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Does anyone have a gallery unlocker for the new update?

I want to get all the scenes however many times i play the game i never get the rosland latest scenes
 

Randomguy3478

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So rose is a liar Lol in her interview she says she only slept with four people
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but in the proluge Ian pretty muchs says he's fucked her Lol

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Its always hard to know what is intended and what may have been overlooked by TD - I mean there is so much to keep track of. But if its in the same scene...

I'm a bit surprised anyway that many take the girls' stories at face value. Rose is the poor blameless victim, swept along by the waves of life. Felicia is the pure hearted angel who chased the wrong dream.

In the end TD decides.

I don't know why there's morality tied to Felicia choosing to marry up. She was born poor but sexy and intelligent. She has had a frat/party girl college years and hides her Southern Belle accent as much as possible. She thought that money would solve her problems then realized later on that the life of someone else's money wasn't going to help her with all her problems. There's a bit extra to her story that people forget. She's upper echelon. High class society. But she's not a bimbo. She's smarter than her sexy looks to realize a LOT of social faux pas and keep away from the ones that can harm her and friends.

And yes... Elias could find another woman. But remember the interview. He's transitioned from railroads to talent agencies and so far up his own backside that he'd have to look for another and with how Felicia can charm the rattle off a snake, it's highly likely he'd screw that up.

Sorry, but I have honestly difficulties to understand what you exactly mean.

Felicia was a prostitute since leaving her town. And now she does horrible stuff as a wife even within the context of their strange marriage.

Not sure what her intelligence or wish for own money has to do with that.

Did not understand your argument for why elias would not find another woman. Why would he screw that up? The talent agency makes it even easier, no?
 

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Thanks, Turret!

Unfortunately, we see Abel and Sophia almost entirely differently, so I find it hard to respond to your takes.
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Hi ename144!
We might see Abel and Sophia differently, but that let´s us cover all bases. :)

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Sorry, but I have honestly difficulties to understand what you exactly mean.

Felicia was a prostitute since leaving her town. And now she does horrible stuff as a wife even within the context of their strange marriage.

Not sure what her intelligence or wish for own money has to do with that.

Did not understand your argument for why elias would not find another woman. Why would he screw that up? The talent agency makes it even easier, no?
... No. She was a party girl, not a prostitute. Frat girls don't necessarily become whores. When she met Elias, she was a bartender. The problem is more that you're focused on making her what you want to be instead of listening to her story. Each person has layers to their character and for Felicia specifically, she's not the titles of "House wife", "trophy wife" or any other thing. Yes, she's a direct contrast to Rosalind who was the devoted mother and she has stepkids. Yes, she climbed up to social ranks. But the strength of her character is not in a label. It's in how she defied the odds to make it where she thought she wanted to be.

In regards to Elias, my point is look at how he acted the entire interview. He's so far up his own end about how good he needs to act that he could not talk to many women in high society without boring them off. He rattles on about projects no one wants to talk about, he ignores Felicia and his surroundings and environment, and glaring obvious details to the reader are things he always misses. Odds are that Felicia scouted him out. But all you have to do is let Elias talk and people will realize how full of hot air he is.

Finally, I'm left wondering what's so strange about their marriage... It's a marriage of convenience. Look at Kathleen. Her husband's a judge. The Police Chief calls her out in high society and Felicia knew her. Kathleen smells of old money and she's the most honest and evil bitch out there. Do you think that her husband is okay with her activities at the club or are we seeing Kathleen using her authority to her own advantage to try to take down Felicia? Real life has marriage of convenience and it's usually used by those in the high life to protect businesses or strengthen the family name or somesuch. We don't have to agree to it ourselves, just know it's a part of the story and shows different parts of the struggles of the character.
 
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... No. She was a party girl, not a prostitute. Frat girls don't necessarily become whores. When she met Elias, she was a bartender. The problem is more that you're focused on making her what you want to be instead of listening to her story. Each person has layers to their character and for Felicia specifically, she's not the titles of "House wife", "trophy wife" or any other thing. Yes, she's a direct contrast to Rosalind who was the devoted mother and she has stepkids. Yes, she climbed up to social ranks. But the strength of her character is not in a label. It's in how she defied the odds to make it where she thought she wanted to be.

In regards to Elias, my point is look at how he acted the entire interview. He's so far up his own end about how good he needs to act that he could not talk to many women in high society without boring them off. He rattles on about projects no one wants to talk about, he ignores Felicia and his surroundings and environment, and glaring obvious details to the reader are things he always misses. Odds are that Felicia scouted him out. But all you have to do is let Elias talk and people will realize how full of hot air he is.
Pretty sure it was mentioned that she left her small town with a trucker (sexual stuff for the ride?) and then had a sugardaddy (prostitution) who was paying for her college. Or am I completely confusing this with something else?

Elias is shown as a pathetic narcissist, and he may not get the most desired women in high society, but its still easy enough for a man of his level to get hot young women. Just look what the girls in this game do for much less...
 

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Pretty sure it was mentioned that she left her small town with a trucker (sexual stuff for the ride?) and then had a sugardaddy (prostitution) who was paying for her college. Or am I completely confusing this with something else?

Elias is shown as a pathetic narcissist, and he may not get the most desired women in high society, but its still easy enough for a man of his level to get hot young women. Just look what the girls in this game do for much less...
Wrong on both counts. Yes, she left her small town. But when she's on the wooden horse, she points out she still talks to her mother but doesn't talk much about what she's doing. There's been no sugardaddy but someone she took advantage of (sexual isn't implied) and that's when she goes to the hideaway. What I picked up is that she got someone to help her through college as she joined a frat house but she adjusted to someone that helped her get through.

That exchange is a bit murky. But sugardaddy is kinda strong in this instance. Were they a college rich kid or older? We have no idea. Felicia only points out they helped her.

Okay, Elias can get a hot young one. He does this at his talent agency for example... The one where Felicia sometimes works and Mina is right there as a new up and comer. Betcha ten to one that Mina gets approached and Elias doesn't even know that Mina and Felicia are friends. And maybe he branches out a bit to somewhere else, but that's not a guarantee of success for him and we really have to see how that would go down. But I have increasing doubt at his ability to charm a girl, much less find one that's going to put up with him and how he prattles.
 
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ename144

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Hi ename144!
We might see Abel and Sophia differently, but that let´s us cover all bases. :)

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Don't worry, you express yourself quite well. I just don't agree with your analysis.
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Realistically, we'll have to wait until we have some solid info on Dr. Van Doren's motives to really sort this out.
 

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Not in the way she said it context my guy.. "and then my" as in after the one night stand and unless Ian knew her when he was like 9 and even then its highly unlikely she had a one night stand with a 9/10 year old Lol
I think the one night stand is Ian. The "then" means "and finally (no chronological order)" rather than "after that"
 

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Wrong on both counts. Yes, she left her small town. But when she's on the wooden horse, she points out she still talks to her mother but doesn't talk much about what she's doing. There's been no sugardaddy but someone she took advantage of (sexual isn't implied) and that's when she goes to the hideaway. What I picked up is that she got someone to help her through college as she joined a frat house but she adjusted to someone that helped her get through.

That exchange is a bit murky. But sugardaddy is kinda strong in this instance. Were they a college rich kid or older? We have no idea. Felicia only points out they helped her.

Okay, Elias can get a hot young one. He does this at his talent agency for example... The one where Felicia sometimes works and Mina is right there as a new up and comer. Betcha ten to one that Mina gets approached and Elias doesn't even know that Mina and Felicia are friends. And maybe he branches out a bit to somewhere else, but that's not a guarantee of success for him and we really have to see how that would go down. But I have increasing doubt at his ability to charm a girl, much less find one that's going to put up with him and how he prattles.
Read it again. You are right. Its not as clear as I remembered it. The part about "wielding her power as a beautiful girl when she realized it" sounds not good, as does her mentioning of an online "friend" that paid her rent during college - but I tend to agree with you. It sounds more like she used her looks to take advantage of naive men than straight up prostituting herself - and its probably how TD meant it.

But I like her even less now. A prostitute might be disgusting, but at least honest. Taking advantage of naive men that fell in love with her is rather evil. And the way she talks about her home town makes her sound like an entitled prick.

Reading the whole tantrum about the art school for a second time turns her imo into a total joke. Saving that school is a good deed, and the desire to be able to do something like that in the future is understandable - but it would have changed her life ZERO and its really nothing more than a "new project" of a wealthy woman with no meaning in life. To use this as a justification for what she is doing to her husband is a bad joke - and Edwin and anyone else who fell for her little story is imo at serious risk to get milked to the bone by women. Fap two times before signing any contracts, friends! :KEK:

I think being Elias Ford III. is enough to make many women quite tolerant of his prattling - at least until the marriage without prenup is sealed. lol
 
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Read it again. You are right. Its not as clear as I remembered it. The part about "wielding her power as a beautiful girl when she realized it" sounds not good, as does her mentioning of an online "friend" that paid her rent during college - but I tend to agree with you. It sounds more like she used her looks to take advantage of naive men than straight up prostituting herself - and its probably how TD meant it.
My emphasis - We can't make that connection. College, fraternity, is one thing. But I don't know if the dude is a sugar daddy, a young college kid who helped her out, August, or anyone else.

But I like her even less now. A prostitute might be disgusting, but at least honest. Taking advantage of naive men that fell in love with her is rather evil. And the way she talks about her home town makes her sound like an entitled prick.
I mean, you're putting yourself into that position. Elias isn't naive. He's unaware. And I highly doubt that in a marriage of convenience, love is an issue. Felicia wasn't happy about her home town and that's no defining thing. Hell, Veronica doesn't talk to her father so should that be a ding when Felicia at least talks to mom?

Reading the whole tantrum about the art school for a second time turns her imo into a total joke. Saving that school is a good deed, and the desire to be able to do something like that in the future is understandable - but it would have changed her life ZERO and its really nothing more than a "new project" of a wealthy woman with no meaning in life. To use this as a justification for what she is doing to her husband is a bad joke - and Edwin and anyone else who fell for her little story is imo at serious risk to get milked to the bone by women. Fap two times before signing any contracts, friends! :KEK:

I think being Elias Ford III. is enough to make many women quite tolerant of his prattling - at least until the marriage without prenup is sealed. lol

... Kathleen is RIGHT THERE. And how many people she hurt while doing this is going back to the start of these rich games. I don't see the need for somehow protecting Elias in a marriage where love isn't an issue. These things occur but doesn't detract from the character at all. Yes, she realized something about herself. She can't rely on someone she married for something she wants. This isn't a "justification" or anything else. Felicia learned a lesson through her own painful experience. That's what the story is telling us. Read Charlotte Bronte sometimes and you'll have quite a few tales about rich folk and what they do. All it really is would be a different tale than what we're used to. Nothing more or less.
 

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Great update as I pretty much always expect from this game. Although my initial playtrough was my Mina focus only save and I couldn't experience any of the new scenes I ran through the game again with a new playthrough to see all the new specific branch content.

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However, to me, that's not the worst thing she has done or more accuarately that's not the worst thing she "can" do.
To tell the truth (I apologize to TD and other Felicia fans) she is my second most disliked character of the 6 girls just below Kathleen and the reason is: The threesome with Edwin and Killian.
I will explain, loyalty is a trait I value greatly in people ( my last name means loyal, yes you can consider me a hypocrite for my fav girl being Mina IDC :Kappa:) and to me that scene was a total betrayal from Felicia to her friend and is the only time in the game when the writing is off. The woman is William to sleep with her closest friend boyfriend as she is sleeping in the next room and the only thing that can explain why she did that is her lívido. And, considering the following scenes of Mina and Felicia together I would legitamately consider Felicias action there OOC. The one time in this game when the porn part overtook the story and characters part I believe.
Yeah, that's one of two sore spots I have from the prologue, owed to being written back before our initial release when all the characters and their relationships were more nebulous. Part of me wants to believe it's somewhat in character since Ian is leaning on the whole "I invited you to the club" thing, and she does need a little prompting, but in truth that doesn't fully sit right with me either with how their relationship gets contextualized in later updates.
 

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Yeah, that's one of two sore spots I have from the prologue, owed to being written back before our initial release when all the characters and their relationships were more nebulous. Part of me wants to believe it's somewhat in character since Ian is leaning on the whole "I invited you to the club" thing, and she does need a little prompting, but in truth that doesn't fully sit right with me either with how their relationship gets contextualized in later updates.
What is the other sore spot of the prologue for you?, if you don't mind sharing. I am curious.
 

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Yeah, that's one of two sore spots I have from the prologue, owed to being written back before our initial release when all the characters and their relationships were more nebulous. Part of me wants to believe it's somewhat in character since Ian is leaning on the whole "I invited you to the club" thing, and she does need a little prompting, but in truth that doesn't fully sit right with me either with how their relationship gets contextualized in later updates.
To be fair when you really get down to it it's kinda just me being nitpicky (and I'm also kinda bias since of the potential girls I like Mina the most). You can also justify or "headcanon" that(if the threesome happens) Felicia later interactions with Mina are also fueled by guilt and regret. It is one of the caveats of not having every part of the story planned. But considering how much I've played and that is the only contradiction I found should tell you how seamless all your story is.
 
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