mother?
Thank you to the kind soul who will take the time to answer me.
 

Takkatakka

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Unfortunately for me there is no French translation for this incredible game and my English is bad.
There are things that I don't really understand, could someone explain to me what Hana's new role is at the club and what it consists of?
Could she be part of the shows in a sexual way? Finally, is it possible that there is incest between Hana and her father or Mc and his mother?
Thank you to the kind soul who will take the time to answer me.
Effectively Hana took over parts of her fathers shares, so she is now partly an owner of the club like her Father, Kat and Chuck.

Seems like Kat wants Hana to take part in the shows like Kat herself. Coming up with "games" or judging the Carnations at the end of a game etc.

I doubt she will take part in a sexual way. That would not fit her character in any way right now.

Incest will not be in the game, neither between the MC and his mother, nor between August and Hana.
 
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ename144

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According to these numbers TD and GIL have added 254 statics, 0 animations and 6004 words since the last dev diary two weeks ago, an average of roughly 127 statics, 0.0 animations and 3000 words per week. Overall they are averaging ~100 statics, 2.4 animations and 2300 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 14:
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So far thing seem to be proceeding pretty smoothly. Presumably the low animation count indicates the devs are currently working through the less sexual parts of Felicia's date. If that's the case, and assuming Felicia's date is similar in scale to Hana's and Veronica's, that implies we might have a ways to go before the update is complete. Still, this is just speculation. We'll probably have a better idea how extensive Felicia's big night will be by the end of the year.

I'm still looking forward to it, even if it winds up being a longer than normal wait!
 

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Good to see progress is not only being made, but also measured and analyzed so expertly.;)
Though, I have to say that with this spoiler title I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to enjoy some holly or holiday lights borders along with some clipart christmas stockings, menorahs, and reindeer in the corners.
 

ename144

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Good to see progress is not only being made, but also measured and analyzed so expertly.;)
Though, I have to say that with this spoiler title I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to enjoy some holly or holiday lights borders along with some clipart christmas stockings, menorahs, and reindeer in the corners.
Hey, between the oncoming holidays, work, BaDIK releasing a new episode, and me coming down sick I'm afraid you'll have to make do with more primitive festivities. It's the thought that counts, right? :whistle:
Minimally_festive.jpg
 

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According to these numbers TD and GIL have added 254 statics, 0 animations and 6004 words since the last dev diary two weeks ago, an average of roughly 127 statics, 0.0 animations and 3000 words per week. Overall they are averaging ~100 statics, 2.4 animations and 2300 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 14:
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So far thing seem to be proceeding pretty smoothly. Presumably the low animation count indicates the devs are currently working through the less sexual parts of Felicia's date. If that's the case, and assuming Felicia's date is similar in scale to Hana's and Veronica's, that implies we might have a ways to go before the update is complete. Still, this is just speculation. We'll probably have a better idea how extensive Felicia's big night will be by the end of the year.

I'm still looking forward to it, even if it winds up being a longer than normal wait!
So...ETA about mid to end January. :unsure:
 
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Ragnar

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4 months to only see some damn graphics that no one cares about and a report saying "shit, time flies" 4 months where he is receiving a salary based on patreons and does not release any damn update, before the developers updated their games every month, but now they stretch their time waiting times waiting to retire. So what are we really paying for? Do we pay for the damn game or are we supporting a lazy person who is showing us graphics like painkillers while he lives off of us?
If you're paying for something you're a very bad pirate :KEK: But I doubt you payed for anything.
 

Pitrik

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1st time player ( yeah i know, at good time ) , can i have both Mina and Hana in one playthrough?
 

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1st time player ( yeah i know, at good time ) , can i have both Mina and Hana in one playthrough?
sorta, just go with the FWB option with Hana rather than girlfriend when it comes up, then you are good to go (probably one of the most critical choices in the game so far... I mean the fuckbuddy/GF decision so probably worth to make a save there)
 
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Ragnar

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1st time player ( yeah i know, at good time ) , can i have both Mina and Hana in one playthrough?
Mina route should have a threesome some day but if you commit to Hana there is a cheating stat.
You can go fwb with Hana tho.
 
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