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The Ogre thing you can kinda guess that he was tasting the waters so to speak about making sharing content again and what the public opinion would be. I will say it a million times, I HATE that Tinkerer let himself be bullied to take out content from the vision of the game he was making at the time, the amount of Vanilla crybabies (no offense meant) back a few years on his discord and patreon was crazy. Who knows from what I have asked him he still hopes to add optional content but I doubt it.
Dude you should mean your offense :p. Tinkerer is the captain of this ship, we are all just passengers (hell most of us aren't even passengers, we're stowaways), if he wants to take the story in a particular direction, us passengers need to either strap in for the ride or jump ship... whiners ain't welcome :p
 

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The Ogre thing you can kinda guess that he was tasting the waters so to speak about making sharing content again and what the public opinion would be. I will say it a million times, I HATE that Tinkerer let himself be bullied to take out content from the vision of the game he was making at the time, the amount of Vanilla crybabies (no offense meant) back a few years on his discord and patreon was crazy. Who knows from what I have asked him he still hopes to add optional content but I doubt it.
When you say the Ogre thing do u mean when MC shared Ziva with Grug the Giant or are u talking about when MC turns into a Troll? If it's the former I agree. If it's the later i have no idea what that has to do with sharing cos that WAS the MC just in a different form.

Either way the amount of people who have a problem with sharing, to the point they they winge & bully Tinkerer to changing his vision, is appealing. But Tinkerer can always do himself a small favor by making that kind of content optional. All sharing should have a "Share" option & a "Greedy" option so players can keep that autonomy. When it comes to RoD duplication, I would suggest Tinkerer ret-con the quest into a completly optional Side Quest, which unlocks new content with other girls after being completed if the player decides to do so. This means Tinkerer can keep his vision for the game & keep people happy (I'm not one to complain about sharing cos the game is good enough I'll accept it, but I do appreciate the option).
 

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Obviously most of what I wrote was more about how I would have liked for their stories to have developed rather than how it is, obviously a bunch of stuff would need to be retconned if Tinkerer were to take my thoughts wholesale, but I figure there are elements that could be enacted. for example Mia's Gran would be easy, she could come forward one day (triggered by "n" days of neglect) "I've been watching you, you lazy no good layabout, I've been silent so far but no longer! YOU WILL step up as a husband and a father OR I WILL make your life a living hell...", Mia could see this and blame herself, swearing to herself to be more proactive in your sex life. [easy peasy]

... BTW re Mia getting pissed... I ignore her most of the time so she is always pissed at me :p, but technically even when she wasn't pissed she tended to refuse sex unless I made dinner.
That could definetly work (but I feel people would definetly just start crying for GILF content & theres enough to get through already lol. I wouldnt touch that with a hundred yard pole at this point :ROFLMAO:) but I agree it is easily done the way u said.

If she is happy she dont need u yo keep making dinner. I never make meals & barley ever have issues with her sex drive ;)

and as for Beth, I disliked her for a reason :sleep: I'd recon her in a heartbeat without looking back, though Pigtails & Daisy Dukes might go a long way to making her much more agreeable if a makeover was all that happened with her. :p As it stands, the only interactions I have with her is the stuff the game forces you to do to progress the story.
I'm hoping her update will give more depth to Beth's character but for now she feels like an idea for a resource & a fetish (that flopped for this particular fanbase on the whole) & not much else... shame really.
 

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Dude you should mean your offense :p. Tinkerer is the captain of this ship, we are all just passengers (hell most of us aren't even passengers, we're stowaways), if he wants to take the story in a particular direction, us passengers need to either strap in for the ride or jump ship... whiners ain't welcome :p
While I fully agree with you're statement here it is the passengers who are essentially funding this cruise. But sometimes I feel Tinkerer let's himself be bullied into changing things for the whiney bitches who are far to entitled.
 

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While I fully agree with you're statement here it is the passengers who are essentially funding this cruise. But sometimes I feel Tinkerer let's himself be bullied into changing things for the whiney bitches who are far to entitled.
My basic opinion is that for every donor that jumps ship, 2 more will subscribe if Tinkerer follows his muse and ignores the whiners...
(The best stories come from the heart not commitees).

But I guess that's easy for me to say with no stakes in the game so... meh!
 
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My basic opinion is that for every donor that jumps ship, 2 more will subscribe if Tinkerer follows his muse and ignores the whiners...
(The best stories come from the heart not commitees).

But I guess that's easy for me to say with no stakes in the game so... meh!
Sharing content is very niche and that niche isn't what PQ occupies. The MC can shapeshift, that should be enough.
 

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Sharing content is very niche and that niche isn't what PQ occupies. The MC can shapeshift, that should be enough.
Random comment!!.... what are you talking about? and what does it have to do to the post you are replying to?
  1. I don't think sharing is as niche as certain snowflakes bitch about, Gangbang is a substantial genre in most porn site, as is threesome, orgy... and that's before you even venture down the NTR/Cuck routes
  2. Niche markets tend to have extremely loyal followers who are more likely to pay for hard to find content.
  3. I never commented about Sharing one way or the other in the conversation you are replying too
The post you responded is about Creators controlling their own creations, their choices matter, not random followers.
 

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Sharing content is very niche and that niche isn't what PQ occupies. The MC can shapeshift, that should be enough.
Wether it is niche or not isnt the problem. It's all the people getting pissy about it that winds me up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate that sharing is now completly optional but Tinkerer shouldnt stop doing those scenes just cos people cant take it. As long as there is a no share option ot should be fine (and if people still complain that it exists then they can fuck off with there insecurities).

Sadly creators like Tinkerer get bullied by the loud mouthed, insecure masses who cant handle some pixels getting ut from someone else, even if that someone is a duplicated extension of the MC. It's pretty sad & pathetic. If I dont like something I just dont play it, i dont go out my way to force the game into what I want.
 

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Wether it is niche or not isnt the problem. It's all the people getting pissy about it that winds me up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate that sharing is now completly optional but Tinkerer shouldnt stop doing those scenes just cos people cant take it. As long as there is a no share option ot should be fine (and if people still complain that it exists then they can fuck off with there insecurities).

Sadly creators like Tinkerer get bullied by the loud mouthed, insecure masses who cant handle some pixels getting ut from someone else, even if that someone is a duplicated extension of the MC. It's pretty sad & pathetic. If I dont like something I just dont play it, i dont go out my way to force the game into what I want.
is in my mind one of the task i need to look out for on the discord, to stop the ''hype trains'' of suggestions or idea that start to grow. Downside is i cant do the same on patreon so that is for tinkerer to stand strong in his own boots for.

Dont think some scenes are a issue, only when that is the only option. Tinkerer need his freedom to make non vanilla stuff(lets call it that) but he needs to keep in mind that some will ''riot'' if ther isnt a other path to pick from.
 

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Wether it is niche or not isnt the problem. It's all the people getting pissy about it that winds me up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate that sharing is now completly optional but Tinkerer shouldnt stop doing those scenes just cos people cant take it. As long as there is a no share option ot should be fine (and if people still complain that it exists then they can fuck off with there insecurities).

Sadly creators like Tinkerer get bullied by the loud mouthed, insecure masses who cant handle some pixels getting ut from someone else, even if that someone is a duplicated extension of the MC. It's pretty sad & pathetic. If I dont like something I just dont play it, i dont go out my way to force the game into what I want.
I don't see how people expressing their opinion is bad. You can say it's altering Tinkerer's original vision, sure, but at the end of the day you're saying people being able to skip content they don't want is a bad thing. I think keeping it optional is the perfect solution and don't see why that should be changed. He can write his more extreme stuff and players who dislike it can just skip it.
 

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Wether it is niche or not isnt the problem. It's all the people getting pissy about it that winds me up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate that sharing is now completly optional but Tinkerer shouldnt stop doing those scenes just cos people cant take it. As long as there is a no share option ot should be fine (and if people still complain that it exists then they can fuck off with there insecurities).

Sadly creators like Tinkerer get bullied by the loud mouthed, insecure masses who cant handle some pixels getting ut from someone else, even if that someone is a duplicated extension of the MC. It's pretty sad & pathetic. If I dont like something I just dont play it, i dont go out my way to force the game into what I want.
AMEN to that brother. You know what pisses me off more is what could have been little tidbits of dialogue that could have turned on some good sharing content. When Liandra got captured (big maybe), Erevi mentioning summons responds to master wishes and desires, in her case a big ogre. The mass on the Temple to pay for the renovations. Minotaur content (maybe). SIGH sorry for letting my obvious like of the fetish shows but RPG that have liberty of choice on the content you wanna watch are the best, comes to mind "a struggle with sin" not good models but dumped more than 200 hours just seeing everything it has to offer game & NSFW wise. Despite this disappointing desicion I still pay the 5$ bucks monthly and If nothing extreme happens, will continue to do so. Have a good day gentlemen
 
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I don't see how people expressing their opinion is bad. You can say it's altering Tinkerer's original vision, sure, but at the end of the day you're saying people being able to skip content they don't want is a bad thing. I think keeping it optional is the perfect solution and don't see why that should be changed. He can write his more extreme stuff and players who dislike it can just skip it.
No I'm not saying opinions are bad. But there are people who have gotten belligerent & demanding over the mere existence of some of this content. Some of these people dont want it at all or get overly mad when there is some content they dont enjoy. There is a difference between giving you're opinion to a creator for them to hear, consider & alter, & bullying a creator into doing what you want or making them feel they cant explore that kind of thing in the future.

Compare the beginning of this project to now & you'll notice that the stories for each girl are far tamer now, & even when Tinkerer tries to spice things up it backfires. In the beginning the Werewolf scene was created as a bit of humour at the players expense, I havent seen anything like that (not even as an option) since the backlash that followed. RoD double was a fu scene IMO & kept things between MC, MC & Erevi but people couldnt even seem to share with themself! So the likelihood of Duplicate content has dropped.

If the majority of people were constructive with the criticisms then mabey Tinkerer would be more confident in adding the scenes & perhaps more mindful of choice when doing so. But people crying, shitting the bed & rage quitting just makes creators apprehensive about things they want to include.
 
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I don't see how people expressing their opinion is bad. You can say it's altering Tinkerer's original vision, sure, but at the end of the day you're saying people being able to skip content they don't want is a bad thing. I think keeping it optional is the perfect solution and don't see why that should be changed. He can write his more extreme stuff and players who dislike it can just skip it.
not to belabor the points DomWolf makes above
Nobody is saying expressing opinions is bad, this thread is full of opinions and alternate ideas. But there is a huge difference between offering an opinion and forcing one. Too many times people spam the forums with hate speech trying to bully the Dev into tailoring the project to them, spouting statistics like homogenized crap is desirable. Creators work best when they are creating something they personally love, I believe it really shines through, just like I feel it's easy to spot the projects ruined when creators try to cater to kinks that they don't really understand.
BTW As far as I'm aware Tinkerer is happy to make kinks optional, the problem is how few people are willing to ask politely.
 

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BTW As far as I'm aware Tinkerer is happy to make kinks optional, the problem is how few people are willing to ask politely.
I will say that making the RoD quest a Main was a bit of a misfire by Tinkerer. That should be a Side Quest, which unlocks RoD scenes with other girls. So that way players can decide if they want to unlock it or not. Heck mabey even have the option to put the RoD back where we found it so those players dont accidentally complete the quest & get but hurt.
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I will say that making the RoD quest a Main was a bit of a misfire by Tinkerer. That should be a Side Quest, which unlocks RoD scenes with other girls. So that way players can decide if they want to unlock it or not. Heck mabey even have the option to put the RoD back where we found it so those players dont accidentally complete the quest & get but hurt.
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erm.... the RoD is already a side quest, you have to actually return to LOCO and ask about it to even retrieve it, after that you need to ask Erevi about the rod, only then the scene becomes available.
 

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erm.... the RoD is already a side quest, you have to actually return to LOCO and ask about it to even retrieve it, after that you need to ask Erevi about the rod, only then the scene becomes available.
I could have sworn it's in the Main Quest list... I'll double check after work 2night
 
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