Evangelion-01

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like I said you can gather a total of 11 votes, but the quest will pretty much stop you from doing so after getting the 10th vote
Tailor Shop, Blacksmith, Miller, Farmer, Backer, Generalshop, Stable, Carpenter, Victoria, Gwyneth, inn owner
 

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like I said you can gather a total of 11 votes, but the quest will pretty much stop you from doing so after getting the 10th vote
Tailor Shop, Blacksmith, Miller, Farmer, Backer, Generalshop, Stable, Carpenter, Victoria, Gwyneth, inn owner
and who is miller
 

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...speak to her? it'll be in her favor that you win as she gives you that Quest, so you can expect her to support you
...The guy infront of the windmill that had you deal with his snake investation
 

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Basically you suggest remaking the game into something else. The whole idea of the game is that a nobody - a landless peasant teenager - becomes somebody by combining hard work, speed, basic wit and brute force. He encounters domineering females who at first exercise power over him but are subdued by sex and impregnation. You'd make the game into a basic bitch RPG with boring combat.
Well, if you gonna be a hero with fame and fortune you must be someone. There are games that you begin as nobody, Grandia for example, and with a good story and effort, you save the world. Here, your character is nobody and for some reason gets laid a lot, even making many families, by the power of grinding. Grinding is the first activity you do in this game (the farm) and you will still do this a lot with the combat system. It's games like this that give bad fame for the RPG Maker combat system. One of the things you will do over and over is to kill the same goblins in the same place to get the money you need to proceed. But fine, you like grinding for some half-ass CGs together a just a few of the more generic text lines on Earth, please, enjoy this game. Clearly some people never played good games before.
 

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...speak to her? it'll be in her favor that you win as she gives you that Quest, so you can expect her to support you
...The guy infront of the windmill that had you deal with his snake investation
dude thanks for helping but where can i find victoria game doesnt allow me to enter mayor's house...
 

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Well, if you gonna be a hero with fame and fortune you must be someone. There are games that you begin as nobody, Grandia for example, and with a good story and effort, you save the world. Here, your character is nobody and for some reason gets laid a lot, even making many families, by the power of grinding. Grinding is the first activity you do in this game (the farm) and you will still do this a lot with the combat system. It's games like this that give bad fame for the RPG Maker combat system. One of the things you will do over and over is to kill the same goblins in the same place to get the money you need to proceed. But fine, you like grinding for some half-ass CGs together a just a few of the more generic text lines on Earth, please, enjoy this game. Clearly some people never played good games before.
...clearly YOU haven't played this game longer than an hour... otherwise you'd know that there are plenty other ways to gain money... even more with the last Update... but suit yourself
 

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Well, if you gonna be a hero with fame and fortune you must be someone. There are games that you begin as nobody, Grandia for example, and with a good story and effort, you save the world. Here, your character is nobody and for some reason gets laid a lot, even making many families, by the power of grinding. Grinding is the first activity you do in this game (the farm) and you will still do this a lot with the combat system. It's games like this that give bad fame for the RPG Maker combat system. One of the things you will do over and over is to kill the same goblins in the same place to get the money you need to proceed. But fine, you like grinding for some half-ass CGs together a just a few of the more generic text lines on Earth, please, enjoy this game. Clearly some people never played good games before.
You really have to see where you want the focus of your game to be. If you'd want a perfect RPG maker game that's meant to be played for the gameplay, you may be right. But that's not what this is about, at least not in the first place.

I actually really like the compromise we have here and I'd say Tinkerer is pretty much on point with his balance. There are a few classical RPG elements and a little bit of combat, yet there's enough porn/sex/etc. around to keep things spicy, while the grind isn't actually that bad and basically stops completely at some point. And no, I don't want to bother with tiers, skills, an abundance of enemies, combat tactics, huge dungeons, etc. and I'm sure most people here actually see it that way, too.

But again, that's down to taste and nothing I'd say is objectively good or bad. If I'd want to play a real game (you mentioned Grandia, Grandia II was one of my favourite games back then, too), I'd play something like that.
 

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...clearly YOU haven't played this game longer than an hour... otherwise you'd know that there are plenty other ways to gain money... even more with the last Update... but suit yourself
I played until the end (having to impregnate everybody since I didn't get even a hint of a main storyline). I'm one of the patience guys who actually try to see what the came to do. And yes, I had some fun with the scenes, but that probably a result of the Skinner Box effect.

But anyway, if you like this pile of grinding, have fun. I'll come back in a year if it's still the same effortless pile of grinding, I'll drop it for good. I have a big list of things to play anyway.
 
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You really have to see where you want the focus of your game to be. If you'd want a perfect RPG maker game that's meant to be played for the gameplay, you may be right. But that's not what this is about, at least not in the first place.

I actually really like the compromise we have here and I'd say Tinkerer is pretty much on point with his balance. There are a few classical RPG elements and a little bit of combat, yet there's enough porn/sex/etc. around to keep things spicy, while the grind isn't actually that bad and basically stops completely at some point. And no, I don't want to bother with tiers, skills, an abundance of enemies, combat tactics, huge dungeons, etc. and I'm sure most people here actually see it that way, too.

But again, that's down to taste and nothing I'd say is objectively good or bad. If I'd want to play a real game (you mentioned Grandia, Grandia II was one of my favourite games back then, too), I'd play something like that.
There is no such thing as perfect. Tell me, do you like animated cutscenes in the recent games? I do, they tell the story far better than it was possible without them. But if I want to see cutscenes shouldn't I go see a movie? Wrong. A game should be the best it can be on what it is implementing. Grandia, what was the focus? Everything. The story was nice, the graphics were nice, the characters were charismatic, and the combat is the best J-RPGs ever created. But many will say: "that's a normal game, not a hentai game". Fine, let's take The Last Sovereign by Sierra Lee. It's RPG Maker game with an incredible story, a very surprising plot twist at the beginning, charismatic characters, clear objective to drive you forward, a little management that alone could make you think for hours, and while the combat isn't its primary focus, it had some thought when it was designed. No griding, no sudden deaths, many options of things to do, sex scenes by a great writer that can even be considered good despite not having CGs, and there are plenty of those. When you try to compare this game to that, it's absurd. There is nothing objectively terrible in Sierra Lee game, but here the grinding is terrible, the story is terrible, the combat is barebone, the characters are terrible. And the sex-scenes themselves (not the process to acquire them, which is the focus of some other games), where most efforts were put at, are too short and the CGs have weak to average graphics.

And I saw everything because I'm one of those who actually wait a little more to drop a game, I beat Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 and it takes hours for the game to begin in those two. (Great games, but terrible beginning)

Again, if you like it, have fun. But I've things far better.
 

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But that's what I mean with balance. As soon as it comes to erotic/hentai games you'll have to find a balance between gameplay and "porn" and there's a whole scale to work with. Some games around here are basically porn replacements (stuff like the twist, holiday island, etc.) and others are basically pure games/RPGs with some erotic added to them (I'd take the last sovereign as an example). Your taste clearly seems to be at the very end of the latter spectrum, while most people likely fall somewhere in between and while there are even quite a few who really only want the sexual parts and couldn't bother about anything else - those who ask about finished save games and skip everything else anyway.

In my opinion there's no way around compromise. If you want to keep a certain erotic tension/momentum in the game, you'll have to sacrifice other elements to some degree. I honestly don't want combat, skills, equipment, management, charcter arcs, etc. above a very basic level, because it distracts from the erotic parts of the game. Of course you need some of it to maintain the illusion and I think Tinkerer is pretty good at that. For me it's just a completely different genere with a very different focus. That said, of course Tinkerer could improve the game and there are quite a few things I'd do different, but that's another topic.

And yes, I really don't want to judge your taste and if you don't like it, there's little that can be done.
 
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There is no such thing as perfect. Tell me, do you like animated cutscenes in the recent games? I do, they tell the story far better than it was possible without them. But if I want to see cutscenes shouldn't I go see a movie? Wrong. A game should be the best it can be on what it is implementing. Grandia, what was the focus? Everything. The story was nice, the graphics were nice, the characters were charismatic, and the combat is the best J-RPGs ever created. But many will say: "that's a normal game, not a hentai game". Fine, let's take The Last Sovereign by Sierra Lee. It's RPG Maker game with an incredible story, a very surprising plot twist at the beginning, charismatic characters, clear objective to drive you forward, a little management that alone could make you think for hours, and while the combat isn't its primary focus, it had some thought when it was designed. No griding, no sudden deaths, many options of things to do, sex scenes by a great writer that can even be considered good despite not having CGs, and there are plenty of those. When you try to compare this game to that, it's absurd. There is nothing objectively terrible in Sierra Lee game, but here the grinding is terrible, the story is terrible, the combat is barebone, the characters are terrible. And the sex-scenes themselves (not the process to acquire them, which is the focus of some other games), where most efforts were put at, are too short and the CGs have weak to average graphics.

And I saw everything because I'm one of those who actually wait a little more to drop a game, I beat Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 and it takes hours for the game to begin in those two. (Great games, but terrible beginning)

Again, if you like it, have fun. But I've things far better.
I can see where you are comeing from and I am also a Fan of "The last Souvereign"... but this game is pretty much a paradoy to any avarage/normal RPGM game... you are not playing an overpowered Hero out to save the world.
You are a later son of a farmer running away from home to start a future with big dreams... and you get beaten around so long until you finally find your place in this society... the "character arcs" can be considered a medievil Dating Sim sometimes.
The player seems to be the sub in most relationships until he proves himself and gets closer to an equal... you are still belittled most of the time, but dureing H you sometimes even turn the tables in the domination plays.
The parody aspect of this game is what sets this apart from your avarage Hero Stories and it's the most fun about this.
Without any big goals you don't travel the world but only keep visiting different locations in a single area on the worldmap, you are not exploreing dungeons or go for boss fights but charm and seduce as many wombs (before seeding them) as you can.
 
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