VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Discrepancy]

as I understand it: When there are several crabs in a bucket there is no need for a lid to keep them in. Every time a crab gets close to the top the other crabs will drag them back down.

This will be interesting.

Kat will probably try to make the carnations go against each other.
And also this is probably related: https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-6-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-18535352

 

[Darreau91]

I hope the crabs come with that THICC energy to keep the hunger for competition alive in the carnations while doing the exhibition.

 

[Khan merry]

Crabs-in-a-bucket.

It seems the next update will feature the real conflict between the carnations. Will Edwin’s attempt to bring harmony end in vain?

 

[sourya54]

PC Compressed version link??? anyone have it????

 

[dolfe67]

PC Compressed version link??? anyone have it????

yes!!! someone have it!!!!

 

[harsha_26]

Edwin
Crabs in a bucket? Never heard of that.

Warren
Easy. There can only be one king crab. It's a denial thing. Each of them want to cum buckets but whoever gets off first gets the crown.

Edwin
Crabs do that?

Warren
All they do is pinch each other all day. Then they lay eggs and die.

Edwin
How does that work within the contest?

Warren
Listen, don't ask so many questions. When Kathleen asks you to serve lobster you'll better have the butter ready. Because if she gets pissed, I'll be pissed and then we're both going to have a problem. Understood?

Edwin
I think I do.

No, I don't think I understand that. I only understood that there is a bucket and I will use that bucket to hit warren and Kat.

 

[Turret]

No, I don't think I understand that. I only understood that there is a bucket and I will use that bucket to hit warren and Kat.

I know why you want to hit them. I personally would prefer to hit Kath the utmost, since Warren is a mercenary, he can be bought off, there is no such thing with Kathleen.
But when it comes to buckets and crabs, let us just say that there is a possibility for sadists to use it. Crabs are rather in-offensive animals, most of the time. Set the Carnations into a tank/"bucket" filled with crabs, that is nothing quite bad. But if someone does something that frightens the crabs, then it becomes "interesting".
Given that esp. Kath is a sadist, such a development could be possible. But I think the crab analogy in the game will be mostly that Kath is setting our 3 Carnations against each other no matter what. And it will be our decisions, how that will end.

 

[harsha_26]

I know why you want to hit them. I personally would prefer to hit Kath the utmost, since Warren is a mercenary, he can be bought off, there is no such thing with Kathleen.
But when it comes to buckets and crabs, let us just say that there is a possibility for sadists to use it. Crabs are rather in-offensive animals, most of the time. Set the Carnations into a tank/"bucket" filled with crabs, that is nothing quite bad. But if someone does something that frightens the crabs, then it becomes "interesting".
Given that esp. Kath is a sadist, such a development could be possible. But I think the crab analogy in the game will be mostly that Kath is setting our 3 Carnations against each other no matter what. And it will be our decisions, how that will end.

I understand what is meant by that anology. I don't know why you are explaining me. That comment made by me is for warren and kath in the negative sense. Not for carnations. Do you want to hit them or any analogy you have to beat them.. Then please share. Im not expecting another praising comment for kath or warren.

 

[Turret]

I understand what is meant by that anology. I don't know why you are explaining me. That comment made by me is for warren and kath in the negative sense. Not for carnations. Do you want to hit them or any analogy you have to beat them.. Then please share. Im not expecting another praising comment for kath or warren.

Hmmm? What are you talking about? I never praised Kath or Warren in my post!

 

[HDussen]

My best guess on the crab thing is that it is a sneaky and clever way of getting around the issue of the player stacking the deck in favour of (and/or against) any particular Carnation.

Up until now, we have had the freedom to decide both winner and loser of each exhibition. Keep that up for a third week, and we could easily have a situation with Felicia winning three in a row and Veronica losing three in a row (to rank them alphabetically). Making it a tad difficult to construct a believable story where we are going into week four with everything still to play for.

But by dedicating week three to pitting two against whoever is in the lead at any moment, uncertainty (in week four) becomes almost certain. Even if Edwin manages to nudge things a bit in one direction or other, 2v1 should be too much of an obstacle to completely overcome.

 

[harsha_26]

Suggestion to players who haven't played this update yet: If you have a weak heart, please hold this update and play the full chapter on next release. I'm not saying you will feel better, but atleast you will feel better than this update.

 

[FRVN]

My best guess on the crab thing is that it is a sneaky and clever way of getting around the issue of the player stacking the deck in favour of (and/or against) any particular Carnation.

Up until now, we have had the freedom to decide both winner and loser of each exhibition. Keep that up for a third week, and we could easily have a situation with Felicia winning three in a row and Veronica losing three in a row (to rank them alphabetically). Making it a tad difficult to construct a believable story where we are going into week four with everything still to play for.

But by dedicating week three to pitting two against whoever is in the lead at any moment, uncertainty (in week four) becomes almost certain. Even if Edwin manages to nudge things a bit in one direction or other, 2v1 should be too much of an obstacle to completely overcome.

Maybe I misunderstood something, but my understanding is that there is no "winner" of the first exhibition, as it was not designed to single out one winner and two losers, but rather to put them through a gauntlet where they had to succeed in order not to lose, and all three succeeded. Therefore, there is no situation where a winner could be determined before the final exhibition in week 4.

 

[Discrepancy]

Maybe I misunderstood something, but my understanding is that there is no "winner" of the first exhibition, as it was not designed to single out one winner and two losers, but rather to put them through a gauntlet where they had to succeed in order not to lose, and all three succeeded. Therefore, there is no situation where a winner could be determined before the final exhibition in week 4.

Yeah, the first exhibition the one that won the first part just didn't had to continue for the day, if she won the full day why would the others had to compete for the rest of the day right?

 

[Draim]

Suggestion to players who haven't played this update yet: If you have a weak heart, please hold this update and play the full chapter on next release. I'm not saying you will feel better, but atleast you will feel better than this update.

SKIP UPDATE UNTIL MC DON'T FUCK HER OWN MOTHER . BE A MEN, BE A HARD IN OWN FAITH AND DECISION.

 

[Turret]

Maybe I misunderstood something, but my understanding is that there is no "winner" of the first exhibition, as it was not designed to single out one winner and two losers, but rather to put them through a gauntlet where they had to succeed in order not to lose, and all three succeeded. Therefore, there is no situation where a winner could be determined before the final exhibition in week 4.

Yeah, the first exhibition the one that won the first part just didn't had to continue for the day, if she won the full day why would the others had to compete for the rest of the day right?

Hi guys!
There is the possibilty of a winner after this exhibition week, at least in theory. The win in week 1 is a full win! If e.g. Felicia won in the first week, she has one point for that win. That the other two had to compete further was simply for the guests and Kath´s sadism in special.
If there is a winner in week 2, she gets a(nother) point. Only if there is a draw in week 2, nobody scores a point for that week. Depending on what you did, it is possible that one Carnation has 2 points already. We can rest assured that in such a case Kath will move heaven and hell to prevent a "premature" win.

 

[Discrepancy]

Hi guys!
There is the possibilty of a winner after this exhibition week, at least in theory. The win in week 1 is a full win! If e.g. Felicia won in the first week, she has one point for that win. That the other two had to compete further was simply for the guests and Kath´s sadism in special.
If there is a winner in week 2, she gets a(nother) point. Only if there is a draw in week 2, nobody scores a point for that week. Depending on what you did, it is possible that one Carnation has 2 points already. We can rest assured that in such a case Kath will move heaven and hell to prevent a "premature" win.

Is that stated in the game or you just assuming? Not saying you're wrong but I replayed the game a few weeks ago and I didn't get that impression.

 

[FRVN]

Hi guys!
There is the possibilty of a winner after this exhibition week, at least in theory. The win in week 1 is a full win! If e.g. Felicia won in the first week, she has one point for that win. That the other two had to compete further was simply for the guests and Kath´s sadism in special.
If there is a winner in week 2, she gets a(nother) point. Only if there is a draw in week 2, nobody scores a point for that week. Depending on what you did, it is possible that one Carnation has 2 points already. We can rest assured that in such a case Kath will move heaven and hell to prevent a "premature" win.

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The game certainly seems to point to there being no sole winner for the first exhibition.

 

[Turret]

Is that stated in the game or you just assuming? Not saying you're wrong but I replayed the game a few weeks ago and I didn't get that impression.

Hi!
The winner of the first round is the overall winner of the week.

Kath spells it out: Winner of the first game has ALSO the additional benefit of sitting out the rest of the night. A point and bypassing the rest of the night´s "games".


When making the screenshots, I made this one just for our resident butt lovers

The game certainly seems to point to there being no sole winner for the first exhibition.

The thing is in your example Veronica, can catch up on the money side, if she wins the punishment game. But that hinges on your participation! If you follow Hana, the Carnation in the punishment game will ALWAYS loose, that you can see in the profiles later on.
In my example Felicia wins the first game and the evening overall. Rosi wins the second game and might be awarded a point. Veronica lost, since I always follow Hana in canon playthroughs.

 

[FRVN]

Hi!
The winner of the first round is the overall winner of the week.
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Kath spells it out: Winner of the first game has ALSO the additional benefit of sitting out the rest of the night. A point and bypassing the rest of the night´s "games".
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When making the screenshots, I made this one just for our resident butt lovers
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The thing is in your example Veronica, can catch up on the money side, if she wins the punishment game. But that hinges on your participation! If you follow Hana, the Carnation in the punishment game will ALWAYS loose, that you can see in the profiles later on.
In my example Felicia wins the first game and the evening overall. Rosi wins the second game and might be awarded a point. Veronica lost, since I always follow Hana in canon playthroughs.
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Right, but it specifically says the first game of the first exhibition, not the exhibition itself. All three girls won one of the three games of the exhibition, so there is no sole winner. In fact, the way it is set up, there can only be three winners, or two winners and a loser, the latter being impossible because the game always has the last Carnation earning enough money.

 

[Turret]

And here it is for the possible draw in week 2.