Then there’s Elias himself. I used to think the reason he refused Felicia’s request about the art school was to remind her of the dynamic in their relationship. But now that we’ve gotten a taste of his character — a glimpse of who he truly is — it doesn’t fit that interpretation either.
I'd love to see an alternative scenario in which Edwin comes to the realization that Felicia would have succeeded in making Elias change his mind had she really wanted to make her dream of an art school happening. And that the only reason she didn't press the issue hard enough is the fact that it overlapped with her actual goal: to use position in the club to have him disappear.
Could be fun to have Chuck and Kathleen elaborate how transparent her plan was and that they're letting her off easy by taking the secret to their grave.
But that wouldn't make any sense since she would get zero money anyway. She would have no motive for that. There's no love between them any more but there's no hate either. Your alternate timeline would have to change some of the facts we know first before it would be plausible.
Another such fact is that Felicia did EVERYTHING in her power to make Elias change his mind and he still wouldn't budge.
Felicia said:
"I pleaded with Elias to save it. I did something I promised myself I'd never do after leaving home: I begged for something. I laid myself bare to the prick."
"I explained to him how important that school was to me, how the woman who ran it impacted my life, and what it would mean for future boys and girls who didn't have much..."
"I put myself genuinely out there and he didn't give a good goddamn! The "PR of saving a community arts academy in a shitty town" simply wasn't worth it!"
In other words it was not possible for her to convince Elias to save the school and Edwin knows it because Felicia told him (in the scenario where Edwin knows about art school).
They've been married for 8 years and she has no illusions that after some time she will be replaced by a newer model. I think it's one of the reasons she took the risk, she knows the clock is ticking and sooner or later she would be left with almost nothing anyway.
Hence I think that when the dust settles Felicia will overcome her fear/shame/whatever has caused her to faint and perform as well as if Elias wasn't there. In fact this might give her unfair advantage because her winning this would be more beneficial to patreons than some whores with debts (just like Allison winning was more advantageous than some random whore).
As someone who started the game for Felicia and has played for Felicia this entire time as my only considered personal true route (though I have other saves to check out some other parts of the story), this update has been one hell of a rollercoaster...
Damn, I can't wait for the next part of the update! I need to help my girl get back up on her feet and win!
...Or something. I don't know any longer what I'm supposed to do here...
Yeah, Felicia is my favourite too and I completely agree that she looks just adorable here. I wanted her to win from the start but learning about the art school made me convinced even more, especially this part:
Felicia:"I could crack open a thesaurus and put it a million different ways, but I'll never be able to articulate just how much that place truly meant to a poor little girl whose mother could only afford colored pencils for her 8th birthday."
Can i just mention i adore how this game has better writing even in the script parts, than most porn games have in their front end exposed to the reader.
the fix is to edit the 00action_data.rpy file the mod is not the problem there is an error in the rpy file.
open it in notepad++ or similar editor. just after line 157 is the error. you need to add the underscore before sys so it reads _sys and save the file.
the problem is in the Renpy that is bundled with the game. The mod just exposes it.
Figured I'd give this a go but it seems I did something wrong. Only one "sys" in the whole file so it was easy to find plus it's on line 157. I did try it with a double underscore instead of a single (just to try it) but got the same error.
00action_data.rpy (before change)
00action_data.rpy (after change)
Load up the AVN, load a save, go into URM and search for a variable. Still errors out but with new error:
I very much appreciate your efforts to help. Not expecting you to burn up time trying to troubleshoot further but I did want to provide you the results. Thanks again and cheers!
Can i just mention i adore how this game has better writing even in the script parts, than most porn games have in their front end exposed to the reader.
Added more mod options, based on routes picked example doing both Hana and Mina visit (only available if you stay with Mina at the rockshow and kissed her and didn't dance on stage)
Added option to see all final girls scene in the freeroam part 3 (must enable cheat, and pick the girl you want the game to register as your choice first)
Fixed bugs and typos on all past script files
updated mode ui to split girls/guys as character list getting larger.
Gah, a little frustrating that only Edwin who is on Felicia's romance path gets option to give her "sort of a warning" before the show. You would think that maxed out friendship could also account for something. ._.
Also, game should be probably checking variable bounds at this point, or it ends up a bit silly:
Kat's persuasiveness literally broke Hana's mind there.
Also also, Lucy got a rotten hand this update, having her sex scene mutually exclusive with both Felicia *and* Hana hangouts.
And as final point, Turret help me but Sophia was too cute for her own good.
How do I get both Hana and Mina ? What are the conditions ? Willing to do new save. Previous update (was it ?) There supposed to be a scene with both of them, but I didnt get. Am following HanaGF route and having fun with every gal.
Happy Chapter 4 Update 6 everyone! I've played through a solid chunk of the game now (though it's sufficiently varied that I don't I've seen everything), so it's time to figure out how I feel about it. I think on a narrative level, it's extremely good. There are a lot of moving parts here, but they fit together well and more importantly they come together to sell a pivotal moment of the story in unmistakable style. And as I all to often fail to mention, the art is fantastic, always highlighting the feelings of the various characters and finding clever ways to frame the action.
However, as good as the story and character work is, I do feel like the gameplay lets it down a bit because for all the choices available to us, the update is unavoidably about the cruel hedonism that is the Carnation Club. That's not to say there are no moments of levity or sincere tenderness; there are, and some of them are quite good. But those moments are short, isolated, and all too often restricted to very specific paths. Most importantly, though, almost none of those moments do anything to second guess Kathleen's attitude in her moment of triumph, and that definitely stings.
The end result is a good update that I didn't enjoy playing. Of course, given my laughably vanilla tastes I think it's fair to say I was never going to find this update fun. But even in comparison to previous Exhibitions, it didn't feel like my actions made much difference this time, at least not within the Exhibition. I don't know if that's a result of splitting the Exhibition into two parts or me wanting to get the "belly of the whale" portion over as soon as possible - or maybe I've been misreading where the story was going the whole time. We'll have to see what happens next. For now, I'd say I liked the update, but not as much as I was hoping.
So much for the generalities, let's get down to brass tacks.
Okay, I think that does it for this update. Hopefully we'll be back again before too long to wrap up Chapter 4.
tl;dr A good update with lots of plot progression and plenty of lewd content, but not a lot of variety for those who don't like the Club's brand of entertainment
How do I get both Hana and Mina ? What are the conditions ? Willing to do new save. Previous update (was it ?) There supposed to be a scene with both of them, but I didnt get. Am following HanaGF route and having fun with every gal.
Depends on what you mean by "get". Up until now, you can be on the GF route and still mess around with anyone and everyone, Mina included. But if you are referring to a future H+M threesome/throuple, that requires choosing fuckbuddies instead of BF/GF. Plus encouraging Mina's bi tendencies.
The scene you are (probably) thinking of happens after the concert, if you are not on GF route and have concentrated on Mina (and Hana) during the concert. Check walkthrough for details.
It could be as simple as a combination of doing something easy that effectively curbs her a favor with "middle manager" she can cash in later, and actually enjoying some drugs herself?
Depends on what you mean by "get". Up until now, you can be on the GF route and still mess around with anyone and everyone, Mina included. But if you are referring to a future H+M threesome/throuple, that requires choosing fuckbuddies instead of BF/GF. Plus encouraging Mina's bi tendencies.
The scene you are (probably) thinking of happens after the concert, if you are not on GF route and have concentrated on Mina (and Hana) during the concert. Check walkthrough for details.
Happy Chapter 4 Update 6 everyone! I've played through a solid chunk of the game now (though it's sufficiently varied that I don't I've seen everything), so it's time to figure out how I feel about it. I think on a narrative level, it's extremely good. There are a lot of moving parts here, but they fit together well and more importantly they come together to sell a pivotal moment of the story in unmistakable style. And as I all to often fail to mention, the art is fantastic, always highlighting the feelings of the various characters and finding clever ways to frame the action.
However, as good as the story and character work is, I do feel like the gameplay lets it down a bit because for all the choices available to us, the update is unavoidably about the cruel hedonism that is the Carnation Club. That's not to say there are no moments of levity or sincere tenderness; there are, and some of them are quite good. But those moments are short, isolated, and all too often restricted to very specific paths. Most importantly, though, almost none of those moments do anything to second guess Kathleen's attitude in her moment of triumph, and that definitely stings.
The end result is a good update that I didn't enjoy playing. Of course, given my laughably vanilla tastes I think it's fair to say I was never going to find this update fun. But even in comparison to previous Exhibitions, it didn't feel like my actions made much difference this time, at least not within the Exhibition. I don't know if that's a result of splitting the Exhibition into two parts or me wanting to get the "belly of the whale" portion over as soon as possible - or maybe I've been misreading where the story was going the whole time. We'll have to see what happens next. For now, I'd say I liked the update, but not as much as I was hoping.
So much for the generalities, let's get down to brass tacks.
Okay, I think that does it for this update. Hopefully we'll be back again before too long to wrap up Chapter 4.
tl;dr A good update with lots of plot progression and plenty of lewd content, but not a lot of variety for those who don't like the Club's brand of entertainment
I'll need to reread it a couple of times, but as always, thanks for taking the ridiculous amount of time and effort to share your thoughts. It's always a joy and your (and everyone else's) write ups always get us excited to break into the next update.
Mina's route starts as fuckbuddies and stays this way if Edwin doesn't choose actions to make it something closer and more exclusive.
Your mistake was to opt for Hana as girlfriend and expect a girl who has just broke up with her cheating boyfriend to be somehow okay as a willing accessory for another guy to cheat on his girlfriend.
Really good tease with that ending for Felicia excited to the exhibition update in the future.
Does someone know the requirements for the last 2 "Memories" scenes for Kathleen? One says that it will happen through normal advancement of the story but it never happened for me and the last one says to do something stupid.
