I agree on both points, but the one that made me click the reply button is your last point. No other game on here that I have played has made me self-reflect and actually *think* about it the way PC does. No other game that I have played has made me care the same way about the characters as people, nothing pas "Sure I wanna see what happens next." The writing in this game is absolutely top-notch. I still can't believe this much quality and Actual Literary Merit is to be found in a frickin' porn game, of all things.I guess you mean Eternum. I haven't seen a scene as well done as the Penelope scene with the car in the studio from the last update in the entire AVN world, even Pale Carnations. Yes the romantic dynamic of the game is vanilla teen mush, but from a technical production point of view, no one in the entire adult game community can hold a candle to Caribdis, except our two beloved devs in here.
However, from a storytelling and writing point of view, absolutely all AVNs are kid's work compared to Pale Carnations. It's even an insult to compare PC to other games in this aspect.
Latest news hereany news on the next release?
Can go along with this.I agree on both points, but the one that made me click the reply button is your last point. No other game on here that I have played has made me self-reflect and actually *think* about it the way PC does. No other game that I have played has made me care the same way about the characters as people, nothing pas "Sure I wanna see what happens next." The writing in this game is absolutely top-notch. I still can't believe this much quality and Actual Literary Merit is to be found in a frickin' porn game, of all things.
We don't know more than you yet. But some differences are planned with exclusive content to the GF pathIs there currently any significative difference between Hana GF and Hana FwB paths, beside the presence of potential cheat points?
The character models are made with Honey Select 1.Which software was used to create this wonderful game? It looks very different to Daz3d.
Question:
Only walkthrough I was able to find ends at week 3, not 4, so I got a possible problem and I wanted to see if anyone knows about it. I'm also not noticing anything about conflicts arising, tho I might not be reading it right my eyes get a little crossed trying to read these things.
As Hana requires exclusivity outside the club if you want to GF her, even though I really like Mina (and she just went through a breakup AND I bent over backwards to make that all happen), I would, with regret, call off the casual thing with Mina in order to go serious with Hana, because: HANA. I mean, ffs, YEAH, HANA (plus, Hana's f'd up emotional situation w/her mom really calls to me to support her, and that "who's yer daddy" date with her was the BEST).
That said, I already pre-agreed to the Felicia Sugar Mama tryout date which hasn't happened yet (including $5,000 ahead of time sent to Rosalind to help her out). in real life, unless you want to be a scumbag and lie about it, you tell the new serious partner "hey I do have one date that's already arranged including a pretty expensive financial investment in it but after that I'm clean slate" and unless the new partner is really petty, they generally tend to agree: because it was something already in motion, almost everyone understands that.
Unfortunately the game doesn't seem to consider this even if you've already set that up (wasn't mentioned) so does it get held against you later as infidelity if you date Felicia that one time (and probably go through with fully boning her, because obviously Felicia's going to want you to go there, since she's flatly paying you for your sex, along with your emotional investment in her).
Quick aside: Now, I'm definitely still going to do at least one playthrough where he just stays f*** buddies with Hana because Mina is still nice, and clearly intended to rebound with the MC, so would be fragile (and we don't need to make her more fragile when Felicia's husband is apparently the parasite in charge of Mina's placement agency), and honestly Felicia is just heartbreakingly addictive and I can see the MC thinking that they can use the Sugar Mama route to maybe still get kids that way someday if she wins club membership and gets her power that way (and so maybe finally dumps Elias): it's a way of having her feel she has power over the situation so she'd be more likely to keep the MC with her not have her mentally write him off in an internal panic over not still chasing for the "10 million in his back pocket" gold ring.
That alt route aside though, does going through with the Felicia date screw up the Hana girlfriend route?
Thanks for any help.
TY!As has been stated multiple times now we don't know the effects of the Hana GF route yet. You still have a bit of content to get through will will shed some light on a few of your concerns/questions when you finish the Felicia date. As of now the Gf route is an unknown other than maybe some exclusive renders/scenes for that route. That choice is a good spot for a save point but I think most went FWB route at least until we find out more about the GF route.
For reasons beyond the ken of mortal man, the default search is ordered by neither date nor relevance. Fortunately it is possible to change that default if you know to go digging around in the settings:TY!
I've tried searches but this site's search engine is really freaky and will send you all over the place except the very place you want to look.
TY again!
Yeah, the issue of fidelity is why I brought up that in a real life circumstance if you're promising someone monogamy but you have an already promised upcoming date with someone, it is pretty common to just let the new partner know you already committed to go on those dates (especially if they happen to have had financial investments in them so they can't be easily backed out of). Admittedly, the "financial investment" with Felicia is that **he's whoring out to her** and already gave the money to Rosalind. LOL!For reasons beyond the ken of mortal man, the default search is ordered by neither date nor relevance. Fortunately it is possible to change that default if you know to go digging around in the settings:
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As far as the Hana GF route, as most people have said, we don't know anything yet for sure, but it seems very unwise to promise her fidelity if you aren't going to live up to that promise. Better to pick the fuck buddies route in that case: you might miss a scene or two, but I very much doubt you'll be starved for Hana content even so.
I will note, however, that the GF route has already had a minor effect on the game: it gives the MC a way to turn down opportunities with the other LIs if you've already started on their path. Granted, that's an ability that mostly serves to make staying faithful to Hana *possible* and most people would rather avoid using it, but it is technically a unique option you lose by staying casual - or just focusing on a different LI. Sigh.
you are a hero for me.For reasons beyond the ken of mortal man, the default search is ordered by neither date nor relevance. Fortunately it is possible to change that default if you know to go digging around in the settings:
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As far as the Hana GF route, as most people have said, we don't know anything yet for sure, but it seems very unwise to promise her fidelity if you aren't going to live up to that promise. Better to pick the fuck buddies route in that case: you might miss a scene or two, but I very much doubt you'll be starved for Hana content even so.
I will note, however, that the GF route has already had a minor effect on the game: it gives the MC a way to turn down opportunities with the other LIs if you've already started on their path. Granted, that's an ability that mostly serves to make staying faithful to Hana *possible* and most people would rather avoid using it, but it is technically a unique option you lose by staying casual - or just focusing on a different LI. Sigh.
I feel like not being able to talk about Mina (and the carnations) to Hana at that point is a big stain in an overall pretty consistant story with very consistant characters. That was so frustrating to read this "my two only choices are to either stop things with Mina or lie to Hana". Uh, hello Mutt & Jeff, I'd like to actually tell Hana about it if possible. Preferably now instead of waiting for her to discover it 10 episodes from now and be all dramatic about it. Why not have a more extended conversation where we could have asked Hana if doing things with the Carnation even "outside" the club was okay ? Maybe try to make her accept at least the Carnations and maybe say something about Mina (even without talking about the 'promise' per se). Make us promise "no other girls" or even maybe to stop things with the carnations after the last exhibitions or something I don't know. Added conditions, make things clear between Hana and MC. And if Hana can't accept it, then she choses on her own to stay fuckbuddies anyway.Yeah, the issue of fidelity is why I brought up that in a real life circumstance if you're promising someone monogamy but you have an already promised upcoming date with someone, it is pretty common to just let the new partner know you already committed to go on those dates (especially if they happen to have had financial investments in them so they can't be easily backed out of). Admittedly, the "financial investment" with Felicia is that **he's whoring out to her** and already gave the money to Rosalind. LOL!
My main line of thinking about the momentum of that night is: if he's already so moved by Hana's agonizing plight w/her mom that he's promising to always be there for her to help her cope, and he and Hana quite possibly do have **the most in common with each other** in several areas, out of all the other romances, *AND* he was coming off having an all-time *GREAT* date with her, he might just feel: "Dammit! Let's just go for broke!"
That said, he's pretty good at being aloofly logical, and she *IS* going to have to watch him fvck and humiliate other girls right in front of her, so it might be reasonable that they might recognize it would be pretty tough for them to maintain emotional balance. Ofc, that is certainly why she would be so insistent upon fidelity outside the club.
That said, the Fvckbuddy option could make sense if he was factoring that Hana *specifically* said **she'd been desperately needing to get utterly destroyed by him since "last night"**, which was the exhibition night. So she seemingly got uncontrollably hot *specifically* thinking abt him completely wrecking Felicia and Rose into senseless puddles, and especially in how he outright railed Rose center stage, dick dangled out on display before Hana, and then plowed into Rose again and again, right in front of Hana. So he might subconsciously be factoring Hana's actually subconsciously totally okay with it and she might even get off on fantasizing being in the other girls' places with him.
I just feel if he's already investing in her and making all these emotional support moves towards her he might go to girlfriend option because he was just getting so into her (and not just literally). Besides... Now he's "her daddy", so that's gotta count for something, right?
The choice to keep it casual is the choice you're looking for.I feel like not being able to talk about Mina (and the carnations) to Hana at that point is a big stain in an overall pretty consistant story with very consistant characters. That was so frustrating to read this "my two only choices are to either stop things with Mina or lie to Hana". Uh, hello Mutt & Jeff, I'd like to actually tell Hana about it if possible. Preferably now instead of waiting for her to discover it 10 episodes from now and be all dramatic about it. Why not have a more extended conversation where we could have asked Hana if doing things with the Carnation even "outside" the club was okay ? Maybe try to make her accept at least the Carnations and maybe say something about Mina (even without talking about the 'promise' per se). Make us promise "no other girls" or even maybe to stop things with the carnations after the last exhibitions or something I don't know. Added conditions, make things clear between Hana and MC. And if Hana can't accept it, then she choses on her own to stay fuckbuddies anyway.
Yeah, but you can't commit to both Hanna and Mina at the same time, which is fine and realistic but that's what harem lovers want.The choice to keep it casual is the choice you're looking for.
Sure, Edwin telling Hana they should give monogamy a college try could come with a "but", but think about how that sounds. The whole point of that choice is commitment. Edwin trying to add hall pass clauses to his new relationship not only hinders the dramatic impetus of the moment, but has a dead end conclusion when you weigh what is being said within the scene about her expectations.
There isn't a dramatic contrivance you're being railroaded into. What you get is what's on the tin; Edwin promises commitment and can optionally follow through with it, and he may get away with some stuff and not others, or he goes the fuck buddies path and enjoys his cake.
If you like both Hana and Mina, all I will say is players won't be disappointed in the long run. The ground work started with Edwin's birthday party, and most recently, continued with the last update -- and just because you're committed to Hana, and are faithful to her, won't necessarily exclude scenes with that pairing in the future.
TD already addressed this but I think it's worth berating the point because you already *had* that conversation with Hana! She specifically said doing things with girls outside the Club was NOT okay if you want to be her formal boyfriend. That's why there are only two choices. It's not a false dichotomy because Hana ruled out the option for a formal, open relationship.I feel like not being able to talk about Mina (and the carnations) to Hana at that point is a big stain in an overall pretty consistant story with very consistant characters. That was so frustrating to read this "my two only choices are to either stop things with Mina or lie to Hana". Uh, hello Mutt & Jeff, I'd like to actually tell Hana about it if possible. Preferably now instead of waiting for her to discover it 10 episodes from now and be all dramatic about it. Why not have a more extended conversation where we could have asked Hana if doing things with the Carnation even "outside" the club was okay ? Maybe try to make her accept at least the Carnations and maybe say something about Mina (even without talking about the 'promise' per se). Make us promise "no other girls" or even maybe to stop things with the carnations after the last exhibitions or something I don't know. Added conditions, make things clear between Hana and MC. And if Hana can't accept it, then she choses on her own to stay fuckbuddies anyway.
It would even be interesting that Hana accepts it, but still has mixed feelings about it when spending time with Mina or with the carnations for example. Anything but that fake ass illusion of having only these two choices of lying or staying loyal to the T.
Wednesday the 06/17 is the last day of content so far.Hey, am I missing something, I get kicked out in week 3. But the version clearly states Ch4Up4, unless Ch4!=week4?