Avaron1974

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Nothing that Eugene has done can compare to Nadia's actions, will start and end with this one, club bathroom being a cum slut with multiple dicks in the glory hole scene. She is letting strangers cum in her but won't even give her boyfriend sex. He's a dumbass, she is a total whore.
Or you can go home and not do that scene at all.

In which case she gets an early night and he's still a total moron.

Apart from the rape scene all Nadia's stuff is optional, Eugene will be a moron regardless.
 
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Or you can go home and not do that scene at all.

In which case she gets an early night and he's still a total moron.

Apart from the rape scene all Nadia's stuff is optional, Eugene will be a moron regardless.
when was she raped? She knowingly let Bill fuck her on the terrace, she might have been a little coerced but calling that a rape scene is a little too much. If she wanted him off of her, she had her chance, she didn't stop him and told him to go ahead but to pull out. Then afterwards acted like it was ok bc her idiot BF got a blowy in the bathroom
 

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Nothing that Eugene has done can compare to Nadia's actions, will start and end with this one, club bathroom being a cum slut with multiple dicks in the glory hole scene. She is letting strangers cum in her but won't even give her boyfriend sex. He's a dumbass, she is a total whore.
OK...so let's compare like for like. You only give two so let's work with it.

Nadia:
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1) She had sex with several strangers in a gloryhole.
Worst outcomes:
She gets pregnant, she can use morning after pill or other medical procedures or she keeps the kid.
She get's an STD, She can get medical treatment, worst case Aids and she goes on Antivirals for the rest of her life.
Boyfriend finds out and they break up.
Counterpoint: You as the player can chose to not do it. She only did it, after she was drugged. At worst, she was a poor judge of Character.

2) She wont have sex with her Boyfriend.
Worst Outcome:
Are you not in a relationship? This happens to almost every relationship I know off, for different reasons
I don't know, he breaks up with her?
Counterpoint: She gave him a BJ in the last update and if he had a condom, he could have had sex.

Now Eugene:
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1) Agree to spy on the company he works for. That is so unethical and dangerous.
Worst Outcome:
He get's Killed due to snitching.
Nadia get's killed due to snitching.
He get caught and loses his job.
He get caught and ends up in jail.
He succeeds but then get's blackmailed.
He fails but then get's blackmailed
Counterpoint: He succeeds and get money to buy the flat...I'm not sure if that it's worth the risk, but sounds pretty dumb to me.

2) Agree to play poker with his rent money.
Worst outcome:
Loose money and get kicked out of apartment and they become homeless.

3) He shows up late for work. Get's a warning and the very next day shows up late for work again.
(Look, I've been late for work, but twice in a row ins inexcusable)
Worst Outcome: He loses his job, they do not have enough money just on Nadia's Salary.

There are many, many, many things to list for him. But this is my top 3.
To be sure, Nadia does some stupid shit too, but not close to his, and nothing that she does, endangers his life.
 
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when was she raped? She knowingly let Bill fuck her on the terrace, she might have been a little coerced but calling that a rape scene is a little too much. If she wanted him off of her, she had her chance, she didn't stop him and told him to go ahead but to pull out. Then afterwards acted like it was ok bc her idiot BF got a blowy in the bathroom
Dude, that was textbook rape. First of all, he drugged her... rape...then he forced her...rape.

I'm the first guy that will say that not all rape is equal and some is worse then other and due process for men being charged etc. etc. But that was clear cut rape.
 

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Dude, that was textbook rape. First of all, he drugged her... rape...then he forced her...rape.

I'm the first guy that will say that not all rape is equal and some is worse then other and due process for men being charged etc. etc. But that was clear cut rape.
Fine, it was rape. But who gets raped and then agrees to do a swap couples date and then later on agrees to go to a club with said rapist while BF is at work and can't go. She obviously didn't think it was rape
 

Avaron1974

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when was she raped? She knowingly let Bill fuck her on the terrace, she might have been a little coerced but calling that a rape scene is a little too much. If she wanted him off of her, she had her chance, she didn't stop him and told him to go ahead but to pull out. Then afterwards acted like it was ok bc her idiot BF got a blowy in the bathroom
She was drugged.
 

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OK...I'll bite...

Name me the 3 worst things she has done...and I will name you the three worst things he has done. Then we compare...Apples with apples.
U understand that the dev is who made the stupid bg in the MC right? Is not like the MC is dumb because yay, is for the plot, for give the stupid bitch GF the excuse on cheat him and dont regret for be a whore. This NTR is SO bad, because u FORCE the MC to be a real idiot for make the NTR, I played too many NTR games and this is one of the worst by far. Not mention that also is unavoidable, making the game so linear and force u to go to ntr for get the most scenes in the game.

The quality of the scenes is so damn good, but the BG in the most of the characters, the plot for excuse some of their acts and the force way for play the game, is so trashy. U can make a real good NTR and anyone complain about it (also people like me that really dont like the NTR, but its okay when this is only another option and not the whole game/plot) but u can see the difference from this with another good games with NTR like the tyrant or aWaM, and for sure, the characters in this game, are the most of them are so hateful..

Obv, this is my honest opinion, I'm not looking to change your opinion, its just that it bothers me that you think the MC is to blame for his girlfriend's behavior, and the friend of him.. well.. this son of a covid.. damn..
 

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why can't people put downloads in something thats straight forward like mega? one's that tell ya "you need to first download this and allow this', not gonna happen.
 
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U understand that the dev is who made the stupid bg in the MC right?
Yes, I understand. But that is the MC, for better or worse. The MC is what the Dev write him to be. And the Dev wrote an MC that is the worst kind of stupid.

Is not like the MC is dumb because yay, is for the plot, for give the stupid bitch GF the excuse on cheat him and dont regret for
Once again Nadia (Female MC) is what the dev wrote her to be. The dev wrote her to be stupid. Getting blackmailed by some pretty stupid and easily solvable situations. But that is how the dev wrote her, so we must conclude that she is dumb as well.
But Nadia have a choice to not do stupid things like not go into the gloryhole and not cheat with him on Bill. You can pretty much play Nadia to be pretty prudish.

This NTR is SO bad, because u FORCE the MC to be a real idiot for make the NTR
That is my point. The Dev wrote the MC to be an idiot, so he is an idiot. You can not pretend he is something else, because you want him to be something else. He is what the dev wrote him to be. A worse idiot then Nadia.

Nadia has some redeeming qualities, and you can decide not to do a whole lot of shit.

Eugene, is stupid and you can not decide to not be stupid. He is dumber then Nadia, because the dev wrote him to be dumber then Nadia.
 

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Yes, I understand. But that is the MC, for better or worse. The MC is what the Dev write him to be. And the Dev wrote an MC that is the worst kind of stupid.



Once again Nadia (Female MC) is what the dev wrote her to be. The dev wrote her to be stupid. Getting blackmailed by some pretty stupid and easily solvable situations. But that is how the dev wrote her, so we must conclude that she is dumb as well.
But Nadia have a choice to not do stupid things like not go into the gloryhole and not cheat with him on Bill. You can pretty much play Nadia to be pretty prudish.






That is my point. The Dev wrote the MC to be an idiot, so he is an idiot. You can not pretend he is something else, because you want him to be something else. He is what the dev wrote him to be. A worse idiot then Nadia.

Nadia has some redeeming qualities, and you can decide not to do a whole lot of shit.

Eugene, is stupid and you can not decide to not be stupid. He is dumber then Nadia, because the dev wrote him to be dumber then Nadia.


We agree on several points. One thing to clarify, the dev is far from knowing how to write a coherent bg on the characters and really give them strong and rational motives for their actions.

You are right that with the GF you can dodge many scenes of NTR, but what is the point of, let's say as an example a game that currently lasts 2 hours to leave it in 1 hour for dodging most of its content? This is one of the points that bothers me about this game precisely, that if you prefer to play than the GF is honest with his BF (although this is a total idiot) you CANNOT, since first of all, there are scenes that DO NOT they are optional, therefore you are already cheating on the couple (cheating is cheating, either a single kiss or letting yourself do an anal) without mentioning as I said, that you would be missing most of the current content of the game.

As I said, I am not a fan of the NTR, of course not, but as I said, as long as the NTR is WELL BUILT and is one MORE OPTION of the game, I see no reason to criticize it of course, the issue is, that this game, to despite not being bad per se, it has many flaws due to the bad decision and structure of the developer when creating both the plot and the characters, creating a totally irrational, forced and quite pessimistic context in my eyes.
 

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Fine, it was rape. But who gets raped and then agrees to do a swap couples date and then later on agrees to go to a club with said rapist while BF is at work and can't go. She obviously didn't think it was rape
I know, that was terrible writing... I have said so at the time and almost had me quit the game, but for better or worse, that was what he wrote.

At was still rape, but her next day guilt...cringe, but let's call it Stockholmm syndrome.

For me Bill is the worst guy in the story. If I could kill one guy...it would be him. My blood boiled when I played that.
He is worse then the Nerd. But Nadia's reaction the next day was terrible...I will give you that.

Still nothing compared to Eugene as mentioned above. He is terrible throughout the game no matter your choices.
 

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Yes, I understand. But that is the MC, for better or worse. The MC is what the Dev write him to be. And the Dev wrote an MC that is the worst kind of stupid.


Once again Nadia (Female MC) is what the dev wrote her to be. The dev wrote her to be stupid. Getting blackmailed by some pretty stupid and easily solvable situations. But that is how the dev wrote her, so we must conclude that she is dumb as well.
But Nadia have a choice to not do stupid things like not go into the gloryhole and not cheat with him on Bill. You can pretty much play Nadia to be pretty prudish.


That is my point. The Dev wrote the MC to be an idiot, so he is an idiot. You can not pretend he is something else, because you want him to be something else. He is what the dev wrote him to be. A worse idiot then Nadia.

Nadia has some redeeming qualities, and you can decide not to do a whole lot of shit.

Eugene, is stupid and you can not decide to not be stupid. He is dumber then Nadia, because the dev wrote him to be dumber then Nadia.
Not all your points are correct theres a difference between being dumb/stupid/idiot and unrealistic and that is what the Dev has done with both MC in this game I gave up playing this game since it's 2nd update of its release because of that rape scene. If your gonna make a game on more of the cartoony aspects fine I have no issues accepting crazy shit is gonna happen example Angelica Origins or Lily perfect examples both of those are cartoonish vs this that's more on the realistic side of the spectrum the boy gets so drunk that his guess rapes his girlfriend and she neither screams or call the cops after she just accepts it. I was completely done with this game after that scene.
 
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This game has many of the subjects that displease me, for example the nasty old man after only 3 images of the game, the stupid ads of black sheep and the porn movie it's ovious the taste of the dev. It's really a shame because I liked the girl a lot, but it's obvious that the game is designed so that everyone fuck the girlfriend and she becomes a real whore. So I will avoid this game.
I feel you bro. It's like you don't have the option to stop ntr from happening or they're won't be any content or story of how girlfriend
 
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2 problems with you comment.

1, not all here are boys. You're going to run into problems when you finish puberty if you can tell the difference.

2, you are here too.

Now I know you are going to deny downloading but you took the time to join the thread and browse through the forum which most do while the game is downloading.

Then you posted in a misguided effort to try and sound superior while using other people put downs.

Not only did you make it obvious you are playing the game you also don't have an original thought of your own.

I think it's super cute that you tried though. You are very "special".
No you are also incorrect their are plenty of people who download and hardly come to the comment section, hell I wasn't even aware of the comments until almost 6 months into me joining the site I came from porno-island.games]_Milfy 4 months in is when I learned of f95zone 6months in is when I learned of comments 1yr in is when I learned porno-island.games]_Milfy had comment section as well some people either don't pay attention or aren't logged in enough to realize and alot of others test game without even paying attention to the tags their just here to play a damn game not everyone here has invested so much time here or gives a damn and not everyone here is into all weird fetishes. I myself have been a victim to all my statements and I'm sure I'm not the 1 out of thousands. It wasn't after continuously getting flagged I started paying attention to the game tags to know what to avoid and if I decided to check it out anyways I'd keep my criticism to myself. Uncle VT had a field day with me due to my own ignorance I began to feel like I was being targeted and my freedom of speech was being violated that's how bad it got. Theirs a reason when a game gets an update you find so much people asking questions about the simplest things not reading the changelog, as I said some just hit download nothing else matters. Also not all games with rape tag the female actually gets raped thru choices it could be avoided but not here you know how much people complained about that rape scene I was here when game first game to f95 and yes it weird af that she did nothing after being raped I honestly don't know the rest of the story because I quit this game after that scene whenever it gets an update I check in the comments to see if the Dev decided to change that because theirs a few games scenes got replaced because to many complaints.
 
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Now if their wasn't a boyfriend being controlled by us the player I'm sure their would be less complaints not everyone is into being a beta or Fendom most games I play were I'm the Female MC I avoid everything with the males unless its impossible but the moment the Dev begins to force MC to get forced fuqd I just quit playing long as theirs lesbian action and minimal or none male scenes I dont mind playing hell with Lily in my playthrough she's never accepted another cock besides her husband. Same goes for any other titles like Lily, I just don't and won't feel comfortable playing as a Female Protagonist get fuqd by guys it's disgusting and I feel like sexuality is being played with game or not. Just yesterday while playing New Coral City 1.2 theirs a scene your forced into a creepish conversation with a bi sexual male and it's part of the story unavoidable do you know the levels of violation I felt no gay or bisexual male would do that to a straight male and no straight male would sit their and listen just because he works with your girlfriend or any other reason without immediately getting into a physical altercation those are fighting words period any straight male will say the same. I'll respect whatever you do as a person it's not my business but don't ever bring it up in conversations especially if it's being aimed towards me.:sick::mad::mad:I immediately complained to Dev glad he normally responds to messages. Yes I've never been to Mauds party I don't care for what I'm not going there if I can't get certain girls for avoiding it so be it.
 
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OK...I'll bite...

Name me the 3 worst things she has done...and I will name you the three worst things he has done. Then we compare...Apples with apples.
1. being silent when being raped and afterwards not doing anything against it if i am not mistaken she kinda liked it(for me thats enough reason to call her a cheater not whore just now)
2. then she sucked a i dont know may be 70 years old fart to death
3. then that scene where she fucked the open relation ship type couple and asked her bf to stay out of fun i mean wtf after her bf admit that he is guilty and beg for forgiveness
4. the gloryhole scene
5. keeping her worth of nothing ex bfs photos when she is in relation ship with another man its like she is not satisfied with her current relation ship already(even before the game starts) like she is not satisfied with her bf mentaly or physicaly(may be she wanted to keep that path open to go back to bill)
and you said all her actions are optional not all i think if i remember eccept for that glory hole scene even if they are optional they are lifeless like she wants to be a whore and player is forcefuly stoping her from being a whore(eg if i stop her from doing something) there should be inner thoughts like"i have a bf i cannot do this to him" or something like that but instead its like a skip button or even worse sometimes shes like "i like it but i have other things to do" and these are a whores inner thoughts.
i dont like eugene either and you too so i dont have to state him i will just say he is (unrealisticly dumb)poorly written cuz no one is as dumb he is.
 
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1. being silent when being raped and afterwards not doing anything against it if i am not mistaken she kinda liked it(for me thats enough reason to call her a cheater not whore just now)
2. then she sucked a i dont know may be 70 years old fart to death
3. then that scene where she fucked the open relation ship type couple and asked her bf to stay out of fun i mean wtf after her bf admit that he is guilty and beg for forgiveness
4. the gloryhole scene
5. keeping her worth of nothing ex bfs photos when she is in relation ship with another man its like she is not satisfied with her current relation ship already(even before the game starts) like she is not satisfied with her bf mentaly or physicaly(may be she wanted to keep that path open to go back to bill)
and you said all her actions are optional not all i think if i remember eccept for that glory hole scene even if they are optional they are lifeless like she wants to be a whore and player is forcefuly stoping her from being a whore(eg if i stop her from doing something) there should be inner thoughts like"i have a bf i cannot do this to him" or something like that but instead its like a skip button or even worse sometimes shes like "i like it but i have other things to do" and these are a whores inner thoughts.
i dont like eugene either and you too so i dont have to state him i will just say he is (unrealisticly dumb)poorly written cuz no one is as dumb he is.
We’ll put, Ive thought of her as a whore when she decided to be complicit with Bills rape, along with all the other stuff outside of choices. If you went all out with her, she’s a level above a streetwalker at best. I thought that was the path she would end up with, but her whore mother switched places to please the blackmailer instead. Hard to predict where the story ends up, but this doesn’t seem like a happy ending for anyone except the bad guys.
 

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I think that for the game to be (for me) really complete, variable the option that the male protagonist has the possibility to choose a dominant role ( or corrupt ) and the female a submissive role as alternative options.
 
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