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Hana becoming a carnation would be even more incredible, Kat said it herself Hana has porn in her veins. I want to see it!
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Word on the street is that there's a new Dev Diary out this week and it somehow leaked to F95. I can neither confirm nor deny this rumor, but I do happen to have some updated numbers for my spreadsheets, so we might as well run through them, right? Hang on, what's that over there, far from this post? Is that Felicia in a *very* revealing body suit?! Better check it out!
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Oh, never mind, I guess it was just a trick of the light. Weird.
Anyway, new numbers. As you are no doubt hearing here first, TD and GIL completed 206 statics, 13 animations and 5362 words in the 21 days between the latest dev diaries. That's an average of about 69 statics, 4.3 animations and 1790 words per week, give or take a significant figure. That brings the overall average to ~97 statics, 2.7 animations and 2270 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 22:
As TD would no doubt have noted if we had somehow seen his diary, this is going to be quite a large update. It's also, as of yesterday, had the longest development time so far. The two are obviously linked, though looking at the charts it doesn't seem like volume of art alone is driving the timeline. (It would be interesting to see how the word count for this update compares with the larger updates before TD started reporting that metric, but my guess is it would be a similar ratio to the art numbers.) It could be that the devs have had less time overall to work on the game (holidays can certainly have that effect), but from what TD has said I suspect it has more to do with the update having a lot of moving parts.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Between Felicia's date apparently having multiple ways to approach it and the rising tension at the Club, it makes sense this update would need a lot of planning. The proof will ultimately be in the pudding, of course, but our devs have consistently put out a top notch product, so I'm not concerned by the wait. If they think it's worth this level of detail, they're almost certainly right. What matters is that I'm still looking forward to the release, and would be even if TD hadn't recommended we do so. (Or so I heard.) There's a lot to look forward to.
It's just a shame they couldn't figure out a way to give us a little Veronica time in the bargain, but such is life. We all have to make sacrifices sometimes.
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"It was a quiet, seething anger that coursed through the blonde's veins."
"It was a quiet, seething anger that coursed through the blonde's veins."
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No, Kat didn't state she wants to turn Hana into a carnation. She wants to manipulate her but to be able to do what she wants with the club (either Hana do nothing with the club and sells her share, or she keeps her share but obey Kat for club's decisions).
Hana might participate in the carnation events though, as the same role as Kat.
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She better be using strong tape for that one.
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Or not?She better be using strong tape for that one.
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Well...yesOr not?
But I was under the impression that this is an important and somewhat serious event for her she want to enjoy and be taken serious at, so...
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Yeah it's pretty obvious that Kat's making a play to remove the 2 other owners. My guess is that she wanted the mc to make the club attractive enough to finally take her dad's shares that he's offering. After she gets the shares Kat will either try to get her to sell them to her or atleast make her think Kat is the better option to side with over her dad. I think the real reason Kat has been trying to nurture the mc is because Chuck wanted to give Ian shares as well but he's such a fuck up/not ready even Chuck knows that's a bad idea.
I'm thinking toward the end Kat takes over with the backing of mc and Hana/ their shares. Or Kat, Chuck and Aug are replaced by mc, Ian and Hana.
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Yeah. And something happened that really upset her.Well...yes
But I was under the impression that this is an important and somewhat serious event for her she want to enjoy and be taken serious at, so...
We'll see.
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God, she's so cute when she's angry.
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Yeah, GIL3D's facial expressions are on point again.
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I think any of kats plans regarding going against chuck and august would have been around before edwin joined the club and her plan involved knowing that hana would think Edwin is "attractive" (either "hot" or "attractive/good" enough to stake her entire future in a very very illegal business would be a pretty insane plan especially considering you can lower Hana's affection and raise her anger which seems like a risk kath would want to avoid (giving hana more reason to dislike the club)
Has there been anything in story showing that Chuck would want to give Ian his shares (beyond chuck being a family first guy)? Hana "needs" the money both in the short and long term and august even mentions something about him reflecting on his life recently to Edwin whereas chuck is as reflective as a slab of wet concrete, also Ian is not a guarantee at the club (in the future) either since he has the possibility to be more introspective in the recent updates.
iirc there will be two "paths" that endings will branch off from either Edwin wanting to stay as part of the club or Edwin attempting to leave it so both/either your proposed endings could happen
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It's been a while but when Hana decides to be more active in the club and talks of receiving some of Aug's shares Ian asks Chuck why hasn't he done something like that for him and Chuck responds that Ian hasn't shown that he's ready for that responsibility.I think any of kats plans regarding going against chuck and august would have been around before edwin joined the club and her plan involved knowing that hana would think Edwin is "attractive" (either "hot" or "attractive/good" enough to stake her entire future in a very very illegal business would be a pretty insane plan especially considering you can lower Hana's affection and raise her anger which seems like a risk kath would want to avoid (giving hana more reason to dislike the club)
Has there been anything in story showing that Chuck would want to give Ian his shares (beyond chuck being a family first guy)? Hana "needs" the money both in the short and long term and august even mentions something about him reflecting on his life recently to Edwin whereas chuck is as reflective as a slab of wet concrete, also Ian is not a guarantee at the club (in the future) either since he has the possibility to be more introspective in the recent updates.
iirc there will be two "paths" that endings will branch off from either Edwin wanting to stay as part of the club or Edwin attempting to leave it so both/either your proposed endings could happen
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Kat was using mc to show Hana that something good could come from the club. She also thought her friendship with him would stop her outbursts that could put the club in danger(band incident). She was trying to find a way to deal with her even tho her hands were tied and the mc was a great benefit to her. Hana's anger would be the reason she'd sell Kat her shares as a final screw you to her dad. She'd have enough money for herself and to care for her mom without needing to depend on her dad.
Yeah I can see the mc either staying or going depending on choices made in the game. When I say that the trio would take over I dintbthink the club would stay exactly the same. Like they might still have Carnations competitions but they'd help all 3 at the end. Like a more humane version of the current club.
Yeah Felicia is a tough one for me. The others are doing this because they're desperate but Felicia seems to just want to get back at her husband. It's like what would she even do as a member? Would she help fund the thing if it's reformed under the trio? Take Kat's role of bringing in Carnations who would actually want to be there? It's like I really want to help the others and Felicia doesnt need the club to solve her problems which seem to be a dead marriage and self esteem issues.
I wonder if they could make it more humane while still having people pay for it but all ending speculations change pretty heavily every update so who knows?
I read Felicia as trying to get "power" that is hers instead of her husbands. Sure she gets whatever she could possibly want but was given no chance to do something she actually wanted despite it not even being a direct benefit to her and that it would have been easy to solve (the school she mentions) hit her pretty hard. There might be other ways perhpas even better ways to get "power" but she enjoys sex, her husband is kind of a dick, and I doubt Ian was 100% transparent about how much sadism was involved at the club (probably didn't mention shock batons)
However I personally think her "prize" is by far the best of the 3.
Rose paying off the debts (and none of the debt collectors being shady and trying to collect later/the huge risk (to her) that her daughter finds out) comes out at a net zero
Veronicas gym stuff being resolved MAYBE puts her at 0 (but learning that literally the last few months of her life has been a game for samson to fuck her is pretty soul crushing especially after the competition)
Felica getting connections (if nobody else Chuck understands/respects/will tell people to shut up so he can watch her) not only right now but for possibly years puts her tangibly ahead of where she started. Probably not the smartest play but damnit if it isn't the most interesting.