don't know, it seems to me that the ending of the presenter with any of the carnations is quite real, although for me the more real ending is the one in which one carnation gets everything and the other 2 lose and remain as slaves of the club or maybe all three
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And? PC is a game where the MC will never get a virgin anywhere! All LI options and even the sports fucking ones have had sex before meeting the MC. In Sophia´s case here she was self-testing one of her creations.
Man, I think that everybody will agree with me when I say that there does exist "some" middle way between being virgin and being gangbanged on a table in front of spectators because you "need" to test a drug you've just concocted.
That is btw the biggest red flag about her...
If this turn you off from a girl in this game you are probably playing the wrong game. I guess for now you have Hana or Mina but it seems likely that it won't be the case forever. All the girls will probably do something "a bit" extrem sexualy at some point.
Again, I see Sophia very differently. I don't think she was testing the MC, at least not in the sense that she was comparing him against preexisting objective criteria. I think she was simply poking him and noting how he responded because it gave her something to do. Like Sherlock Holmes, I suspect her brain craves stimulation; Holmes would resort to cocaine when business was slow, Sophia prefers to dose people with an unlicensed aphrodisiac.
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I kind of hope not while I have no issue with anything in this game. What makes me like these 2 LI more than others is the fact that they are more normal and not doing anything extreme. I mean okay Mina wants to experiment so it would be in her character to try to do some extreme stuff here and there but I hope Hana doesn't.
I don't think so. It was an introduction to Serena: it's her "field" - she's one of the girls posing as living statues in the room before the second exhibition.
yep, not my kind of girl when she goes through stuff like that voluntarily. They don't have to be virgin but there is a limit
Maybe it's just a difference in taste then, because 10 seconds of that material is enough for me to understand the story, I don't need any more.
Bro, what can I tell you?Again, I see Sophia very differently. I don't think she was testing the MC, at least not in the sense that she was comparing him against preexisting objective criteria. I think she was simply poking him and noting how he responded because it gave her something to do. Like Sherlock Holmes, I suspect her brain craves stimulation; Holmes would resort to cocaine when business was slow, Sophia prefers to dose people with an unlicensed aphrodisiac.
IMHO, her making out with the MC has nothing to do with her feelings for him, she just wanted to figure why he wasn't getting off and fix that so she could get back to watching the Carnations who were testing the drug she actually cares about. She theorized Kathleen's handjob wasn't doing it for him, so she took action herself. If the MC starts kissing Sophia, she plays along until she gets the result she was looking for, at which point she seemed to lose all interest in him. Likewise, I see no banter in her quoted exchange with the MC in his living room. He said something she didn't understand so she asked for clarification.
This isn't to say that there can't be a more meaningful relationship between the MC and Sophia in the future; we're clearly going to be spending more time with her. But as of right now, I see nothing in her behavior that can't be explained as well (or better) by Sophia being every bit the disinterested henchwoman she appears to be at first glance. Your mileage clearly varies.
I know... it's so painful I feel like tearing up
. Still gonna hit though (after she purifies herself in hot water for 3 days). 
When I say that I ignored Sophia before, I'm not exaggerating, I don't even remember that scene, can anyone tell me what scene was that, or a dialogue from that scene, so I can look it up here?
Moreover, the go game scene - and the chess game scenes - has a meaning because it is showing us who really Uncle Chuck is, and what Ian might become because of him.
Chuck tells Kathleen to stop playing games with Edwins head because he is family (rose 2nd performance). Chuck couldn't tell Abel to do anything that's kind of their whole rivalry deal. Besides that has already been ignored because of the scene with Kathleen and Sophia that happens after.
I think if you (try to) resist the drug her and Kathleen give you Sophia acts a bit surprised/interested (more than usual) in Edwin being able to do that before comparing Edwin to Chuck but like you said that's not in the Edwin specifically just in anybodies ability to resist it.
That´s dedication to your job!
Agreed!
Hey, our different views are great for discussions, always fun! While I agree that some questions were Sophia simply going with the flow of conversation, I have the strong feeling that part of the test was checking some predefined boxes/criteria. Sophia simply sating her mental stimulation desires could have gone with a myriad of topics and to top it off we have the "home invasion" just a bit later. A "disinterested henchwoman" would certainly not lead to such a chain of events!
It is stated ingame that Sophia really starts to get into it with the MC until he comes, where her scientist persona takes over again. But the thing is not how fast she goes back to watching the Carnations, but that Sophia participated in this makeout session at all. Were Sophia disinterested in the MC, she could have simply observed what happens and why he does not come and shows some remarkable staying power. Such observation of unusual ractions to stuff is part of testing new drugs.
There is earlier during the "bug presenation" and the quoted exchange has a bit of it in that Sophia was surprised where that quote comes from since Gandhi said something similar. The MC could have used the Gandhi quote instead.
That is not correct, sorry! Chuck tells KAT to stop using the MC in HER mind games, there is nothing about Abel and Sophia in that talk. I truly doubt Chuck knows much about Sophia´s inventions.
I'm just watching with my buddy 
