VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Bill Temple]

Remember to apologize to rose after using her mouth in the very first scene - otherwise you will be locked out completely from her route which imo is the only satisfying main girl if you go for darkness.

And yeah, you basically only get to see the club stuff iirc - which percentage wise gets less and less the longer the game goes on. Look forward to play 10% of updates and without any action.

Been there.

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.

 

[Panzercat39]

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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Yeah,I totally went full asshole in first playthrough,found myself more in line with Mrs.Kathleen's morals,was a bit of an oversight.

 

[BlenderGuy]

Remember to apologize to rose after using her mouth in the very first scene - otherwise you will be locked out completely from her route which imo is the only satisfying main girl if you go for darkness.

And yeah, you basically only get to see the club stuff iirc - which percentage wise gets less and less the longer the game goes on. Look forward to play 10% of updates and without any action.

Been there.

Yea, I already noticed it's extremely restrictive as a route. Not sure I'll continue you till the end.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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*Genghis Khan enters the chat*


That's what I play games for? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bringing reality into AVNs... making AVNs about reality... I don't know. Being a good person is satisfying enough IRL. No need for AVNs about that really imo. Just step out of the door and . kek


If reality should ever enter the game then please in the form of Edwins balls immediately falling off when he climbs on that pussy seat of Hana's motorcycle.

 

[TD1900]

Maybe a short question to TD1900 : The last update teases further scenes on Rose's deal route and the game also mentions she might only be at Edwin's appartment for 2-3 days. Will Edwin make use of their deal in the next update already?

Thanks a lot.

As has been speculated:

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Which, by the way, I'm glad you enjoyed the HJ scene. It was an unfortunately last minute pittance we squeezed into that update that, so it's appreciated to hear that the vibes landed with someone.

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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Actually, the lesson there is: Rose a snakey bitch.

 

[ImSenjou]

I finally finished my best gameplay, it's not perfect, but close.

Someone who I unknowingly ignored in other gameplays, but was at the top of my list this time, was Sophia, I don't know how I could ignore her before, to be honest, I barely remembered her, but she's already my new favorite.

I still like Hana and Mina, maybe because I paid so much attention to them before, this time I paid more attention to the others, like Felicia, for example, I have the impression that she really likes the MC, and felt a little jealous when she heard about MC and Mina, as if she really liked him, but for him, she's just another one… maybe I'm thinking too much, but that's the impression I got.

Another one that I really like, but I will always have doubts about, is Rose, in this gameplay I ignored Veronica to stay at home with Rose, it was good, but those faces she shows at the end, give me even more doubts about her, I don't really know what to think.
I believe that she likes spending time with the MC, but doesn't want him to like her too much, perhaps she would prefer him to just use her, or, she is the one using him!

As I have doubts about Rose, I would like to read other opinions about her.

 

[Ottoeight]

As every novel is, Pale Carnation is a fiction. A very well written fiction, but a fiction nonetheless.

If it were reality, our pal Edwin would be a serial murderer of prostitutes by now.

 

[Randomguy3478]

As has been speculated:

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Which, by the way, I'm glad you enjoyed the HJ scene. It was an unfortunately last minute pittance we squeezed into that update that, so it's appreciated to hear that the vibes landed with someone.




Actually, the lesson there is: Rose a snakey bitch.

Mostly hoped for 1on1 content with rose just because I'd guess the tone of the MMF will change compared to the handjob - but I'm a big fan of Ian, probably my favourite character of all, so I'm looking forward to that.

Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

PS: As I may have your attention: The feminist writing makes me so goddamn salty!!
But that long cooking steam off my chest: quality-wise, regardless if H-scene or not, its imo the only western AVN with writing on the level of good jap Eroges. Arousing, funny, serious and enjoyable af. Thanks for all the effort of both you and GIL. Much <3

 

[Takkatakka]

The feminist writing makes me so goddamn salty!!

The feminist writing in the game with the sex club in which women get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money?

 

[Randomguy3478]

The feminist writing in the game with the sex club in which women get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money?

*where the women choose to get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money.

The devil is in the detail!

 

[TD1900]

The feminist writing in the game with the sex club in which women get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money?

Cunnilingus is gay.

 

[Simpgor]

Cunnilingus is gay.

Well then.....

 

[Bill Temple]

Cunnilingus is gay.

It finally happened. Lykanz hacked TDs F95 account.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Cunnilingus is gay.

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

Just like it's degrading for a woman to go on her knees and get sperm shot in her mouth. The difference is: depending on what kind of relation you want with a girl, you might not mind a girl who is okay with getting degraded. Many men like submissive girls. But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

 

[Simpgor]

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

Having Mina on her back with her legs directly above her head and having complete control of the situation including her body and pleasure is degrading?

It's pretty degrading to stick your dick into a vagina tbh the dirty woman pee out of there

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

Just like it's degrading for a woman to go on her knees and get sperm shot in her mouth. The difference is: depending on what kind of relation you want with a girl, you might not mind a girl who is okay with getting degraded. Many men like submissive girls. But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

the hell is this the 1860s in a quaker church? If the thought of licking at the female temple turns you off, maybe it's time to consider the turgid variety....

 

[TD1900]

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

Just like it's degrading for a woman to go on her knees and get sperm shot in her mouth. The difference is: depending on what kind of relation you want with a girl, you might not mind a girl who is okay with getting degraded. Many men like submissive girls. But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

Setting aside the (IMO faulty) premise of sex being an act that inherently means one person getting a leg up on the other, because the sex scenes in this game do largely revolve around and fetishize the exchange of power, but... even from that murky dichotomy, context is king. In terms of what is presented in the project, there is a difference between serving Kathleen like a dog or taking control of Mina by seizing her by the metaphorical lady balls.

Generally speaking, like in a healthy actual human being way, giving shold be empowering.
Or the dirtiest of all, an intimate gesture of trust and love.

 

[Turret]

I finally finished my best gameplay, it's not perfect, but close.

Someone who I unknowingly ignored in other gameplays, but was at the top of my list this time, was Sophia, I don't know how I could ignore her before, to be honest, I barely remembered her, but she's already my new favorite.

I still like Hana and Mina, maybe because I paid so much attention to them before, this time I paid more attention to the others, like Felicia, for example, I have the impression that she really likes the MC, and felt a little jealous when she heard about MC and Mina, as if she really liked him, but for him, she's just another one… maybe I'm thinking too much, but that's the impression I got.

Another one that I really like, but I will always have doubts about, is Rose, in this gameplay I ignored Veronica to stay at home with Rose, it was good, but those faces she shows at the end, give me even more doubts about her, I don't really know what to think.
I believe that she likes spending time with the MC, but doesn't want him to like her too much, perhaps she would prefer him to just use her, or, she is the one using him!

As I have doubts about Rose, I would like to read other opinions about her.

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Hi!

There are several reasons why I stated in a couple posts before that I think Hana, Felicia and Sophia are the top LIs for our Edwin!

 

[ThorinKing]

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

Just like it's degrading for a woman to go on her knees and get sperm shot in her mouth. The difference is: depending on what kind of relation you want with a girl, you might not mind a girl who is okay with getting degraded. Many men like submissive girls. But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

Is it really degrading if a man seeks to give pleasure to the woman he loves in all manner of ways? I'd say a man unwilling to go down on a woman is very insecure with himself. Any woman willing to put up with such a beta deserves the bad relationship.

 

[Takkatakka]

Or the dirtiest of all, an intimate gesture of trust and love.

I know this is a porn forum with all kinds of weird kinks and fetishes, but this might seriously cross a red line!

I'd say cunnilingus is degrading.

Just like it's degrading for a woman to go on her knees and get sperm shot in her mouth. The difference is: depending on what kind of relation you want with a girl, you might not mind a girl who is okay with getting degraded. Many men like submissive girls. But does one really want to be a man who enjoys degrading himself? Who is submissive?

I certainly don't.

Dude, the idea is to have fun and make each other feel good. You aren't supposed to establish your unquestionable sovereignty over the poor woman.