DomWolf

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"Making sense" doesn't cut it—there are too many other things which don't make sense already. E.g. why does a potion brewed with a whole pumpkin, an entire cluster of spider eggs, and a full bucket of sacred water make only one dose of potion?

Who cares if they're not "main girls"? If anything, it makes even less sense to add a new repeatably brewable potion just for this one scene, if it's meant to be inconsequential side-content. The fact that it acts as a repellent doesn't matter either; it's not like it's that much of a power-up to avoid fighting bat breeders. It easily could've been a key item instead.

I just… does anyone find this fun? Constantly having to run around gathering a dozen ingredients for every fucking potion you need on the daily? Like biggus dickus for Freya (who is one of the main girls, and yet every fucking time you want to have sex with her, you need a potion): why not have a quest, and then you unlock the effect permanently via a spell? How about a talisman you can infuse with each potion, so you can use their effects at the cost of mana or something?

I was willing to forgive some of that stuff as a mechanic Tinkerer added early on when he was less experienced, but for Christ's sake he's still doing this shit? Jesus, it's like every game with content I like has to be some garbage RPGM grindfest made by a dev who jacks off to the delusion that he's making an "old-school RPG" or something, when in reality it's more like a sprawled-out clicker game, without the automation aspect.
At the end of the day it's a game. Harvesting & Crafting is a major part of this game. Tinkerer was pretty clear on his Patreon page he wanted to make a game that had porn, not porn with some game.

I myself, & I know some others on here, do in fact like this game & while I agree the ground can at times be tedious so is any RPG game with harvest/craft mechanics. How do you know this wont have some bigger role later down the line? Right now it let's you fuck Batgirls & u can gift it to Erevi for affection (with plans to make this available to all girls from what I understand).
 
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muschi26

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Harvesting & Crafting is a major part of this game.
It's demonstrably not, though. The only potions with any purpose are the biggus dickus potion and the enhanced fertility potion. The energy potion only exists to get you out of a jam. The health and antidote potions might as well be stacks of bandages. Likewise, the only food that matters is the moonflower cake; everything else is a glorified bandage. (And the amount of resources required to craft just one potion or one meal are insane compared to the usefulness of that meal or potion, which actually discourages you from crafting.) Moreover, you can't craft gear. You can't upgrade gear. You can't craft unique items. You can't craft consumable items for combat (e.g. bombs). Every time you need something made, it's handled by the blacksmith, the carpenter, or the tailor. You can't even craft crap to sell for profit: you just work the forge and magically get money.

The only way in which crafting is a major part of this game is how much time you'll be spending collecting ingredients to make the same three potions over and over again.

Tinkerer was pretty clear on his Patreon page he wanted to make a game that had porn, not porn with some game.
If this is true, why isn't there more game to the game? Why is combat so repetitive? Why is the enemy variety so low? Why isn't there more gear? Why aren't there more spells? Why aren't there more game mechanics aside from making potions? Why isn't the writing better? Why aren't there more meaningful character interactions? Why does every update feature 5,000+ renders for sex scenes, but only once in a while feature a new item (which usually doesn't do anything special either)?

This game, aside from the sex content, is bare-bones RPGM, and bare-bones RPGM to me isn't a game worth playing for its own sake, as an aside to the porn content.

Right now it let's you fuck Batgirls & u can gift it to Erevi for affection (with plans to make this available to all girls from what I understand).
You already have a million ways of getting affection back with the girls, including the vampire blood potion. What's the point of adding a new, less efficient way of doing something you could already do?

How do you know this wont have some bigger role later down the line?
If it is, that would require Tinkerer to start making some drastic fucking changes to his current way of doing things, or else it's would come into play only years from now. As is, I have no reason to believe any of this is anything other than tedium disguised as gameplay.

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TheBakonBitz

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I mean it's not THAT tedious & it makes sense. They attack MC so now we have a way to 1) not be attacked & 2) have some fun while were at it. These arnt main harem girls, you cant take any home. It's just for anyone who wants to go Bat fucking.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo!!!!!
We still have two empty cells in Erevi's tower. It's quite strange we got exactly two new bat breeder models but not the ability to capture them and give the bat breeder we already have some company.
 

EmperorGus

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We still have two empty cells in Erevi's tower. It's quite strange we got exactly two new bat breeder models but not the ability to capture them and give the bat breeder we already have some company.
That single bat breeder is more then enough to maintain a supply of eggs.
So why would you want to add more? What would you do with that many eggs?
It makes more sense for those cells to be kept available for a (future) different creature with a different resource.
 

EmperorGus

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uum.. sorry where's the way to cross broken bridge?? is there any secret doorsway?? View attachment 2201332
The vamps gave you a clue... they told you about a 'sally gate'.
But, if you didn't already know what a sally gate is, it's not a very helpful clue. :p
It's a small hidden door in the ravine below the bridge.
IIrc, the path down is to the left of the bridge.
 

lexxus

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A few things to jump in on.

First the door into the vampire castle is in the ravine to the far right of the screen behind some vines you need to clear.

Secondly about the conversation going on about the tedium in the game. Yes it's a mess off poor level design,flat game-play and unpolished elements but many of things have their reasoning not so much in game logic as programming logic, meaning these are just the only ways the dev could achieve the desired result within the limits of the engine. Other times its its hit or miss design rational.

with regards to the bat breeder stuff it should be noted that the patrons who vote on the content have a habit of coming back to the bat breeders as requested content so its not the dev's inclination so much as it is their obligation to add that stuff in.

Also you dont need to craft/collect the ingredients for the perfumes you can buy them! the nocturnal ones work as well well so if your going all in on crafting the lotus ones you're doing it wrong. Using the bought ones gets you into the content that will likekly be added to more in coming updates per the reason of content request voting going on by the patreon supporters I mentioned before.
 
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Collesart22

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you go under the bridge not over it, the path is to the left of your party, crossing infront of them to the top right corner, to a hidden door into the basement. IIRC
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ugh finaly lol.. buts still doesnt open.. i think still need many thing before ambush ... how to make shard ring and boltz anyway??
 

Stil996

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ugh finaly lol.. buts still doesnt open.. i think still need many thing before ambush ... how to make shard ring and boltz anyway??
use the anivil in the blacksmith shop to make the rings and bolts, don't forget to have crossbows made and equip the rings & crossbows on both you and oksana

save before this quest, it's one of the few places you can lose a fuck buddy
 

...bruh

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how do you repeat erevi's daughter's play? the walkthrough says you can but i dont get any prompt when i talk to her
 

Stil996

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how do you repeat erevi's daughter's play? the walkthrough says you can but i dont get any prompt when i talk to her
just talk to her in her room, both options to repeat the play and dungeon scenes appeared there for me, might be limited to specific times? or a cool down maybe?
 

...bruh

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just talk to her in her room, both options to repeat the play and dungeon scenes appeared there for me, might be limited to specific times? or a cool down maybe?
neither are showing up for me now. I used to have the dungeon one available. I'll try waiting some more, otherwise i think i bugged it somehow


Nevermind, i figured it out. it was because i forgot to add the decensor patch to this version
 

Stil996

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guys, i don't get it. why can't i go back into the room? is it a bug? I found the data crystal and wanted to go back to LOCO
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I don't understand what your problem is, your character is in line with the door on that screen shot. the path is in line with those tiles that intersect the crystal in the middle of the room. Are you saying that path is blocked, or the path into the darkness on the left?
Maybe it is to dark for you to see?
there is blockage to your left with doorways north and south, with the route back to the main room in line with your character
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I don't understand what your problem is, your character is in line with the door on that screen shot. the path is in line with those tiles that intersect the crystal in the middle of the room. Are you saying that path is blocked, or the path into the darkness on the left?
yep, the path in front of my char on the picture is blocked. that's what it's been all about the whole time, damn bug
 
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