paladin07

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That's bullshit though. I guess next we'll ban Dakota Skye from making porn. Doesn't matter what you look like, but what you are, and Ada is clearly 18 and a college student. Really wish developers would start standing up to Patreon a little harder, show some artistic integrity.
Artistic integrity? I think you need to get off your high horse. They're making porn games and Ada while the text says she's 18, clearly looks more like a 12 year old.
 

kongflcl

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Artistic integrity? I think you need to get off your high horse. They're making porn games and Ada while the text says she's 18 in the text clearly looks more like a 12 year old.
Its not a high horse, maybe you should respect their craft more? No matter what, they are creating and telling stories, and although there's a lot of trash, there's some really amazing writing and world building in some of these games. Censorship is damaging regardless.

It doesn't matter what she looks like, the facts of the writing are what matters. There are plenty of porn actresses that look underage and in this case we're talking about animations, not even real people. It's not illegal, its just them forcing their own moral code. Video games and animation should have no more restrictions than literature.

Feel how you will, I don't really care, but you can fuck off with that high horse bullshit. Sorry I have a high opinion of creativity no matter the medium. And whoever said porn can't be art? Especially when sexuality and violence are two of the most allegorical themes.
 

paladin07

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Its not a high horse, maybe you should respect their craft more? No matter what, they are creating and telling stories, and although there's a lot of trash, there's some really amazing writing and world building in some of these games. Censorship is damaging regardless.

It doesn't matter what she looks like, the facts of the writing are what matters. There are plenty of porn actresses that look underage and in this case we're talking about animations, not even real people. It's not illegal, its just them forcing their own moral code. Video games and animation should have no more restrictions than literature.

Feel how you will, I don't really care, but you can fuck off with that high horse bullshit. Sorry I have a high opinion of creativity no matter the medium. And whoever said porn can't be art? Especially when sexuality and violence are two of the most allegorical themes.
I don't think it's right to exclude small breasted (adult) actresses from Australian porn (because they might look like they are underage), but I think it is pretty clear between Ada's height and her breast size that she is modeled on a girl who is just starting to develop sexually (12-13 years old). She's a loli. Patreon's decision to exclude sex content involving her is not "beyond the pale."

I definitely agree that Parental Love and MSN (both of which I love) and DMD and Dreams of Desire, etc. are "art" and they do have a "story," but they are porn, too. While I would love to see all these creators find a home where they could get support through credit cards and not be limited by SJW/puritanical sensibilities (I would agree there is really no basis to prevent incest or loli or beastiality, so long as it is computer generated and not the degradation/exploitation/etc. of real people -and animals), these creators are playing in Patreon's playpen for now and I am pretty sure most of them have a limited ability to tell Patreon to "fuck off" for interfering with their artistic integrity. Porn has limited protection under free speech and of course Patreon is a private actor and it can restrict its content as it pleases. I was dictating that response on my phone and was in a bit of a rush, so I apologize if the tone of my message offended you. I wasn't trying to be offensive, only suggesting that howling about "artistic integrity" isn't going to get any of these Devs anywhere with patreon or with society at large.
 

Felicityskye

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Its not a high horse, maybe you should respect their craft more? No matter what, they are creating and telling stories, and although there's a lot of trash, there's some really amazing writing and world building in some of these games. Censorship is damaging regardless.

It doesn't matter what she looks like, the facts of the writing are what matters. There are plenty of porn actresses that look underage and in this case we're talking about animations, not even real people. It's not illegal, its just them forcing their own moral code. Video games and animation should have no more restrictions than literature.

Feel how you will, I don't really care, but you can fuck off with that high horse bullshit. Sorry I have a high opinion of creativity no matter the medium. And whoever said porn can't be art? Especially when sexuality and violence are two of the most allegorical themes.
I agree censorship is damaging but Patreon is still a company and they have the right to protect their brand weather we like it or not. They just don't want their services to fund those types of creations.

Think of it like this, I give you permission to live at my house because you needed a place to stay for awhile. You start masterbating around the house. If it was your own house I wouldn't care to stop you, but I wouldn't want your man juice on my kitchen table or on my favorite couch. I have every right to want to kick you out to stop you from doing that in my house, no? But that doesn't mean I'm going to stop you from doing your business away from my house.

Adult game devs are free to continue creating suggestive games, just outside the service of Patreon.
 

kongflcl

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I agree censorship is damaging but Patreon is still a company and they have the right to protect their brand weather we like it or not. They just don't want their services to fund those types of creations.

Think of it like this, I give you permission to live at my house because you needed a place to stay for awhile. You start masterbating around the house. If it was your own house I wouldn't care to stop you, but I wouldn't want your man juice on my kitchen table or on my favorite couch. I have every right to want to kick you out to stop you from doing that in my house, no? But that doesn't mean I'm going to stop you from doing your business away from my house.

Adult game devs are free to continue creating suggestive games, just outside the service of Patreon.
You're right, the thing is, Patreon championed itself as being a place for creators, and now, it turns out that it really isn't. That's the main thing that's so sickening to me and causing my panties to be in a bunch.

That, and the fact you find creations you really love only to find out changes are being forced upon them.
 

teq

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Wow, you are really rubbish at 'reading between the lines' huh? lol
it's a simple question, he removed her for patreon's terms but you have read something that prove that he is going to return her to the game. I don't know that's why i'm asking.
 

privitude

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Ada's being removed COMPLETELY? Fuuuuuuck. So gonna have to wait for a resolution to that fucking "who came on Ada" cliffhanger. And this on top of the sister being added, which to me just completely altered the dynamic of the game. It's just not the same at all now. Fuck I hate Patreon. I really wish someone would make a more adult-friendly version.
 

Shardoom

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Ada's being removed COMPLETELY? Fuuuuuuck. So gonna have to wait for a resolution to that fucking "who came on Ada" cliffhanger. And this on top of the sister being added, which to me just completely altered the dynamic of the game. It's just not the same at all now. Fuck I hate Patreon. I really wish someone would make a more adult-friendly version.
Really? *Facedesk*
Read some of the posts just before you wrote this...
 

privitude

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Really? *Facedesk*
Read some of the posts just before you wrote this...
Yes yes, mods. I get it. But there's a difference between changing the wording of a character from "daughter" to "room mate" or something of that sort, and completely removing her. That makes it simply modding her back in a whoooole other ball of wax. The options now are:

1. Luxee can continue to write the story as normal, and then just anything that has Ada in it. That's problematic because then her scenes have to be written in a way so that the story can make some semblensc of sense without her; thus limiting how much involvement she can have in said story.

2. Luxee can stop writing her in the story, and then create mods that add her content in. I feel like if this is done, she'll feel very wedged-in and not organic.

I don't see a way it can be done without things feeling really damned awkward.
 
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