Saphfire

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Hm, seeing the romance tag here i am wondering. Isn´t this vn just a simple fuck em all, don´t give a shit about consequences?
I´ve only tried it once two years or three years ago but i gave up, because except the mindless fucking there was nothing at all.
 

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Hm, seeing the romance tag here i am wondering. Isn´t this vn just a simple fuck em all, don´t give a shit about consequences?
I´ve only tried it once two years or three years ago but i gave up, because except the mindless fucking there was nothing at all.
It kinda...can be...although with good characters and a good story. But there is already one "girlfriend" path in the game, with probably more to follow in which you start a deeper committed relationship with one of the LIs.
 

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Hm, seeing the romance tag here i am wondering. Isn´t this vn just a simple fuck em all, don´t give a shit about consequences?
I´ve only tried it once two years or three years ago but i gave up, because except the mindless fucking there was nothing at all.
Are you in the correct thread? Because while the story is still developing, a simply fuck em all will see to it that the consequences of your choices will be fucking YOU in the end! There are a lot of choices which already had consequences and will have consequnences in the future of the game. Not only the one LI you can choose in the end, but also what will happening with your friends and you.
 

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Hm, seeing the romance tag here i am wondering. Isn´t this vn just a simple fuck em all, don´t give a shit about consequences?
I´ve only tried it once two years or three years ago but i gave up, because except the mindless fucking there was nothing at all.
I suppose it depends on how you qualify romance, and what you want from the tag.

There's a big emphasis on getting to know, connect with, and empathize with the girls. That was there from the beginning, but there's also a couple of big romantic set pieces now, and you can GF up one of the heroines at this point too.

However, it's worth mentioning that the romantic undercurrent of the scenario is contrasted against exhibitions in front of dirty old men, cheating on spouses, and other unavoidable developments that someone who hates NTR enough to proclaim it in their signature will likely find distasteful.
 

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Are you in the correct thread? Because while the story is still developing, a simply fuck em all will see to it that the consequences of your choices will be fucking YOU in the end! There are a lot of choices which already had consequences and will have consequnences in the future of the game. Not only the one LI you can choose in the end, but also what will happening with your friends and you.
Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.
 

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I suppose it depends on how you qualify romance, and what you want from the tag.

There's a big emphasis on getting to know, connect with, and empathize with the girls. That was there from the beginning, but there's also a couple of big romantic set pieces now, and you can GF up one of the heroines at this point too.

However, it's worth mentioning that the romantic undercurrent of the scenario is contrasted against exhibitions in front of dirty old men, cheating on spouses, and other unavoidable developments that someone who hates NTR enough to proclaim it in their signature will likely find distasteful.
I don´t hate ntr, i hate netorare. Since there is not a tag relating to this genre i think i´m save?
NTR can mean differnet aspects: netori (stealing girls), netorase (sharing girls) and netorare/cheating (girl has been taken from you).
 

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Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.
The LIs are the three Carnations (Rosalind, Veronica and Felicia), plus Mina and Hana. There are plenty of other girls the MC may be able to fool around with, but the LIs are the ones where we will spend a lot of time dwelling on what the MC feels about them.
 

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Hm, who are the Love interests?
technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently
 
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technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently
Yeah, but if you don't call dancing under the moonlight or getting a personal portrait done at a secret hideaway romance, then we have differing ideas on that term.

Romance is what you see in romcoms, right?
 

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Yeah, but if you don't call dancing under the moonlight or getting a personal portrait done at a secret hideaway romance, then we have differing ideas on that term.

Romance is what you see in romcoms, right?
oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol
 
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technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently
Is Veronica even just a lesbian? Because she wouldnt fuck with the MC if she was, bi is probably more correct.

Also, how do you get Mina and Felicia scene in the last update?
 

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technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently
"Technically" they are LI. LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever
 

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oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol
So ya think you aren't datin' our sweet goldilocks Mina, huh?

You're disappointing me, brah.

Now go and look her in the eyes and tell her: "you're not my date, we're just foolin' around". Come on, go for it :mad: :mad:

you two-timer :(
 

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Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.
The main LI´s in the game are Hana, Mina, Felicia, Rosi and Veronika. Also in the race, but with slowed foam, are Kath (for the bad boys and as...) and hopefully Dr. Sophia Lundgren (based on that there are changes in behavior depending on our choices).
As an aside, Felicia is more than just a golddigger.
 

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LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever
That would be my use of the term, key word being interest. It's the potential for romance, the tension beneath the surface, and just general lover-like rapport. I mean, how many AVNs are there where you enter into a "committed" relationship before the climax, anyway?

To be fair, I can see having trouble believing the Carnations as love interests, and getting there is something I perceive as the biggest writing challenge rounding the corner into week 4. That's why week 3 has had a major emphasis on the interpersonal stuff.

And, I've said this before, but my idea of romantic ending is neither uniform across all five poster girls or necessarily "white picket fence."
 

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oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol
I argued in the same direction a couple of months ago myself. It basically depends on what you define as "love interest". In "porn visual novel" terms all of the 5 girls are "LIs" as in the MC will (or already has) deeper relationships with them and ends of fucking them through the course of the game.

Now if we would use the definition one would take in real life, only Hana really is an LI so far. But over the last couple of update it becomes ever more obvious that there will also be deeper relationships with the other girls as well. The evening with Veronica was very romantic as well and could very much lead to a deeper relationship with her. The evening with Felicia pretty much cemented the MC at the very least as an affair for her. Mina also seems to get closer and closer to fall for the MC and open up to a more committed relationship in the near future. Rose...kinda remains to be seen.

We'll simply have to see where TD takes the relationships and on what level they might rise towards the end of the game. At some point they might start to exclude each other more and more and the player might have to decide which relationship he sees through to the end.

Of course the way the LIs are written (and as far as I understood a previous post by TD (Edit: he actually just wrote it again)) we won't just see a "and they lived happily ever after" with every girl (not sure, we'll see that with any girl, to be honest). But as things stand right now, there might be paths for a committed long lasting relationship with everyone of the girls.

All of them except Felicia are singles after all and...well the end of the present update could hint towards the demise of Felicia's current relationship status lets just say.
 
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