VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[dolfe67]

So if you choose HanaGF, does Mina just leave the story or what? She’s the only one with no connection to the club, and I can’t really see any plotlines for her beyond maybe something with Felicia where she could have a role in the story.

Why only HanaGF? You can still cheat on her. But if you don't romance Mina (for whatever reason) then she appears less in the story...

 

[ffive]

So if you choose HanaGF, does Mina just leave the story or what?

Why would Mina's presence depend on whether MC has sex with her? She is friends with Felicia (and a prominent talent in Felicia's husband's agency) Hana, potentially Edwin and maybe Ian to some extent. She also potentially has Veronica as her personal trainer, and at the current end of the game she also knows Rose.

Maybe let's not focus so much on MC's dick, neither he nor his appendage are the center of this universe.

 

[Heabob]

Does the MC ever get a chance to become Mina's boyfriend?
Maybe in the future even? (I hope)

I like Hanna but don't care for her tatts too much.
Kinda ruins her outer beauty for me IMO.
Don't really want to be BF/GF with Hanna ATM so I picked Fuckbuddies for now.

If I wanted to commit with someone it would be Mina as my first choice.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Why only HanaGF? You can still cheat on her. But if you don't romance Mina (for whatever reason) then she appears less in the story...

Yeah, I tried to go with the HanaGf route but backed down. It felt too fast. I hope we get another chance later down the line to choose the girlfriend option again.

Why would Mina's presence depend on whether MC has sex with her? She is friends with Felicia (and a prominent talent in Felicia's husband's agency) Hana, potentially Edwin and maybe Ian to some extent. She also potentially has Veronica as her personal trainer, and at the current end of the game she also knows Rose.

Maybe let's not focus so much on MC's dick, neither he nor his appendage are the center of this universe.

Maybe it's because we see most of the story from the MC’s pov? Or maybe because most of the story takes place in or around the club? Either way, most of what you said makes her feel like a side character at best.

 

[Maccabbee]

Why would Mina's presence depend on whether MC has sex with her? She is friends with Felicia (and a prominent talent in Felicia's husband's agency) Hana, potentially Edwin and maybe Ian to some extent. She also potentially has Veronica as her personal trainer, and at the current end of the game she also knows Rose.

Maybe let's not focus so much on MC's dick, neither he nor his appendage are the center of this universe.

I agree with everything until the last line. My MC's Magic Dick is definitely the center of the universe. Even Kath knows it now.

 

[ffive]

Maybe it's because we see most of the story from the MC’s pov? Or maybe because most of the story takes place in or around the club? Either way, most of what you said makes her feel like a side character at best.

While it's true we watch the story through MC's eyes it doesn't mean the presence of characters should be determined by whether they are connected to MC, and vacate the premises if MC chooses to fuck someone else. If nothing else, by being a relative outsider Mina provides perspective/role to the story the other characters lack, given they're in the thick of it.

Also, it shouldn't have to be said, but just because Edwin chooses to fuck another girl doesn't mean he can't be friends with Mina and have regular, close interactions with her. Just ones that don't revolve around sex. Much like you can have friendship path with the other characters in the story.

Yeah, I tried to go with the HanaGf route but backed down. It felt too fast. I hope we get another chance later down the line to choose the girlfriend option again.

The story is only going to last another in-game week, after the exhibition in the next update. If you feel now it's too soon, it's hardly going to be less too soon a week later.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Also, it shouldn't have to be said, but just because Edwin chooses to fuck another girl doesn't mean he can't be friends with Mina and have regular, close interactions with her. Just ones that don't revolve around sex. Much like you can have friendship path with the other characters in the story.

And that’s exactly what I was asking.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

The story is only going to last another in-game week, after the exhibition in the next update. If you feel now it's too soon, it's hardly going to be less too soon a week later.

I meant too soon plot wise, not time wise in terms of weeks. Lmao wtf.

 

[ffive]

I meant too soon plot wise, not time wise in terms of weeks. Lmao wtf.

Why would it be a "wtf"? Edwin and Hana have known each other for literally a couple of weeks, and know very little about what sort of people the other person is. It'd be perfectly sensible to hold off from going all "Let's be boyfriend and girlfriend!" with so little between them. And an extra week isn't going to do much to alleviate that, if that's the basis for the decision.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Why would it be a "wtf"? Edwin and Hana have known each other for literally a couple of weeks, and know very little about what sort of people the other person is. It'd be perfectly sensible to hold off from going all "Let's be boyfriend and girlfriend!" with so little between them. And an extra week isn't going to do much to alleviate that, if that's the basis for the decision.

If it were a normal extra week, maybe. But if it’s an extra week of working in a club like that, that’s a different story. I just felt the MC should’ve been given more time to choose one girl, and not get lumped in with Hana so soon after just one date and a fuck. But there are people who wanted that, so it’s okay. Again, that’s why I said I hope we get the option to choose again in the future.

 

[TD1900]

And that’s exactly what I was asking.

Even if you break it off with her, she still pops up in the story. She's important for both Ian and Hana's character development.

 

[link18]

In my mind its whether Edwin and Hana are meant to be together ( how much stuff they got in common and their sexual tension ) or they are not so a week or two doesn't matter as cheesy as it may sound that's kinda love at first sight type of thing

 

[Ungawa]

It's just that I started looking at it from the wrong angle. I've played my fair share of crappy NTR AVNs and read doujins with way worse stuff than this (I still wouldn’t call myself a fan thou). And it’s not like I’ve never been to a brothel in real life (not this kind obviously lol).

What I mean by starting on the wrong foot is that I had been leaning heavily into the romance genre lately with all the media I was consuming, like VNs/books/manga/anime. Just a phase, i guess. So when I started this, I think I self inserted pretty hard, which obviously doesn’t match the tone or theme here. But once I got that sorted out and just approached it as a story, and since you guys vouched for it being a damn good one, I obviously couldn’t quit.

Now I’m actually enjoying it and appreciating the characters a lot more.

Thanks for your reply man. I’ll keep posting my idle thoughts while playing because that’s part of the fun for me, even if I know some people here find it weird for some reason.

To be fair and honest, the biggest thing that resonated with me was the film noir aspect to it all. MC being morally grey, having a choice between light and dark, and debauchery in the sordid underbelly are things I love from old movies like Casablanca or even Dick Tracy to cyberpunk movies such as Max Headroom or Blade Runner.

Romance is still a great genre, no question. But PC is asking you to decide what type of person Edwin is going to be and I think that, with the choices inside that give strong impact, are very interesting to engage.

 

[se20299]

Despite being a western VN, PC has the flair, cinematography and the eroticism of Japanese VNs, and Japanese media in general. Most AVNs on here are inspired by typical western porn/shows, but PC is like a love letter to fans of the Japanese VNs but with more western sensibilities.

Very few VNs on here have the style and drama that PC has. TD and GIL clearly have a strong artistic direction, and the game has maintained the same focus and tone for the 5 years it's been under development without losing or changing much, except the art getting exponentially better with time.

The noir elements remind me heavily of the older Japanese mystery VNs, such as Yu-No, Higurashi and even Cartagra. PC definitely has a very unique flavor that few other games on here can match.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

The writers had no reason to make that date with Ronnie so good. The chemistry was off the charts. Honestly, there was more chemistry than with the girls his own age, like Hana and Mina.

 

[prpa]

The writers had no reason to make that date with Ronnie so good. The chemistry was off the charts. Honestly, there was more chemistry than with the girls his own age, like Hana and Mina.

TD is the writer, in case you didn't know. I don't need to repeat which date I think is the best, but honestly, I like then all and they're all great. Like I mentioned in a previous post, this game handles dates and romantic moments better than 99% of games that focus solely on romance. I'd love to see them make a game entirely centered on romance after this one. Then again, maybe not, perhaps the romance scenes in this game feel so powerful because they're contrasted with the darker moments.

 

[Darreau91]

TD is the writer, in case you didn't know. I don't need to repeat which date I think is the best, but honestly, I like then all and they're all great. Like I mentioned in a previous post, this game handles dates and romantic moments better than 99% of games that focus solely on romance. I'd love to see them make a game entirely centered on romance after this one. Then again, maybe not, perhaps the romance scenes in this game feel so powerful because they're contrasted with the darker moments.

Also the sex dialogue puts the bow on the package. Adds a layer of authenticity to everything when its written like actual sex and not the usual: " Your cock is so big and fills me up to my cervix. OOOOHHH SHHHIIIITTT!!!." Squirt squirt. After 2 thrusts and 1 minute of foreplay.

 

[TD1900]

Also the sex dialogue puts the bow on the package.

The dialogue:

 

[Julius Kingsley]

The dialogue:

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I prefer "Haaat" lol

 

[Julius Kingsley]

TD is the writer, in case you didn't know. I don't need to repeat which date I think is the best, but honestly, I like then all and they're all great. Like I mentioned in a previous post, this game handles dates and romantic moments better than 99% of games that focus solely on romance. I'd love to see them make a game entirely centered on romance after this one. Then again, maybe not, perhaps the romance scenes in this game feel so powerful because they're contrasted with the darker moments.

I’d love to see a pure mafia game from these devs. That would be peak.